Shoulders??

[mike424]

Hey, does anybody recommend mass building exercises for shoulders??

i need a little advice

[BONE.CRUSHER]

if you want to build size stick to the 8-12 rep range for your shoulder exercises.

some good exercises for overall shoulders are arnold press and behind the neck press. And dont forget to work your rear delt ! good luck

[-DedicateD-]

if you want to build size stick to the 8-12 rep range for your shoulder exercises.

some good exercises for overall shoulders are arnold press and behind the neck press. And dont forget to work your rear delt ! good luck

i think straight bb and db work better for size then arnold presses

behind the neck presses unless down with light weight and extremely controlled are a recipe for disaster in my opinion

i stick with reps anywhere between 4-15

[BuiltForThis]

Agreed. Dumbbell and Barbell presses work best for me. As far as my rep range I go with anything between 12 - 4. I don't really do behind the neck too much because of the strain is puts on my rotator cuff.

[TR'05]

Overhead presses.
Power Clean.
Power Snatch.
DE High Pulls.

[BONE.CRUSHER]

i think straight bb and db work better for size then arnold presses

behind the neck presses unless down with light weight and extremely controlled are a recipe for disaster in my opinion

i stick with reps anywhere between 4-15

thats true for most people . but i find the arnold press and behind the neck presses work best for me for overall development , but the regular military presses work best just for anterior development.

your rep range is too big. Under 6 and you're training for strength and over 13 you're training for endurance.

[rx8rone]

i love arnold presses in my opinion they work the best

[Jfew44]

I like to rotate Arnold Press with regular Dumbell Press every other workout.

[barondumonde]

i think straight bb and db work better for size then arnold presses

behind the neck presses unless down with light weight and extremely controlled are a recipe for disaster in my opinion

i stick with reps anywhere between 4-15

Everyone's shoulder capsule is a little bit different, and some people are more prone to injuries than others, especially when the joint is in the compromised position it's in when doing behind the neck presses.

Generally, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM BEHIND THE NECK PRESSES. I did find them more effective at bringing mass to the shoulders, but they have a MUCH higher risk of injury. It's simply NOT worth it.

Do you want big, strong shoulders? Grab an olympic bar, clean it up, and start doing standing reps of front presses. When you get fatigued after the first few reps, start using your legs to press the bar up. Explode that thing up as fast as you can. MAX INTENSITY. Keep going until you can't get another rep up even with your legs. Then, DO A DROP SET! Start the whole process again. As many as you do with perfect form, then start using your legs. When you can't do any more reps, DO ANOTHER DROP SET!

Keep this up until you can't lift a 5 pound dumbbell up and I promise you, YOUR SHOULDERS WILL GROW.

[hvyliftr4]

I cant do behind the neck , I sometimes feel a slight pinch and stop.

[ggoyal]

everybody is different, you just have to see what works for you

[zygleth]

It really depends on the rest of your training regiment. If you are a heavy bench presser you can stay away from front delt work as you are working them hard on bench day.
One thing you can try which goes along with the post above is to grab a couple manageable dumbells and do:
-front raises
-side laterals
-bent over for rear
-upright rows
-Arnold presses

Do these one after another 8-10 reps each / 3 sets to failure and your shoulders will be trashed, in a good way.

[STRONGMAN91]

i like to stick to shoulder presses(seated, if front, and behind neck)...5-6 reps, no more, i never train shoulders no more than 6 reps(unless doing cable lateral raises)

[GT2]

1. clean and press
2. rear lateral raises
3. military press

Stick to those, go heavy for 4-6 reps, and you will see a huge change in your shoulder size. I know I did.

[rockinred]

I agree with all the pressing comments as that is my baseline...

don't forget upright rows... my shoulders and traps blow up doing those... been doing them since I was a young kid... it will put some seperation in there...

[jthepitlover]

Some people do much better with dumbells then the strait bars. If you have any impingements or joint pain, the strait bar is much more likely to exacrbate that then dumbells will simply because lifting a rigid long bar doesn't allow for as much motion in the joint as pressing two independent weights. Baron's advice on the set/ reps is excellent and I think you can do it with either dums or strait.

[beefjerky]

Behind the neck anything is dangerous, unless you're squatting. That puts a hard stretch on the shoulder capsule and RC. It seems like a fairly unnatural movement overall as well. Think about how often humans lift a weight vertically from behind the head.
As for upright rows, they too are bad for the shoulders. They impinge the RC as well.

I'm a Dumbell press on an high degree incline bench sorta guy.