Need help! My testosterone shutdown 3 months after cycle

[aalshake]

Hello, i am 22 years old 215lb 6'1" 16%bf. I did my second cycle 6 months ago 12 weeks of test/deca 750mg/600mg for 8weeks, then test/tren 500mg/400mg. After a week i did a 5 weeks nolvadex only pct 40/40/20/20/20.
Now its been 2 months after my pct. My libido is dead, i still can get erection but not like before. I went to check my testosterone and the result was 158, when the normal level is between 348-1197. I am taking natural honey with gingerine, a friend recommended taking that. Also taking horney goat weed supplement daily. What would be the best thing i can do to recover, can i start another pct? Because i heard nolvadex only can do that. I am planning to run another cycle soon of test/tren to cut. But idk how long i should wait.

[DSS]

I am planning to run another cycle soon of test/tren to cut. But idk how long i should wait.

^^^^^^
This is the last thing you should be thinking about

There 2 heavy duty cycles at 22. Yikes

[bullshark99]

Wow, I was just gonna say taking honey for your T is about as useless as Tits on a boar.....then in your next breadth you want to cycle again????? You best get used to having your "tool" broken.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

If I were you...
Do another PCT with clomid and nolva.
8 weeks after PCT, get blood work.
Do not do another cycle.

[clarky.]

Hello, i am 22 years old 215lb 6'1" 16%bf. I did my second cycle 6 months ago 12 weeks of test/deca 750mg/600mg for 8weeks, then test/tren 500mg/400mg. After a week i did a 5 weeks nolvadex only pct 40/40/20/20/20.
Now its been 2 months after my pct. My libido is dead, i still can get erection but not like before. I went to check my testosterone and the result was 158, when the normal level is between 348-1197. I am taking natural honey with gingerine, a friend recommended taking that. Also taking horney goat weed supplement daily. What would be the best thing i can do to recover, can i start another pct? Because i heard nolvadex only can do that. I am planning to run another cycle soon of test/tren to cut. But idk how long i should wait.

What you need to do is get blood work done asap.

1. Testosterone , Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)
8. Prolactin

[aalshake]

For how long should i run the pct for? I already did total testosterone test, i cannot afford the other tests. But the result i got is enough to conclude that im ****ed.

[NACH3]

Did you run HCG during this cycle??

I'm in agreement that you need to run another pct with both clomid 100/75/50/50(or 100/75/75/50)nolva 40/40/20/20/20/10... But I'm wondering if his testes even responded if he didn't use HCG?! Power pct would figure that out but last resort(it may be)..

And don't do another cycle for a long time - until you figure this out and your still young... You don't want to live like this forever do you?

[aalshake]

I never used hcg before, i just used nolvadex . Im going to start the clomid/nolva pct as soon as i get it

[np67]

Here we go again, another kid using steroids . Not only this, but using Tren in a second cycle. That is disrespecting Tren. That is like playing your best card in your first or second go.
Do not even think of running another cycle until you are 30, as you are far to young and the bodyfat is too high. I just do not understand how people do not realise this.

[somewhatjacked]

Senior members - what could be the possible reason(s) for this? Running harsh compounds at high doses?

[TheTaxMan]

Here we go again, another kid using steroids . Not only this, but using Tren in a second cycle. That is disrespecting Tren. That is like playing your best card in your first or second go.
Do not even think of running another cycle until you are 30, as you are far to young and the bodyfat is too high. I just do not understand how people do not realise this.

Its called naivety and impatience

[Splifton]

I'm curious as to who gave you the idea that those dosages are safe? Especially when you are just beginning?

If it's one of your friends then he shouldn't be your friend anymore.

[Simon1972]

2 months after pct and your t is at 158?? you would have expected higher results even without a pct.
Just noticed your dosages and looks like you have obviously shut down your testes big time, definitly try a htpa restart (google that) .
I fear you wont come back to your base levels with results that poor, but you can only try.
you will need to find the $$$ to get your BW and pct, this wont be a cheap recovery.

[Dias_x]

it is people from here that gave him bad advice....how many times i see people saying "you gonna take D-bol alone without Test?|" "you gonna take only orals?" "you gonna do only 300-400 test E a week?". I take only orals,doing hcg ,aromasin during and nolvadex after and it is working fine. Not everyone needs injectible steroids

[MrFreshmaker]

it is people from here that gave him bad advice....how many times i see people saying "you gonna take D-bol alone without Test?|" "you gonna take only orals?" "you gonna do only 300-400 test E a week?". I take only orals,doing hcg,aromasin during and nolvadex after and it is working fine. Not everyone needs injectible steroids

Yeah and what results you had from orals?Water weight?Show us a pic.
Edit: i just went through your profile and read that you took injectible steroids ..

[TheTaxMan]

it is people from here that gave him bad advice....how many times i see people saying "you gonna take D-bol alone without Test?|" "you gonna take only orals?" "you gonna do only 300-400 test E a week?". I take only orals,doing hcg,aromasin during and nolvadex after and it is working fine. Not everyone needs injectible steroids

An avatar or pic of yourself other than an eyeball would certainly back up your statement

[kelkel]

I never used hcg before, i just used nolvadex. Im going to start the clomid/nolva pct as soon as i get it

Just go test your LH and FSH. That will indicate where the problem lies, assuming there's no sudden on-set of a pathology, hypothyroidism, etc. If LH/FSH is low then your Hypothalamus / Pituitary is not functioning properly. If it's abnormally high then your testicals are not functioning well. Either way the result is a lower than normal T level.

[aalshake]

I been on hcg and nolvadex for the past 3 weeks, i havent another blood test, but i havent improved that much, yeah i ****ed my self up pretty much, my test level will never go back to normal, my libido is still not good... im ****ed overall

[Mr.BB]

Well, you should have done what Kel said.

Depending on primary or secundary hypogonadism course of action would be different.

Taking hcg at same time as serms is not so wise.

[aalshake]

Isn't hcg supposed to help with increasing testicular production?

[Mr.BB]

Isn't hcg supposed to help with increasing testicular production?

How do you know if your problem is testicular production or pituitary LH production?

[SidVicious77]

Isn't hcg supposed to help with increasing testicular production?

Hcg mimics lh to prompt testes to produce testosterone , serms try to get your pituitary gland to produce lh - which will not work since you're already injecting a synthetic version.

[aalshake]

So which one should i use then in my case hcg or serms? Since its not wise to use them together

[Mr.BB]

So which one should i use then in my case hcg or serms? Since its not wise to use them together

You need blood work to find out which to use, as stated in above post from Kel