question regarding pumps

[copaaz]

Ok so when I workout my biceps, I have to hit them with a 10-12 rep range in order to get a pump. When I do rep ranges of 6-8 I don't get a pump or at least not anything close to the 10-12 range. I guess I have this conception that the bigger the pump the more growth? Is there merit to that? I do understand hypertrophy occurs in the 6-8 range but does the pump in the 10-12 range have anything to do with growth or the lack of a pump in the 6-8 have anything to do with lack of growth?

[bigsiv]

When your in the 6-8 rep range are you using more weight?

[copaaz]

of course

[austinite]

I get pumps either way. Try going beyond failure, even if your pulls come short. Also try Standing concentration curls. This kills the bicep and typically you won't be able to lift as much weight as you normally do with standard curls.

[MickeyKnox]

Take advantage of both.

Lift heavy with low reps and then immediately drop to low weight and higher reps (14-20). I promise you'll get a pump like nothing else.

[copaaz]

I don't really care if I get the pump. My question is, if I'm not getting massive pumps and I'm in the 6-8 rep range, will I still grow? Assuming everything else in dialed in.

[jpowell]

IMO I think if your not getting a pump in 8 rep range something is wrong.

1. Your working your muscle, but not growing.
2. The weight is not heavy enough
3. Your doing the exercise wrong

Personally I keep eveything I do in the 8-12 rep range except for arms. I blast those ma****ers at high levels with heavy weight, to get that bump or blood flow to where they are tight.

Try increasing weight dramatically w/out sacrificing form...also how do you train arms??
At end of a rouitine like chest or back?

But to answer your question, there is a difference between working out the muscle and simply working the muscle. Anytime you are not going balls to walls is consider working the muscle.
This develops no growth.
I remember reading something on this somewhere, I'm gonna try and find mayb attach the link.

Good luck broski.

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[copaaz]

form is perfect, failure at 6-8 reps. I do enough weight so that I can get to 6-8 reps, if I could get more then I would. I'm going to incorporate some forced reps and 2-3 negatives per set on my next couple of bicep workouts. We'll see then. Of course I'm talking about the 6-8 rep range still.

[Awesome_Archy]

On arms I feel it most when I go to failure then force a long negative. Also try and keep your rest time short.

[copaaz]

So I've tested this out the last 3 bicep days and apparently my bi's only respond to reps in the range of 10-12. When I do 6-8 I don't get much pump. Do you think going 6-8 rep range is a waste of time?