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    a few questions for on cycle training

    First cycle: I have a few non-chemical questions

    I'm 25, 6 foot 2 inches tall and I'm right around 195 lbs. Ive been working out since I was 19.

    I have been lurking these boards for a while and finally came around to wanting to do a cycle. Age-wise I think I'm in a good time frame and mentally I'm prepared.

    I just put an order in for my first cycle and I have been reading a lot. Here is what I have so far for my cycle:

    2 week prime:
    nolva 10 mg every day
    arimidex .25mg every day

    8 week cycle:
    test e on Monday and Thursday 500 mg a week (250 each day)
    nolva 10 mg every day
    arimidex .25mg every day

    start pct 14 days after last test injection

    PCT
    days 1-7: Nolva 40 mg every day; 100 mg of clomid every day
    days 8-30: Nolva 20 mgs every day; 50 mg of clomid every day

    Diet and supp questions:
    now for some questions... I read that a good guideline for diet is 25 cals for every lb of body weight while on cycle.. i already am consuming 1.5 grams of protein per lb..

    right now i consume around 3500 cals a day. according to this guideline i need to up my intake about 1300 more calories.. will i be hungrier on cycle??

    I enjoy a preworkout sup every now and then.. can i continue use of this on cycle??

    training questions:
    I lift 5 times a week and I follow layne nortons power hypertrophy workout routine. I love it. But would a more conventional split with higher volume be better on cycle??


    thanks in advance for anyone who takes the time to read this and reply. I've done hours of research on this stuff but the diet and training area is still a little fuzzy

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    From what I have heard certain steroids do increase hunger and I believe test E might be one of them. As for pre workout supplement im guessing its like a caffeine pill with other substances that is fine as well. Im not familiar with the hypertrophy workout routine but if you could post a split of what you work out and what days I can be of more help on that subject. Also while here I looked at your cycle and 8 week cycle of test E is short. Most everyone does 12 weeks and some do 10 weeks but I have yet to see an 8 week cycle. I've also never really read anything about priming before a cycle but maybe you have so not going to say don't do it.

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    Nolvadex will significantly decrease the effectiveness of arimidex .

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    ya im dropping the 2 week prime, doing a 10 week cycle, and dropping the nolva on cycle....here is my split:

    Day 1: Upper Body Power Day
    * Pulling Power Movement: Bent over or Pendlay rows
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    * Assistance Pulling movement: Weighted Pull ups
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Auxiliary Pulling movement: Rack chins
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Pressing Power Movement: Flat dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    * Assistance pressing movement: Weighted dips
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Assistance pressing movement: Seated dumbbell shoulder presses
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Auxiliary curling movement: Cambered bar curls
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Auxiliary extension movement: Skull crushers
    3 sets of 6-10 reps

    Day 2: Lower Body Power Day:
    * Pressing Power Movement: Squats
    3 sets of 3-5 reps
    * Assistance pressing movement: Hack Squats
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Assistance extension movement: Leg extensions
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Assistance pulling movement: Stiff legged deadlifts
    3 sets of 5-8 reps
    * Assistance pulling/curling movement: Glute ham raises or lying leg curls
    2 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Auxiliary calf movement: Standing calf raise
    3 sets of 6-10 reps
    * Auxiliary calf movement: Seated calf raise
    2 sets of 6-10 reps

    Day 3: Rest

    Day 4: Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy Day:
    * Pulling Power Exercise speed work: Bent over or Pendlay rows
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    * Hypertrophy pulling movement: Rack chins
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy pulling movement: Seated cable row
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy pulling movement: Dumbbell rows or shrugs bracing upper body against an incline bench
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy pulling movement: Close grip pulldowns
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    * Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Seated dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Upright rows
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Side lateral raises with dumbbells or cables
    3 sets of 12-20 reps

    Day 5: Lower Body Hypertrophy Day:
    * Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    * Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hack squats
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy pressing movement: Leg presses
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy extension movement: Leg extensions
    3 sets of 15-20 reps
    * Hypertrophy pulling movement: Romanian deadlifts
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy curling movement: Lying leg curls
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy curling movement: Seated leg curls
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    * Hypertrophy calf movement: Donkey calf raises
    4 sets of 10-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy calf movement: Seated calf raises
    3 sets of 15-20 reps

    Day 6: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy Day:
    * Pressing Power Exercise speed work: Flat dumbbell presses
    6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
    * Hypertrophy pressing movement: Incline dumbbell presses
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hammer strength chest press
    3 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy fly movement: Incline cable flyes
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    * Hypertrophy curling exercise: Cambered bar preacher curls
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy curling exercise: Dumbbell concentration curls
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy curling exercise: Spider curls bracing upper body against an incline bench
    2 sets of 15-20 reps
    * Hypertrophy extension exercise: Seated tricep extension with cambered bar
    3 sets of 8-12 reps
    * Hypertrophy extension exercise: Cable pressdowns with rope attachment
    2 sets of 12-15 reps
    * Hypertrophy extension exercise: Cable kickbacks
    2 sets of 15-20 reps

    Day 7: Rest

    If your interested in the reasoning behind this split here is the article: http://www.simplyshredded.com/mega-f...ated-2011.html

    its a really good read.. Ive been seeing some good strength results from it

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    hmmm interesting workout routine. While on a cycle your muscles will grow regardless of what you do. As for the best workout split, there really isnt one. Seems like a lot but if you wanna give it a shot I would say go for it. Not sure if you were going to add in cardio at all but I would suggest a low intensity cardio at least 3 times a week for 40-60 min preferably fasted in the morning before you eat.

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