Make them abs huge

**Razor** · 08-23-2012, 11:06 PM

How do you guys do to make your abs pop out and actually increase in size?

**BBJT200** · 08-23-2012, 11:12 PM

Weighted ab exercises. Twice a week i do abs; I always include sit ups with 70-110lb DB's on my chest, or do inverted oblique twists with dumbbells

Also...from the pull up rack, grasp a dumbbell between your feet and do knee raises

**austinite** · 08-23-2012, 11:13 PM

Progress was slow for me for the longest time until I started doing my ab workouts weighted. That's when I started seeing changes.

**abstetic** · 08-23-2012, 11:17 PM

Weighted leg raises

**red_hulk** · 08-23-2012, 11:48 PM

Try doing the hanging leg raise. Go to a pull up bar, pull yourself up halfway and stay there, then pull your knees into your chest using your core.

For me, aside from weighted workouts, that has been the best exercise and targets more core muscles than most other workouts

**Razor** · 08-23-2012, 11:52 PM

Anyone got pics?

**abstetic** · 08-24-2012, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Razor

Anyone got pics?

Of what? Abs ??

**greenwell001** · 08-24-2012, 10:26 AM

Ever heard of toes to bar? Hang on a chin bar, straight legged as possible and bring you legs up and touch your toes to the chin bar. Works the entire core and its fvcking awful but it works the entire core, even those deep muscles. You have to be flexible though. I do alot of twisting plank variations as well. Weighted legg raises are also the bomb.

**Times Roman** · 08-24-2012, 10:49 AM

my female friend's son is a skinny shit. about 5'8" and 125lbs or so. eats like shit. smokes weed/drinks. doesn't exercise. is about 22. and he has abs. fvck him! i hit abs twice a week, eat right, exercise, blah blah blah.

I think 85% of it is genetic.

**Razor** · 08-24-2012, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by abstetic

Of what? Abs ??

Exercises

**baseline_9** · 08-24-2012, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

my female friend's son is a skinny shit. about 5'8" and 125lbs or so. eats like shit. smokes weed/drinks. doesn't exercise. is about 22. and he has abs. fvck him! i hit abs twice a week, eat right, exercise, blah blah blah.

I think 85% of it is genetic.

Abs just come down to diet

Ubcan build them up but personally I prefer to keep the waist tiny and stomach flat

**mockery** · 08-24-2012, 12:24 PM

guys in the 70's train them every day. usually as a separate work out like a am/pm slit.

Weighted crunches and other ab weighted exercises are myth-ed to making your waist line bigger.

ill stick with my 400 roman chair sit ups.

**Razor** · 08-24-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Abs just come down to diet

Ubcan build them up but personally I prefer to keep the waist tiny and stomach flat

It looks awesome to have those big square muscles in a 6 pack

**mockery** · 08-24-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

It looks awesome to have those big square muscles in a 6 pack

not everyone has perfect ab symetry, and if you have ugly abs you would rather have a flat tummy and narrow waist then a big six pack.

**baseline_9** · 08-24-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by mockery

guys in the 70's train them every day. usually as a separate work out like a am/pm slit.

Weighted crunches and other ab weighted exercises are myth-ed to making your waist line bigger.

ill stick with my 400 roman chair sit ups.

How is it a myth.... Build muscle around your waist and it will be bigger.... Build obliques thicker and it will be even worse

I believe if your doing heavy compound lifts (dead, squat, overhead press etc...) your getting plenty of overall core work...

If you want then add some abb exercises but focus on training abs only.... Keep it to body weight and squeeze the abs... If your trying to heave weight around using your core, you will be training obliques heavily and they will grow... Which IMO is not a good look....

Jay cutler for example

**Razor** · 08-24-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

How is it a myth.... Build muscle around your waist and it will be bigger.... Build obliques thicker and it will be even worse

I believe if your doing heavy compound lifts (dead, squat, overhead press etc...) your getting plenty of overall core work...

If you want then add some abb exercises but focus on training abs only.... Keep it to body weight and squeeze the abs... If your trying to heave weight around using your core, you will be training obliques heavily and they will grow... Which IMO is not a good look....

Jay cutler for example

Who was worse do you think Cutler or Ronnie?

**auswest** · 08-25-2012, 04:43 AM

All of today's bbers are terrible, bring back arnies era

**baseline_9** · 08-25-2012, 04:48 AM

My waist comes in pretty tight when I diet.... And that's why I don't do heavy abb training.... I'm happy with the small waist... Makes ur lats look better

**greenwell001** · 08-25-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

My waist comes in pretty tight when I diet.... And that's why I don't do heavy abb training.... I'm happy with the small waist... Makes ur lats look better

damn, that's a nice back, you just motivated me.

**mockery** · 08-25-2012, 09:49 AM

i said myth-ed for teh sake of people always arguing shit like that, baseline you know , i know ... but people reading this right now and googlng the topic hoping its now true.

**baseline_9** · 08-25-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by greenwell001

damn, that's a nice back, you just motivated me.

It's not that great at all in this pic.... I was dieting naturally and was flat and lost size as well as fat...

It's a small waist that makes it look so wide

**liftology** · 08-25-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

How is it a myth.... Build muscle around your waist and it will be bigger.... Build obliques thicker and it will be even worse

I believe if your doing heavy compound lifts (dead, squat, overhead press etc...) your getting plenty of overall core work...

If you want then add some abb exercises but focus on training abs only.... Keep it to body weight and squeeze the abs... If your trying to heave weight around using your core, you will be training obliques heavily and they will grow... Which IMO is not a good look....

Jay cutler for example

^^^agree with this. I stopped training obliques because I am going for the slim waist look.

**Razor** · 08-27-2012, 12:58 PM

Hella good looking back.

**Razor** · 08-28-2012, 11:42 AM

Base why dont you want big abs and cuts..it looks bad ass r

**songdog** · 08-28-2012, 01:55 PM

Want big abs 4 or 5 Big Macs Super size those fries with a milkshake

just sayin!

**songdog** · 08-28-2012, 01:57 PM

Baseline is a Genetic freak I hate lookin at that sh1t LOL Lookin good Baseline keep up the good work.

**baseline_9** · 08-28-2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

Base why dont you want big abs and cuts..it looks bad ass r

Cuz I want to look like my chest and back is way too big for my body....

Looking good is an optical illusion and I like the way a tight wast with little muscle looks compared to a muscular waist...

Just a personal preference thing I suppose....

**baseline_9** · 08-28-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

Baseline is a Genetic freak I hate lookin at that sh1t LOL Lookin good Baseline keep up the good work.

Don't know about that m8... My waist defo ent that tight anymore lol

I'm getting back on track tho..... I will be in the best shape I've been in come feb next year....

**Razor** · 08-28-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Don't know about that m8... My waist defo ent that tight anymore lol

I'm getting back on track tho..... I will be in the best shape I've been in come feb next year....

Whats your stats?

**baseline_9** · 08-28-2012, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

Whats your stats?

I have stopped using the scales as it was not a good way for me to progress....

But about 190... 14%BF, 5'7"?..nnot been on gear for 6 months now

I plan to get to 10% BF and then grow slowly from there... Keeping BF below 12% year round....

I Respond well to AAS but have realised that gains on gear don not stay.... My body just loves being where I am now.... It's just my set point I believe.... No matter what I do I will stay here or just get fatter when trying to grow

**Razor** · 08-28-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

I have stopped using the scales as it was not a good way for me to progress....

But about 190... 14%BF, 5'7"?..nnot been on gear for 6 months now

I plan to get to 10% BF and then grow slowly from there... Keeping BF below 12% year round....

I Respond well to AAS but have realised that gains on gear don not stay.... My body just loves being where I am now.... It's just my set point I believe.... No matter what I do I will stay here or just get fatter when trying to grow

Good shit man
im 5'10
200lbs
14%

**baseline_9** · 08-28-2012, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

Good shit man
im 5'10
200lbs
14%

If u plan to get to 225 what BF will u be looking at?

I mean it's easy to be 225, but to look good at 225 is a different story

**Razor** · 08-28-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

If u plan to get to 225 what BF will u be looking at?

I mean it's easy to be 225, but to look good at 225 is a different story

I'm naturally lean and a small guy so keeping bf down has me has been easy, shit I ran Humalin R and gh for 6 months and gained 10lbs of muscle and dropped 2% bf.

10% at 225 is my goal. 3 cycles planned out

Test depo, test prop, Anavar

Test enth, test prop, primo, tbol

Cut mix oil based only, no orals
150mg prop/tren /mast ED

**baseline_9** · 08-29-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Razor

I'm naturally lean and a small guy so keeping bf down has me has been easy, shit I ran Humalin R and gh for 6 months and gained 10lbs of muscle and dropped 2% bf.

10% at 225 is my goal. 3 cycles planned out

Test depo, test prop, Anavar

Test enth, test prop, primo, tbol

Cut mix oil based only, no orals
150mg prop/tren/mast ED

What time frame r u talking to get to 225.... That's a big ask TBH

**Razor** · 08-29-2012, 11:49 AM

Within the next two years...I put on 40lbs last year with a short test cycle and a year and half of GH and then 6months of that was just 10iu of slin and GH ED, no gear, which I gained another 10lbs so I went from 190-200lbs in 6 months with a 2% drop in bf even using humalin r at high doses..I dont think its to much to ask..I have good genetics, stay lean and hold onto all my gains..I never lost a single lbs getting of test or the GH. Even when I went through my E2 Crash for 2 months. still at 200lbs and 14%..I really dont think its to much to ask considering my history.

**Razor** · 08-29-2012, 11:52 AM

Within the next two years...I put one 40lbs last year with a short test cycle and a year and half of GH..I dont think its to much to ask..I have good genetics, stay lean and hold onto all my gains..I never lost a single lbs getting of test or the GH. Even when I went through my E2 Crash for 2 months. still at 200lbs and 14%..I really dont think its to much to ask considering my history.

Have you seen my progress pics?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...5#.UD5Wsmie6WU

**baseline_9** · 08-29-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Razor

Within the next two years...I put one 40lbs last year with a short test cycle and a year and half of GH..I dont think its to much to ask..I have good genetics, stay lean and hold onto all my gains..I never lost a single lbs getting of test or the GH. Even when I went through my E2 Crash for 2 months. still at 200lbs and 14%..I really dont think its to much to ask considering my history.

Have you seen my progress pics?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...5#.UD5Wsmie6WU

Within the next 2 years that's probably doable.... He'll I recan I could do it in 2 years if I was on gear

**Razor** · 08-29-2012, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Within the next 2 years that's probably doable.... He'll I recan I could do it in 2 years if I was on gear

what do you think of my progress? if you look at my upcoming cycles...they are good ones.

**baseline_9** · 08-29-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

what do you think of my progress? if you look at my upcoming cycles...they are good ones.

Yeh your progress is good... Link me to ur upcoming cycles

**Razor** · 08-29-2012, 12:21 PM

10% at 225 is my goal. 3 cycles planned out

1st Test depo, test prop, Anavar

2nd Test enth, test prop, primo, tbol

3rd Cut mix oil based only, no orals
150mg prop/tren /mast ED