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    ROM?? Why do I keep seeing people doing this?

    I am still unsure but i always go full range of motion. Why do i keep coming across people lifting like this? Am I missing something?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=-tPdrmSH8eE#!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=wYxmuX79078#!

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    The dude is huge but I dont get it either....anyone?

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    He's working real hard on a back injury...

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    general question about scammers online

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    i think the spoon and fork are making full rom's

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    It has to do with the muscles time under tension. By not letting the weight all the way up on lat pull, the back does not get a chance to relax during the set. By not bringing the elbows behind the lats, he is keeping the work load on the lats and not letting the smaller muscles in the back take over at the end of the rep.
    The theory is basically the opposite of rest-pause. Not saying its right or wrong, but there is a theory and reason behind doing it for any exercise.

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    Agreed. Its all about constant tension on the muscle. It works great every now and then. I always see people locking out, IMO you should never lock out 95% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auslifta View Post
    Agreed. Its all about constant tension on the muscle. It works great every now and then. I always see people locking out, IMO you should never lock out 95% of the time.
    agreed..i do lock out every now and then to get enough oxygen to pump out a few more reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tick View Post
    I am still unsure but i always go full range of motion. Why do i keep coming across people lifting like this? Am I missing something?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=-tPdrmSH8eE#!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=wYxmuX79078#!
    He is a powerlifter, those are not his lifts and he is not training for size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareKnuckle View Post
    It has to do with the muscles time under tension. By not letting the weight all the way up on lat pull, the back does not get a chance to relax during the set. By not bringing the elbows behind the lats, he is keeping the work load on the lats and not letting the smaller muscles in the back take over at the end of the rep.
    The theory is basically the opposite of rest-pause. Not saying its right or wrong, but there is a theory and reason behind doing it for any exercise.
    It has nothing to do with that. Time under tension is relative to anyworkout and full r.o.m should always be used. Full range doesnt mean your stopping tension/contraction at a certain point. Its pure ego and just because sombody eats alot and juices super hard doesnt mean they know wtf they are doing. I see huge guys all the time with terrible form and shortened Range. If you do not use full r.o.m you will most likely end up with an injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareKnuckle View Post
    It has to do with the muscles time under tension. By not letting the weight all the way up on lat pull, the back does not get a chance to relax during the set. By not bringing the elbows behind the lats, he is keeping the work load on the lats and not letting the smaller muscles in the back take over at the end of the rep.
    The theory is basically the opposite of rest-pause. Not saying its right or wrong, but there is a theory and reason behind doing it for any exercise.
    Did you watch the video? What you are saying is true but that is not what this dude is doing. The bent over rows were the worst shit I've ever seen.

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    No I only watched the first few seconds. I know what most guys are talking about when they refer to partial reps, and when I started the video, I saw the lat pulldowns and thought "yep, got it" and stopped watching the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1986 View Post
    It has nothing to do with that. Time under tension is relative to anyworkout and full r.o.m should always be used. Full range doesnt mean your stopping tension/contraction at a certain point. Its pure ego and just because sombody eats alot and juices super hard doesnt mean they know wtf they are doing. I see huge guys all the time with terrible form and shortened Range. If you do not use full r.o.m you will most likely end up with an injury.
    Next time you do bench, just do the bottom 2/3rds of the movement and tell me its ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auslifta View Post
    Next time you do bench, just do the bottom 2/3rds of the movement and tell me its ego.
    Thats not even close to what this guy in the video is doing.

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    I'm just replying to your post, 2/3rds is not full ROM, but it will kick your arse. The guy in vid is power lifter, I dont think he cares too much about muscle size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auslifta View Post
    I'm just replying to your post, 2/3rds is not full ROM, but it will kick your arse. The guy in vid is power lifter, I dont think he cares too much about muscle size.

    True, the guy posts on some of the more advanced boards, if I remember correctly he is around 320 pounds and his PL numbers are right up there.

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    This guys trains like a guy at my gym.... Like a dick

    Those bent over rows are dreadfull and so are the shrugs and especially the overhead presses.

    If he is a powerlifter and doing these assistant exercises he should still do them right.

    He whole shorterning the rom is generally bull IMO... At least it is for me and the way I train, which is not as a PL but IMO It doesn't make much difference


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    Quote Originally Posted by auslifta View Post
    I'm just replying to your post, 2/3rds is not full ROM, but it will kick your arse. The guy in vid is power lifter, I dont think he cares too much about muscle size.
    I agree and with baslines above post I agree. Somtimes its okay in order to develop a lacking area but regaurdless it should still be in a controled manner. His shortend rom is even controlled. Hes using body momentum

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    are we watching the same guy and same video?? looks like he knows how to get big and strong with whatever the fk hes doin

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    are we watching the same guy and same video?? looks like he knows how to get big and strong with whatever the fk hes doin
    Thats very subjective. I know guys that are huge and dont workout. That doesnt mean anything. enuf food and gear and right genetics and you can be a monster regaurdless

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    I think he spends to much time injecting gear and not enough in the gym. Yeah he is big but??? I could only watch part of the 1st vid, his form is painful and just wrong.

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    is he doing one of those, 'how not to do it, vids?

    i think this is a joke

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    keeping the tension on a muscle does not have the same effect as contracting in full range. there are certain fibers being used at various points in the movment. I will say exhaustion is def certain if you do not lockout and works great for bench press and military press...but those rows he was doing was straight crap.

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