weighted crunches & hanging leg raises enough for abs?

[luka5]

3x8-12 heavy weighted crunches
3x8-12 hanging leg raises

2x a week

do you think it is enough if i do deadlifts, rows, squats, chins

[DanB]

yeah i do very little for abs

like you say they get worked indirectly through other exercises

but genetics and low bodyfat are main factors here

when i say genetics, some people need to hammer abs, others dont

just wait and see what works for you, if you feel you need more then do more

but i do like to do some side bends and side planks for my obliques

[600@50]

I don't do abs much either. Mainly cable pulldowns both seated and kneeling and some incline crunches.

Here's some good ab exercises to check out:

http://train.elitefts.com/tag/abdominals/

I need to do some of these myself....

[hearnrumors]

I also don't do much for abs.

Like DanB said - body fat and genetics are the biggest factors.

You shouldn't have to do any more than what you listed. Change it up if you get bored.

I personally do 25 Toes-to-Bar and 25 Hanging Crunches. With a db between ankles. 1-2x/wk.