U.S. Hits Mosque Compound; 40 Said Killed

[spywizard]

Actually...... like it or not there are casualties of war..... the only time a country is attacked ( in history) is because the attacker believes they can win. except in the middle east..

where the poverty is so rampant that they are required to eat dust...... or nothing at all.

The country has billions upon billions of assets, and US dollars in boxes hidden away.. (some we found) a governing person based on thier wants and desires for thier own good buys gold toilet seats..........

while thier "Brothers" are murdered, thier countrymen killed by thier own kind... much as we did in the civil war.....

Religious Zelots will always whip the anger of the people that have the least to loose...for if they have nothing, and a promise of reward if they just give thier life... In the middle ages kings did this with knights, and mercenaries....

Bottom line is they have been beaten down so much and for so long.. they don't understand how others have so much........... while they "the choosen" have so little.......... pray to thier god to provide........ that's a whole other issue..

He has answered with a resounding...................... silence............

Ever wonder why the us will never have a land invasion ( i believe it is possible)..........

In all cases.......... the strong rule over the weak.......... but only as long as they are strong........... Even the roman empior passed away......... the main difference............ we send Billions of dollars, food, and education, support etc........... rather than taking.............

How hard would it be if the US just took the oil fields???? not very..... who whould stop us??? the UN??????? hardly......... we created the UN......... we are the UN>>>>>>>........................... the Chinnese?? maybe......... Too far away........ and too small of a standing army..... and too much to loose.

The UN wants the US to spend $80 Billion dollars to protect them from terroist... I think not... if you stand for the dogs......... lay with the dogs.... we will still try to help you....... when you spit on us, but still take our food, our money......... there can be no respect for you...........

this isn't directed at you militia........ just in general..

ah now the resistance fighters that are fighting and invading force are called terrorist ,so usa gov have the right to attack any country and if the soldiers or the resistance fought back they are terrorist

[decadbal]

how sick its when u see some ppl enjoying this massacre because A number of children were among the casualties

for one, no one knows who killed the child, 2 the ppl there have killed more of their own, innocent ppl then we can ever.... 3, if we did kill the child, he prolly had a bomb attached to him, bc that is what is taught and like the japanese of WW2, to die as a martyr is as close to pefect as you can get, those children have been brainwashed from day one, and as horrible as it sounds, and can come across, i woudlnt trade 1 soldiers life for any of those children. this war was brought to us, we didnt just shove our views in another coutries face, we were attacked so if u dont wanna piss off the dog, dont throw rocks at it. i do not advocate killin of any children unless in self defense...

[Red Ketchup]

I honestly don't see why people hold churches, synagogues, temples or mosks in such high regard when it comes to civilian targets. I would be a LOT more concerned seeing hospitals or food banks targetted.

All thru history, places of worship have been destroyed by invaders time and time again. During WW2, the nazis destroyed most synagogues and just about any place of worship on their path (though they avoided touching catholic churches). Americans and Brits (and we Canadians) did the same in nazi occupied territory.

And we don't have to go back that far either... just look at how many black churches were firebombed by Americans in the deep south during the civil rights years...

Besides everyone knows that the "neutrality" and "immunity" of places of worship has been abused forever. During ww2, there wasn't a single catholic church in France that wasn't being used as a base of operations by the Résistance. To this day illegals (aliens, criminals, whatever) use places of worship as "sanctuary" to try and get away from the law.

Are mosks being used by terrorists (or even "Iraki Resistance") as bases? I've no doubt they are. Knowing the opponent considers places of worship "off limits" I would if I were in their shoes.

As far as I am concerned, other than well marked hospitals, there should be no off limit targets... war is war, not a politically correct conflict.

Red

[rambo]

How do you find humor in that?

[Carlos_E]

How do you find humor in that?

jbigdog69 follows decadbal around like a puppy laughing at anything he posts.

[jbigdog69]

jbigdog69 follows decadbal around like a puppy laughing at anything he posts.

All you look forward to is finding where I post so you can talk behind my back...or at least until I catch up with you. Oh, and I did not write that...but it is humorous to me about the statement...because they(the bomb carriers) are getting younger all tha time.....The dead baby is horrible in my eyes.....but I guess God had a better place for him.

[chicamahomico]

EliteFitness just called and wants to extend a most gracious invite for you jdog......please go to www.elitefitness.com ......you'll fit right in at that board. Believe it or not here at AR people actually prefer if you at least make a token effort to contribute something meaningful to threads.

Back to the subject at hand. Tactical strikes are made on religious temples for a couple of reasons IMO. Islamic fundamentalists often shelter themsleves in shrines knowing they will eventually be targetted there which allows them to claim a retaliatory strike is some sort of the Devil vs Allah thing. This is a classic way of buildng support umongst the uneducated and ill-informed citizens in the surrounding areas.

All you look forward to is finding where I post so you can talk behind my back...or at least until I catch up with you. Oh, and I did not write that...but it is humorous to me about the statement...because they(the bomb carriers) are getting younger all tha time.....The dead baby is horrible in my eyes.....but I guess God had a better place for him.

[3vil3lmo]

So lets bomb the **** out of all the religious centres? Please, you have che as your avatar (well, it looks like him) and you're talking about it being ok that the US can do whatever they want, let me guess. You wear nike as well. You're such a walking cliche.

Also, a holy centre in Islam is 1000000x more important than your churches, for one, holy people lead the country. Shrines are where thousands of people go every day to pray and go about their spirituality. Now, on a HUNCH that there is a POSSIBLE terrorist there is just stupid. Americans wonder why they arn't wanted in iraq, its because they dont understand the Islamic culture. Its like England vs IRA all over again.

[Rickson]

So lets bomb the **** out of all the religious centres? Please, you have che as your avatar (well, it looks like him) and you're talking about it being ok that the US can do whatever they want, let me guess. You wear nike as well. You're such a walking cliche.

Also, a holy centre in Islam is 1000000x more important than your churches, for one, holy people lead the country. Shrines are where thousands of people go every day to pray and go about their spirituality. Now, on a HUNCH that there is a POSSIBLE terrorist there is just stupid. Americans wonder why they arn't wanted in iraq, its because they dont understand the Islamic culture. Its like England vs IRA all over again.

I don't think to many religious people in this country are going to believe that a holy centre in Islam is more important then one of our churches. I think that when people are shooting at you it takes the guess work out of whether terrorist are in the building. Of course that is just a HUNCH. I also find it hard to believe that Saddam was a holy person.

[3vil3lmo]

I never said he was, nor have I heard anyone call him that. The "terrorists" that are attacking americans are anti-saddam, they are also anti-american. If americans came into my country to "liberate" me, I wouldn't sit for it, thats for sure and especially if they start attacking our holy centres.
Ah you said "religious people" 99.99% of people living in Iraq are highly religous. America, not everyone is, nor are they as dedicated to their religion. America is one of the most anti-religious nations, massive porn industry, gigantic corruption, killing, racism etc. etc. Yet you love to call yourselves a nation built on morals.

Before anyone starts with the Osama & Saddam working together crap, please, dont. You're just going to make yourself look like a retard because they are from two different sects, they hate each other. Its like, KKK members and non-white people working together. Just doesn't work!

[symatech]

everybody knows that osama considered saddam a "bad muslim", thats not the point. The point is, if you were being shot at you'd defend yourself. Just because they have no shame and attack from a mosque doesn't mean people dont have the right to fight back. As it was stated above, the anger should be directed towards the men who decided to use the mosque as a fort.

[alevok]

Last year Bush was insisting that Iraq had mass destrction weapon, and used it as an excuse to attack Iraq, were those weapons ever found? No. After he said he had to catch Saddam for the sake of Iraqis, what changed after Saddam was captured for Iraqis? Actually things get worse for those people. Iraqis have been suffering from US amborgo for years. Many children died due to lack of medicin. Nothing changed for them and now Iraqis do not believe anymore that US soldiers are there to "SAVE" them, they are aware that US is after their precious oil. In their eyes US soldiers became an invading enemy and since they do not have a proper army, they would defend themselves with any means necessary. It is their country after all, their homeland, US soldiers were not invited. If my country gets invaded by another country I do not hesitate to kill their soldiers.
Because war does never happen on your soil and you are so far away from war, it looks like a joke to you guys, it is easy for you to enjoy a massacre in your comfy homes.
Believe it or not, you may have the most powerful bombs, missiles, nukes but they have faith, and faith always wins. So before Iraq becomes next vietnam, US army must retreat. Remember attackin vietnam was a bad idea but no one was thinkin that way when the war was on, same thing will happen, you will regret that you ever attacked to Iraq.
Now you are gonna call me that I am anti-US, no I am not, I truely believe this war is not just and I know there are many Americans believe the same way I do.
It is a war over oil, makes me sick.

[ripped4fsu]

I don't like Bush, and I disagree with this war... BUT, I have two brothers in the military and I stand behind our troops and my country 100%.

I know If I was over there and someone was shooting at me and then ran into a church to hide I wouldn't hesitate to drop the hammer on the whole friggin building... because it was HIS decision to run in there like a pussy, and those are HIS people dying, not mine.

M-guy, nice try to shock us with that picture, but to be honest I would step over that dead kid without a second thought on my way to kill his father/brother/uncle/mother etc... who was shooting at me.

war sucks... people die... but better them than us IMO.

~R

[Mart651]

M guy. Don't give me that baby killing ****. Your people send their own kids to die. Hopefully we get them first.

[Butch]

for one, no one knows who killed the child, 2 the ppl there have killed more of their own, innocent ppl then we can ever.... 3, if we did kill the child, he prolly had a bomb attached to him, bc that is what is taught and like the japanese of WW2, to die as a martyr is as close to pefect as you can get, those children have been brainwashed from day one, and as horrible as it sounds, and can come across, i woudlnt trade 1 soldiers life for any of those children. this war was brought to us, we didnt just shove our views in another coutries face, we were attacked so if u dont wanna piss off the dog, dont throw rocks at it. i do not advocate killin of any children unless in self defense...

*high five....couldn't of said it any better myself.....

[Animal Cracker]

for one, no one knows who killed the child, 2 the ppl there have killed more of their own, innocent ppl then we can ever.... 3, if we did kill the child, he prolly had a bomb attached to him, bc that is what is taught and like the japanese of WW2, to die as a martyr is as close to pefect as you can get, those children have been brainwashed from day one, and as horrible as it sounds, and can come across, i woudlnt trade 1 soldiers life for any of those children. this war was brought to us, we didnt just shove our views in another coutries face, we were attacked so if u dont wanna piss off the dog, dont throw rocks at it. i do not advocate killin of any children unless in self defense...

[symatech]

decadbal, this war was not brought to us. Sadam has nothign to do with 9/11 and had no wmd. therefore he was NO threat to us. I agree that it is the fighters fault for using the mosque as a fort, but we DO just shove our views in other countries faces and we were not attacked first.

[jbigdog69]

EliteFitness just called and wants to extend a most gracious invite for you jdog......please go to www.elitefitness.com ......you'll fit right in at that board. Believe it or not here at AR people actually prefer if you at least make a token effort to contribute something meaningful to threads.

And dude I have told ya before...don't be a hater of tha Jdog...after all we have something in common...we both like that big as BLUNT in your avater's mouth...and if you were in my presence with that monster BLUNT....I would take it from you and make you beg for another hit!!

[BOUNCER]

Pretty disgusting.

[Animal Cracker]

Last year Bush was insisting that Iraq had mass destrction weapon, and used it as an excuse to attack Iraq, were those weapons ever found? No. After he said he had to catch Saddam for the sake of Iraqis, what changed after Saddam was captured for Iraqis? Actually things get worse for those people. Iraqis have been suffering from US amborgo for years. Many children died due to lack of medicin. Nothing changed for them and now Iraqis do not believe anymore that US soldiers are there to "SAVE" them, they are aware that US is after their precious oil. In their eyes US soldiers became an invading enemy and since they do not have a proper army, they would defend themselves with any means necessary. It is their country after all, their homeland, US soldiers were not invited. If my country gets invaded by another country I do not hesitate to kill their soldiers.
Because war does never happen on your soil and you are so far away from war, it looks like a joke to you guys, it is easy for you to enjoy a massacre in your comfy homes.
Believe it or not, you may have the most powerful bombs, missiles, nukes but they have faith, and faith always wins. So before Iraq becomes next vietnam, US army must retreat. Remember attackin vietnam was a bad idea but no one was thinkin that way when the war was on, same thing will happen, you will regret that you ever attacked to Iraq.
Now you are gonna call me that I am anti-US, no I am not, I truely believe this war is not just and I know there are many Americans believe the same way I do.
It is a war over oil, makes me sick.

Believe it or not, you may have the most powerful bombs, missiles, nukes but they have faith, and faith always wins- This what the Japs thought - (twice!!)- It is what thousands of invaders and mongrels thought when they came to kill my Orthodox brothers..- same out come, different means!
Iraqis have been suffering from US amborgo for years. Many children died due to lack of medicine- UN embargo

Last year Bush was insisting that Iraq had mass destrction weapon, and used it as an excuse to attack Iraq, were those weapons ever found? No- In all honesty, no excuse was needed..12 years of excuses were given by Saddam..and his cronies..after the threat to kill GW's father..that was enough! Look at what Ronald Reagan did to Khadaffi, after he made a threat..scrambled two F-16s...bombed ol curly's house..

[jbigdog69]

Pretty disgusting.

Bro...I tried to "clearly" explain what I found amusing about decabol's statement(not mine). However, out of respect I have removed tha post. And I do not appreciate being slammed for something i did not post. For god sakes it was not about tha baby. And as for tha dancing elephant and bannana man. Remove them if it is offensive to you.

[lxorl]

well fight like a soldier and we will call you a soldier... fight like a terrorist.. hiding in mosques... hiding in crowds... strapping kids with explosives, and you will be labeled a terrorist. pretty simple concept to understand.

ah now the resistance fighters that are fighting and invading force are called terrorist ,so usa gov have the right to attack any country and if the soldiers or the resistance fought back they are terrorist

[lxorl]

once again... they fought like soldiers, with pride... not like a coward hiding among women and children and behind god.... jihad is for pussys.

so from your honorable theorie i can conclude that the french/english resistance against the german in the ww2 is considered as a terrorist organization hmmm this sound very logic

[lxorl]

are you trying to say there is no racish in iraq? Suni, sheite, kurd... why did sadam kill half the population? racism! no corruption in Iraq either.

I never said he was, nor have I heard anyone call him that. The "terrorists" that are attacking americans are anti-saddam, they are also anti-american. If americans came into my country to "liberate" me, I wouldn't sit for it, thats for sure and especially if they start attacking our holy centres.
Ah you said "religious people" 99.99% of people living in Iraq are highly religous. America, not everyone is, nor are they as dedicated to their religion. America is one of the most anti-religious nations, massive porn industry, gigantic corruption, killing, racism etc. etc. Yet you love to call yourselves a nation built on morals.

Before anyone starts with the Osama & Saddam working together crap, please, dont. You're just going to make yourself look like a retard because they are from two different sects, they hate each other. Its like, KKK members and non-white people working together. Just doesn't work!

you you

[Superhuman]

We should get a big can of kick ass,and exterminate all those sand fleas!

hell yeah, dawg!

[MilitiaGuy]

that was a different war. did british and french troops use their own civilians
as tactical hiding areas?? nope. they fought towards a common cause. all peoples were united. this is a different story my friend

beleive me this is the case in iraq no one like the existance of the american troops on the iraqi landask anybody in iraq from a 10 year old boy to a 90 year old man they will tell they dont like this,they are against the american invasion of iraq they r all together look how the iraqi demonstrators came to from baghdad to fallujah just to help the ppl there beleive everyone is against this ,as for me i feeling bad because i cant go to iraq and fight with my brothers they need but i cant,everyone her in lebanon christian/muslims are against the american invasion yes saddam was a bastard but this dosent justify the invasion,everyday her i hear 2 or 5 ppl insulting the american gov and bush from educated ppl to taxi drivers everyone.

[OGPackin]

as for me i feeling bad because i cant go to iraq and fight with my brothers they need but i cant

Very interesting quote there M'guy. If u say u would go fight over there whats going to stop u when or if u come to the US for school like u said?! Whats going to happen when Hizbollah asks u to repay them what u owe them for school...etc. huh

But boy i wish u would go over to fight. Id love to see a 500lb bomb dropped right on ur head!

I HOPE this little quote here from M'guy opens EVERYONES eyes up about him!!!

OG

[Carlos_E]

Very interesting quote there M'guy. If u say u would go fight over there whats going to stop u when or if u come to the US for school like u said?! Whats going to happen when Hizbollah asks u to repay them what u owe them for school...etc. huh

But boy i wish u would go over to fight. Id love to see a 500lb bomb dropped right on ur head!

I HOPE this little quote here from M'guy opens EVERYONES eyes up about him!!!

OG

That he's willing to fight for his country? Wouldn't you say the same if someone was invading the United States?

[OGPackin]

That he's willing to fight for his country? Wouldn't you say the same if someone was invading the United States?

Ya but hes NOT from Iraq Carlos. He lives in Lebanon i do believe.

OG

[spywizard]

beleive me this is the case in iraq no one like the existance of the american troops on the iraqi landask anybody in iraq from a 10 year old boy to a 90 year old man they will tell they dont like this,they are against the american invasion of iraq they r all together look how the iraqi demonstrators came to from baghdad to fallujah just to help the ppl there beleive everyone is against this ,as for me i feeling bad because i cant go to iraq and fight with my brothers they need but i cant,everyone her in lebanon christian/muslims are against the american invasion yes saddam was a bastard but this dosent justify the invasion,everyday her i hear 2 or 5 ppl insulting the american gov and bush from educated ppl to taxi drivers everyone.

Before we turned back on thier electricity, and thier water, and fed them.... they are where they are at because of thier poverty.... and thier lifestye... thier dictator...... if a person chooses to live barbaric lifestyle....... i support that......... but don't try and kill me an my family because we are prosperous.. and no i won't share with you...... i earned my prosperity, not from selling my brothers, and sisters, and killing anyone that was against me.
An i don't hate muslims just because they hate me........ but i will not allow them to harm me or my family, and kins man........



And the afore mentioned resources.......... are better today......... than they were 40 years ago when american money started pumping oil for them..

[jbigdog69]

Before we turned back on thier electricity, and thier water, and fed them.... they are where they are at because of thier poverty.... and thier lifestye... thier dictator...... if a person chooses to live barbaric lifestyle....... i support that......... but don't try and kill me an my family because we are prosperous.. and no i won't share with you...... i earned my prosperity, not from selling my brothers, and sisters, and killing anyone that was against me.
An i don't hate muslims just because they hate me........ but i will not allow them to harm me or my family, and kins man........



And the afore mentioned resources.......... are better today......... than they were 40 years ago when american money started pumping oil for them..

I almost wrote something very similar...weird...but very good post...could not have said it better myself.

[MilitiaGuy]

Very interesting quote there M'guy. If u say u would go fight over there whats going to stop u when or if u come to the US for school like u said?! Whats going to happen when Hizbollah asks u to repay them what u owe them for school...etc. huh

But boy i wish u would go over to fight. Id love to see a 500lb bomb dropped right on ur head!

I HOPE this little quote here from M'guy opens EVERYONES eyes up about him!!!

OG

hey lets say u live in a country x and a country y army attacked u,u will not fight for your dignity and for your country ,yes u think iraq is not my country but we are all muslims/arabs actualy the root of my family is from iraq-najaf

[OGPackin]

hey lets say u live in a country x and a country y army attacked u,u will not fight for your dignity and for your country ,yes u think iraq is not my country but we are all muslims/arabs actualy the root of my family is from iraq-najaf

Heres a better analogy M'guy. Say Great Britain gets invaded would i go fight for them.....No! Its not my country, not my country men and i have no reason to be there because im a civilian. Im not a member of the army. And i certainly wouldnt use that as an excuse to kill innocent men and women like ur trying to do. Ohhh and the background of my family is Eastern European. Russia and Germany. That doesnt mean id go fight for them does it? I think not!

OG

[floyd_turbo]

beleive me this is the case in iraq no one like the existance of the american troops on the iraqi landask anybody in iraq from a 10 year old boy to a 90 year old man they will tell they dont like this,they are against the american invasion of iraq they r all together look how the iraqi demonstrators came to from baghdad to fallujah just to help the ppl there beleive everyone is against this ,as for me i feeling bad because i cant go to iraq and fight with my brothers they need but i cant,everyone her in lebanon christian/muslims are against the american invasion yes saddam was a bastard but this dosent justify the invasion,everyday her i hear 2 or 5 ppl insulting the american gov and bush from educated ppl to taxi drivers everyone.

i'm pretty sure your people were happier then pigs in sh!t when the american troops first invaded and liberated them from sadaams reign of terror, extortion, racism, genocide..etc..etc.. i didnt hear to many people objecting then bro... lets get serious now

[abstrack]

good news? What kind of person are you, imagine your family is praying in a church and somenone bombs them? How do you like it? Innocent people are dying and you are calling this good news? Get a life!

Innocent?

Let God sort them out.

[abstrack]

,as for me i feeling bad because i cant go to iraq and fight with my brothers they need

You cant? It's funny that you could be planning on coming to America and go to a school but you cant make it to fight with your "brothers"?
R....i.....g.....h.....t.....!!!!!!

[OGPackin]

Hey M'guy read this story...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4684713/


Would this be something ud proudly do also?

Insurgents threatened in a videotape to burn three Japanese hostages alive if Tokyo did not withdraw from the U.S.-led coalition within three days, the first such ultimatum involving foreign civilians in Iraq. Japan immediately demanded their release and said it saw no reason to pull out. Two Arab residents of Jerusalem and a Canadian, all of them humanitarian workers, reportedly were kidnapped along with the Japanese civilians, while Britain confirmed that a British civilian had disappeared in what could be another kidnapping.

[chicamahomico]

So lets bomb the **** out of all the religious centres?

What I said was that I believe the military should not forego a tactical strike because they targets are in a church or any other place. If Osama was hiding in Mecca and for some reason couldn't be extracted then I dont believe the military should think twice about reducing Mecca (or any other site being used to evade capture) to rubble.

Please, you have che as your avatar (well, it looks like him) and you're talking about it being ok that the US can do whatever they want, let me guess. You wear nike as well. You're such a walking cliche.

That is Che in my avatar. I own a few Nike products, most people in north america do......don't let that get your panties in a bunch. I don't think the USA or any other country should act unilaterally in most foreign policy cases involving military presence or action.

Also, a holy centre in Islam is 1000000x more important than your churches.....

I am not a religious person so no religious place is important in my eyes with the exception being a place of historic value. I cannot imagine you would be able to convince a person of another faith that a mosque is any more important than any other church, temple, or shrine.

[3vil3lmo]

But like I said, its not a few people who see it as holy, I can imagine that catholics, well devout catholics would see the importance of the church. But they only go to church once a week for an hour. We spend days in there, it is part of the community and in countries like Iraq, everyone, the entire community see it as a holy place and should be treated as such.

No problem with them attacking it via soldiers, but dropping missles into the area, thats just bad. Being around "terrorists" doesn't make you one, like sitting in class doesn't make you smart, you have to join in the activities for that to happen.

edit : With the osama thing, in Mecca, you destroy that and you have yourselves a world wide war against muslims, that is destroying a huge part of our religion. Once in my life time I must travel to mecca, but if you destroy it, that is a holy place which should be DEFINATLY treated as such. What would happen if muslims were chasing a irish terrorist, he ran into your popes place (sistine chappel or something) and so they blew it to hell, killing the pope and many other innocent people. What would happen?

[BOUNCER]

What would happen if muslims were chasing a irish terrorist, he ran into your popes place (sistine chappel or something) and so they blew it to hell, killing the pope and many other innocent people. What would happen?

Mate nothing would happen. Now blow up one of our pubs and we'll bring an Irish alcoholic jihad upon the world, the likes of which no one could imagine