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    Marcus, please pm me!

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    you don't have pm and why?
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    lol ok cool, just had a couple questions for you but wanted to ask you via pm's. I've lurked on this site for many years, (since 2004 or so) and enjoy all the info. I too have received some bunk GH as well recently. Wish I would of read this thread a few weeks ago. Now I'm stuck with 3 kits which isn't much of a loss compared to other members, glad I didn't order more.

    So basically my question is, all mail order GH is bunk correct? I'm seeing some mixed info, slightly confused at this point. A couple guys saying all the GH online is basically bunk but later in the thread I see they're testing out a source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTIVATED1 View Post
    lol ok cool, just had a couple questions for you but wanted to ask you via pm's. I've lurked on this site for many years, (since 2004 or so) and enjoy all the info. I too have received some bunk GH as well recently. Wish I would of read this thread a few weeks ago. Now I'm stuck with 3 kits which isn't much of a loss compared to other members, glad I didn't order more.

    So basically my question is, all mail order GH is bunk correct? I'm seeing some mixed info, slightly confused at this point. A couple guys saying all the GH online is basically bunk but later in the thread I see they're testing out a source.
    If you get 50 posts you will open your pm's.

    Not all hgh is bunk but generics your highly likely going to get fake cheap s1t in all honesty
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    If you get 50 posts you will open your pm's. Not all hgh is bunk but generics your highly likely going to get fake cheap s1t in all honesty
    Listen to Marcus bro, I was about to order some generic Chinese hgh until I read this thread. Marcus knows his shit. The risk vs reward is too great IMO

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    I understand a lot of the suspicions of people on here regarding fake growth as we all know there is plenty about. Iv used kigtripin which was total garbage but other than that Ive had good results with riptropin back in the day, green top hyge back in the day and also the the Russian jins.

    More recently I have used 100iu Ansamone kits direct fron anekbio which I have found to be good, black too hyge which were cheap and surprisingly good. Currently im using 75iu lilly humatrope Pens and these are very very good. Blow all the others out of the water IMO so will be sticking to these from now on. They are basically double the price of the ansamone but even at 4iu a day the CTS is very prominent! My arms going dead just writing this. It has to be said that I so get these sides with the the other produxs but on double the dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by sitries View Post
    I understand a lot of the suspicions of people on here regarding fake growth as we all know there is plenty about. Iv used kigtripin which was total garbage but other than that Ive had good results with riptropin back in the day, green top hyge back in the day and also the the Russian jins.

    More recently I have used 100iu Ansamone kits direct fron anekbio which I have found to be good, black too hyge which were cheap and surprisingly good. Currently im using 75iu lilly humatrope Pens and these are very very good. Blow all the others out of the water IMO so will be sticking to these from now on. They are basically double the price of the ansamone but even at 4iu a day the CTS is very prominent! My arms going dead just writing this. It has to be said that I so get these sides with the the other produxs but on double the dose
    Is that 75ius for "A" pen? Or 7.5? I recall the pens but I thought they were around 15, but I do not remember. I only had one or two to try. They were pricey. Also, if you read way back there were numerous methods used to create a feeling of CTS and relief of joint pain with the generics. I think some were even with pain meds. There was also a number of posts regarding the ansamone. I never had any experience with the product but Marcus and others stated it was great at one time and turned bad overnight. I believe it was the noise made here to push the performance back up on their product. But I am not 100% sure what the latest has been. You cannot mistake the real over time. Man I really miss that stuff!!! Hopefully in the near future.? One of the interesting things I have noticed using HGH in low dosages for anti-aging over a long stretch of time, is the gradual improvements that just keep coming. You notice the benefits even more after not using for a very long time. Add more years with no HGH along with a lame diet and you have a balance of regression. Well I am on a mission and with or without, I am hitting it hard this year. I don't do News Years resolutions, but I do like to set goals. Good Luck
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    How do I go about doing post injection bloodworks guys? Go to my GP? Lol

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    How do I serum test as well? Any specific kits I need to buy from anywhere? I've heard about labmax kits but they're only testing UGLs I believe, not Pharma...

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    For blodwork go to *************.com. there are some states that ylu cant get bloodwork without going tbrough a doctor, but its not many.

    If you want to do a serum test. Inject 10iu intramuscular and get the blood drawn around 3 to 3.5 hours later. I would do it fasted.

    If you want to test your igf levels just make sure you have been on a stable dose for ateast 3 weeks. This test can be done anytime. GH is taken to increase igf levels, and to me this is the best indicator of quality.

    Most chinese gh is garbage. I have only seen very few generic pas hplc testing. Even though those kits passed, they may never pass testing again.

    Labmax is a kit to test steroids to see if they contain the hormone. It tells you nothing more than if the active hormone is in the vial.
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    Members thinking of buying any kind of generic hgh no matter the colour of the top or box its in should take some time reading this thread,
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Members thinking of buying any kind of generic hgh no matter the colour of the top or box its in should take some time reading this thread,
    Yea a great read. I personally have a close friend run the black tops at 10ius a day and didn't feel anything. Switched to pharma at 3ius and started to get the sides of real pharma grade hgh.

    That is the reason I stay away no matter what my supplier says about there chinese hgh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    Yea a great read. I personally have a close friend run the black tops at 10ius a day and didn't feel anything. Switched to pharma at 3ius and started to get the sides of real pharma grade hgh.

    That is the reason I stay away no matter what my supplier says about there chinese hgh.
    It always makes me laugh out loud when I read posts and they go on about the colour of the tops, black, grey,yellow, red, blue orange, white lol lol I hear the latest zebra ones are red hot and well over dosed lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    It always makes me laugh out loud when I read posts and they go on about the colour of the tops, black, grey,yellow, red, blue orange, white lol lol I hear the latest zebra ones are red hot and well over dosed lol
    It is amazing that top colors are still being spoken about as the quality of that junk. I think when garbage is sold the only way to distinguish it from the rest of the junk is stating a top color as if it is a brand. I'm surprised someone hasn't labeled a kit as being enhanced with cialis and special herbs that guarantee a woody.

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    I am looking to try hgh for theraputic reasons and I can't bear to order from my supplier because none of them are even rated. Every oil and tab on the site has ratings but not hgh. I take that to mean they are shit. I badly want to try it because I believe it could really help my joints. This is frustrating as hell. How the hell can I get this without dumping a grand on junk? I know we all have this problem but damn, there has got to be a US source that is legit. Anyone ever try sp labs hgh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    I am looking to try hgh for theraputic reasons and I can't bear to order from my supplier because none of them are even rated. Every oil and tab on the site has ratings but not hgh. I take that to mean they are shit. I badly want to try it because I believe it could really help my joints. This is frustrating as hell. How the hell can I get this without dumping a grand on junk? I know we all have this problem but damn, there has got to be a US source that is legit. Anyone ever try sp labs hgh?
    We cant give out sources pf pharm grade hgh but trust me don't even think about buying the generic Chinese shit whats knocking around no matter how desperate you are.
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    I decided to try some generic since my source has been spot on with other gear dating back to remote cycles (I had a long hiatus) to present. I started at 4iu/d and maintained and was getting a bit of bloat and waking up every night for the first several months with my hands numb and tingling if my wrists were bent at all. This finally leveled off but when bumped to 6iu/d symptoms returned. After using for more than 6mos I notice some subtle changes in bf (in conjunction with diet) and some striations (mild as I am pretty endomorphic by nature) both of which I feel are slightly more than diet/lifting results. I had my labs checked a couple of times and IGF-1 was elevated into mid/high 300s, and low 100s prior.

    I think I got lucky but because I have seen and read nothing but negative experiences I have worried at some point I will get bunk and question whether or not to continue even though economical. Not really interested in running bunk for months before I find out, nor even days for that matter.

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    What's your opinion on jintropin? I live in Hong Kong and bought Jintropin from a local Pharmacy(Had to place an order 2 days in advance online before they gave it to me)
    I ran it at 4IU ED, It dissolved exactly like you with white flakes at the bottom etc etc.
    I wanted to know, Does HGH really make you gain water weight in a few days? I was up 2KG within the first week and that was all water, my entire face blew up, family members were asking me why my face was swollen etc.
    Skin felt kinda good, not impressive.
    My question is was it real?
    I ran it for 2 months max(I know i have to run it for 6 months+ but i just couldn't take it anymore, the water weight went all to my face and was just unpleasant)

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    I'm guessing fake, I have a line from one of the biggest sources out there that sells jintropin so cheap it must be fake. Oddly many people swear by this source but usually the instant bloating is not a good sign as far as I know.
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    If you read back in this thread and it's so long I can't remember where, but that water retention equals junk. I do not live in Hong Kong, but I had Jin from China and I live in US and it had all authentication codes and appeared real, but I had fake. If it were real, you would know it. Also, HGH does not work really fast and it is a product that keeps working better over time. I kept taking more only to gain more water then I scrapped it. At least you realize the water weight does not seem right. I think the strategy for the water gain is many feel thy just gained size and it's working.
    Quote Originally Posted by Men in Black View Post
    What's your opinion on jintropin? I live in Hong Kong and bought Jintropin from a local Pharmacy(Had to place an order 2 days in advance online before they gave it to me)
    I ran it at 4IU ED, It dissolved exactly like you with white flakes at the bottom etc etc.
    I wanted to know, Does HGH really make you gain water weight in a few days? I was up 2KG within the first week and that was all water, my entire face blew up, family members were asking me why my face was swollen etc.
    Skin felt kinda good, not impressive.
    My question is was it real?
    I ran it for 2 months max(I know i have to run it for 6 months+ but i just couldn't take it anymore, the water weight went all to my face and was just unpleasant)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I'm guessing fake, I have a line from one of the biggest sources out there that sells jintropin so cheap it must be fake. Oddly many people swear by this source but usually the instant bloating is not a good sign as far as I know.
    Quote Originally Posted by EasyDoesIt View Post
    If you read back in this thread and it's so long I can't remember where, but that water retention equals junk. I do not live in Hong Kong, but I had Jin from China and I live in US and it had all authentication codes and appeared real, but I had fake. If it were real, you would know it. Also, HGH does not work really fast and it is a product that keeps working better over time. I kept taking more only to gain more water then I scrapped it. At least you realize the water weight does not seem right. I think the strategy for the water gain is many feel thy just gained size and it's working.
    I feel like I might have been Injecting estrogen powder then if it made me gain water weight like that
    Was it is estrogen? What was it? I didn't get any pimples or fatter tho so what was I injecting tbh?
    Btw what are your thoughts on Pfizer genotropin
    If I order it from a mate who lives overseas, will it get damaged through shipping or handling etc cuz I read hgh is extrmely delicate and can die quickly

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    I doubt it was estrogen, but who knows what they put in it. Here in the US real Pharm HGH is obtainable through some anti-aging clinics. Also, Serostim is obtained through a script as a medical treatment for aids patients, what they do with it I don't know, but somehow it has to originate from a script. So the only way to obtain real pharm here is from those scripts. Genetropin is suppose to be great, I just find it hard that the real stuff is obtainable without first coming from a script. I doubt the pharm companies are letting it slip out the back door of the warehouse. That is my opinion on obtaining real. As stated I am in the US and that is the way it works here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Men in Black View Post
    I feel like I might have been Injecting estrogen powder then if it made me gain water weight like that
    Was it is estrogen? What was it? I didn't get any pimples or fatter tho so what was I injecting tbh?
    Btw what are your thoughts on Pfizer genotropin
    If I order it from a mate who lives overseas, will it get damaged through shipping or handling etc cuz I read hgh is extrmely delicate and can die quickly

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    HGH is too expensive to screw around with non rated sources, even at underground prices. I am waiting and reading for 1 year before I jump in. Right now doing fine on low test cyp weekly.. Thanks for great read/info guys.

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    What's peoples opinion on Ansamone? From Nancy at Ankebio? Apologies if its been mentioned in this thread already

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    Quote Originally Posted by nba2005uk View Post
    What's peoples opinion on Ansamone? From Nancy at Ankebio? Apologies if its been mentioned in this thread already
    Not to be trusted plesse read the thread all will be revesled
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