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    Cutting Workout Plan - Critique Request

    I am building my workout routine for my summer cutter and I was hoping you guys could stop in and critique it as necessary. I already have set up my diet plan which can be found in this post.

    The workout plan below is going to work as an adapted form of the slingshot training system. The routine below is going to be used on my "reload" phase, for two weeks, then every third week I am going to cut down the number of sets in half for one week in my "deload" phase. I hope to have this decrease the chance of overtraining, but I will listen to my body and deload for 2 weeks if necessary if I'm showing signs of burn out.

    My stats are not impressive for my workout experience of 5 years, but I was once at 205 @ 11% bf, but have since had a few setbacks (I am thinking of writing an article about it).



    My stats are:

    Weight: 187lbs
    Height: 6"
    Age: 21
    BF: ~17%

    Daily Macronutrient Stats:

    Protein: 55% (349.5g)
    Carbs: 25% (157.6g)
    Fats: 20% (56.2g)

    Calories: 2,534 (~500 Cal deficit)



    Supplements:

    - Avant Research - Napalm (clen powder and caffeine added after the first 1-2 weeks, applied to abs and love handles)
    - Primordial Performance - Sustain Alpha, Endoamp, Toco-8
    - BSN Cell Mass (creatine) [Fat:0.0g, Carb:7.0g (no-sugar), Protein:0.0g]
    - Fish Oil supplement (0mega 3/6/9) [Fat:4.0g, Carb:0.0g, Protein:0.0g]
    - AOR: Ortho-Core Multivitamin (nutrient facts)
    - 5g Glutamine - (before empty stomach cardio)
    - CLA




    Cutting Workout Plan (2 weeks, then 1 week with half the amount of sets)


    Monday: AM Cardio
    Tuesday: Chest / Triceps
    Wednesday: AM Cardio
    Thursday: Biceps / Forearms / Back
    Friday: AM Cardio
    Saturday:Shoulders / Traps / Legs / Abs
    Sunday: Rest Day



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    Monday

    AM: Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)

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    Tuesday - Chest / Triceps

    Chest:

    Barbell Incline Press: 4-8 reps, 4-6 reps (heavy), 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 12-15 reps
    Barbell Decline Press: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Dumbell incline flys: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Triceps:

    Ez bar Skullcrushers: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Tricep Rope Pushdowns, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Cardio: 25min Low Intensity Cardio

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    Wednesday

    Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)

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    Thursday - Biceps / Forearms / Back

    Back:

    Dead-Lifts: 4-8 reps (2 short of failure), 4-6 reps (heavy set), 8-10, 12-15
    Seated Rows: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Medium Grip Pull-Ups: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Cable Lat Pulldown: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Biceps:

    Seated Dumbell Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Seated Hammer Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Preacher Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Forearms:

    Standing Wrist Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Reverse Wrist Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Cardio: 25min Low Intensity Cardio

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    Friday

    Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)

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    Saturday - Shoulders / Traps / Legs / Abs

    Shoulders

    Seated Dumbbell Presses: 4-8 reps (2 short of failure), 4-6 reps (heavy), 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 12-15 reps
    Dumbbell Lateral Raises: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Reverse Cable Flyes: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Traps

    Seated Dumbbell Shrugs: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Smith Machine Barbell Shrugs (in front): 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Smith Machine Barbell Shrugs (behind): 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Legs - Calves

    Standing Calf Raise: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Seated Calf Raise: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Legs - Quads

    Barbell Squats: 4-8 reps (2 short of failure), 4-6 reps (heavy), 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 12-15 reps
    Leg Extensions: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Legs - Hamstrings

    Lying Leg Curl: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps
    Seated Leg Curls: 8-10 reps, 8-10 reps

    Abs -

    Weighted Crunches: 15-30 reps, 10-12 reps, 10-12 reps, 15-30 reps

    (No cardio)

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    Sunday - Rest Day

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    Thanks guys, let me know what you think.
    Last edited by SocraticMind; 04-20-2009 at 10:27 PM. Reason: formatting, and changed a few small details

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocraticMind View Post
    I am building my workout routine for my summer cutter and I was hoping you guys could stop in and critique it as necessary. I already have set up my diet plan which can be found in this post.

    The workout plan below is going to work as an adapted form of the slingshot training system. The routine below is going to be used on my "reload" phase, for two weeks, then every third week I am going to cut down the number of sets in half for one week in my "deload" phase. I hope to have this decrease the chance of overtraining, but I will listen to my body and deload for 2 weeks if necessary if I'm showing signs of burn out.

    My stats are not impressive for my workout experience of 5 years, but I was once at 205 @ 11% bf, but have since had a few setbacks (I am thinking of writing an article about it).



    My stats are:

    Weight: 187lbs
    Height: 6"
    Age: 21
    BF: ~17%

    Daily Macronutrient Stats:

    Protein: 55% (349.5g)
    Carbs: 25% (157.6g)
    Fats: 20% (56.2g)

    Calories: 2,534 (~500 Cal deficit)



    Supplements:

    - Avant Research - Napalm (clen powder and caffeine added after the first 1-2 weeks, applied to abs and love handles)
    - Primordial Performance - Sustain Alpha, Endoamp, Toco-8
    - BSN Cell Mass (creatine) [Fat:0.0g, Carb:7.0g (no-sugar), Protein:0.0g]
    - Fish Oil supplement (0mega 3/6/9) [Fat:4.0g, Carb:0.0g, Protein:0.0g]
    - AOR: Ortho-Core Multivitamin (nutrient facts)
    - 5g Glutamine - (before empty stomach cardio)
    - CLA




    Cutting Workout Plan (2 weeks, then 1 week with half the amount of sets)


    Monday: AM Cardio
    Tuesday: Chest / Tricepsnot a fan because tris will be fatigued
    Wednesday: AM Cardio
    Thursday: Biceps / Forearms / Backsame concept with bis and back, not a fan
    Friday: AM Cardio
    Saturday:Shoulders / Traps / Legs / Absi would use a 4-day split rather than a 3 day/week workout
    Sunday: Rest Day


    Monday

    AM: Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)



    Tuesday - Chest / Triceps

    Chest:

    Barbell Incline Press
    PREP SET: (4-8 reps taken 2 reps shy of failure)
    1st work: set- 4-6 reps (heavy set)4 reps to the max will be great for white twitch fibers aka strength
    2nd set: 8-10 repsim not a fan of 8-10 reps, i stay either 4-6 for strength, and to confuse muscles 12-15 to maximize red fast twitch.. these are the rep ranges that maximize those muscle fibers
    3rd set: 8-10 reps
    4th set: 12-15 reps do 12 to your max here to hit red fast twitch fibers

    Barbell Decline Press
    1st set: 8-10 reps
    2nd set: 8-10 reps

    Dumbell incline flys
    1st set: 8-10 reps
    2nd set: 8-10 reps

    total sets chest looks good
    Triceps:

    Ez bar Skullcrushersi built tendonitis form this exercise
    1st set: 8-10 reps
    2nd set: 8-10 reps
    3rd set: 8-10 reps
    4th set: 8-10 reps

    Tricep Rope Pushdowns
    1st set: 8-10 reps
    2nd set: 8-10 reps
    3rd set: 8-10 reps
    4th set: 8-10 reps

    i would chop it down to 6 sets for tris and see how you progress

    Cardio: 15min Medium-Intensity Cardio

    i would up the cardio to 20-30.. low intensity of course

    Wednesday

    Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)



    Thursday - Biceps / Forearms / Back

    Back:

    dead-lifts
    PREP SET- 4-8 reps (2 reps short of failure)
    1st set set 4-6 reps (heavy set)
    2nd set 8-10
    3rd set 12-15

    Seated Rows
    1st set 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    medium grip pull-up
    1st set 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Cable Lat Pulldown
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    this is good, you can also add 1 or 2 sets for back.. not lower back

    Biceps:

    Seated dumbell curls
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set-8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Seated hammer Curls
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set-8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Preacher Curls
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set-8-10 reps

    too many sets for biceps IMO, try 5-6
    Forearms:

    standing wrist curls
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    reverse wrist curls
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    try 4 total sets

    15min Medium-Intensity Cardio


    up cardio to 20-30
    Friday

    Cardio - 45 mins (morning empty stomach, low intensity)



    Saturday - Shoulders / Traps / Legs / Abs

    Shoulders

    seated dumbbell presses
    PREP SET- 4-8 reps (2 reps short of failure)
    1st set 4-6 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    4th set 12-15 reps

    dumbbell lateral raises
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Reverse cable flyes
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    too many sets for delts IMO

    Traps

    Seated dumbbell shrugs
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps


    Smith Machine Barbell Shrugs (in front)
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps

    Smith Machine Barbell Shrugs (behind)
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps

    too many sets for shrugs IMO
    Legs - Calves

    Standing calf raise
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Seated calf raise
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    calves and abs heal quicker than any other, try 3-4 here and add them another day.. 4 day split would be a better routine IMO

    Legs - Quads

    Barbell squats
    PREP SET- 4-8 reps (2 reps shy of failure)
    1st set 4-6 reps (heavy set) to failure
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    4th set 8-10 reps
    5th set 12-15 reps


    Leg extensions
    1st set- 8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps
    good

    Legs - Hamstrings


    Lying leg curl
    1st set-8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    3rd set 8-10 reps

    Seated leg curls
    1st set-8-10 reps
    2nd set 8-10 reps
    good

    Abs - Weighted Crunches

    1st set 15-30 reps
    2nd set 15-30 reps
    3rd set 10-12 reps
    4th set 10-12 reps
    5th set 15-30 reps
    im not a fan of that many sets

    (No cardio)
    low intensity wont hurt if your cutting

    Sunday - Rest Day



    Thanks guys, let me know what you think.
    comments in bold

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
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    Thanks for taking the time to post your suggestions.

    I forgot to mention earlier that the reason why I am choosing a 3 day split versus a 4 day split (which is what I really want) is because of restrictions from my school schedule.

    I looked over your comments and I am likely going to make a few adjustments. I'll post them when I figure out exactly what I am going to change. Also, you seem to dislike the push-pull style split. I do agree that the chest exercises seem to fatigue the triceps for example. I am completely open to trying a different split if there is one which will be more effective.

    Keep in mind about the number of sets, that 2 weeks are going to be at this intensity, then one week is going to be at 1/2 the amount of sets in order to offer full muscle and CNS recovery. Still though, I am probably better off toning the sets down a tad since I am on a cutter.

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    no problem, and yes im not a fan of the push pull style for many reasons. actually for triceps, becasue you are doing chest, you are working them out.. and definately shoudl not do 8 sets triceps.. 3 day workout that i like is
    day 1- chest/back
    day 2-delts, tris, bis
    day 3-legs, traps

    these are antagonistic muscle groups and ideal for many reasons. less soreness, more blood flow (while working one you stretch the other), and 2 in one. i wuold do a set of chest then superset wtih back and rest double the time. do the entire workout liek this.

    goodluck man, liek i said im a fan of 4-day/week

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    Bump!

    I'm looking for a second opinion about the split / workout plan before I want to finalize it. Thank you ahead of time for anyone who is willing to take a little bit of their time to help me out.
    Last edited by SocraticMind; 04-20-2009 at 10:37 PM.

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