first cycle Test-E only 600mg weekly

[tony_theturtle]

what going on guys so I decided to start my first cycle a couple weeks ago.
Stats:
25 years old
210lbs
6’1”
Body fat: ??
Squat 1rm: 315lbs
Deadlift 1rm: 485lbs
Bench 1mr: 235lbs (terrible I know)
So briefly let me explain how this cycle started. I was given a chance to get my hands on some anavar real cheap from a buddy and decided that I should go for it since he was seeing great results from it. So I started a VAR only cycle (in my 4th weeks now). I know VAR only cycles are frowned upon and since decided to throw some Test- E in the mix. I know I’m ass backwards here. Anyways here how my cycle is looking.
Week 1-6 var 60mg daily
Week 3-13 Test- E 300 e3d
Armidex week 3-13 .25mg eod
Pct will be clomid and nolva

I will post some before pics later tonight.

[tony_theturtle]

[tony_theturtle]

my first pin was monday night next pin is tomorrow morning. I pinned with a 23g needle 300mg.. injection was pain less. but i still feel a little pip in my glute

[Back In Black]

No HCG ?

Run your AI up until pct starts.

What exactly is your PTC protocol?

If you got some anavar real cheap I would doubt that it actually is var at all, it's an expensive compound.

[tony_theturtle]

No HCG ?

Run your AI up until pct starts.

What exactly is your PTC protocol?

If you got some anavar real cheap I would doubt that it actually is var at all, it's an expensive compound.

no hcg, can't find any.

pct plans
W 13 Nolva 20mg 2x/d and Clomid 50mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Nolva 20mg/d and Clomid 25mg/d

cheap anavar meaning a bit cheap than usual, the anavar still cost more than my whole test-e cycle with ai.

I will take your advice and run AI up until pct, Thanx !

[tony_theturtle]

Second pin was this morning in right glute. Injection was perfect no pain no bleeding. The armidex that I have is 1mg capsules. So I’m probably just going to take .5mg e3.5d 5 to make it easier. Would that be a problem ? thanks

[PistolPete33]

Look harder to find HCG . My first cycle I didn't use it and I'm convinced that's why I'm on TRT 4 years later.

[tony_theturtle]

were your test levels fine before cycle?

[tony_theturtle]

did a little meal prepping yesterday

[PistolPete33]

were your test levels fine before cycle?

Everything was great. It was about a year later where I just felt like total shit and had bloodwork redone and that's where I found the problem. Being on TRT is a pain in the ass esp. when you're travelling. It's not the end of the world but def. a major inconvenience.

[tony_theturtle]

Yeah I rather not risk it, I was able to find some hcg ! Should have it in a couple days, is week 4 good time to start introducing it into my system ? Or should I start now ?

[tony_theturtle]

so i caught the flu yesterday. so won't be lifting tip monday night. yesterday i only got in like a 1000 calories. hoping to stay on track today. my third pin is tomorrow night

[tony_theturtle]

I’m 90 percent better from the flu so back to the gym finally. Legs and delts today. I've been fighting off tendonitis in my triceps so hopefully all goes well it’s been a rough start.

[< <Samson> >]

HCG is not a must, don't freak

It does help though, at least from what I can tell. I ran a few cycles without, now I won't. Biggest diff I have noticed is the nut size and density. As far as recovery, I have no clue. Since it's dirt cheap there's no reason not to use it

If it is legit var, I would run it at the end of cycle


I shot you an email through your profile since you can't get PM's yet

[tony_theturtle]

Good to know man thanks for your input. I haven’t received any emails.

Yesterday was legs and shoulders. I haven’t seen much progress, well nothing that can’t be made naturally. I have been a lot more focused in the gym though. I can’t wait for the Test to start kicking in already. My elbows we a little bothersome yesterday so I didn’t much free weight in. mainly stuck to the isolateral machine. I’m hitting back and biceps today after work. Also, I started taking a liver supp to help out since I’m taking a lot of var and other pills. Hopefully that’ll help keep everything in check. Also Im going to read up on proper use of the hcg to make sure I’m doing everything correctly before I implement it into my cycle.

[< <Samson> >]

You have a PM since now it seems that you can receive them

[tony_theturtle]

Day 10. I did some more meal prepping yesterday. My diet has been pretty good minus the occasionally coke here and there. Not sure if it’s the VAR but I’ve been pretty bummed out lately. I can’t get excited or motivated to do anything which is not like me at all. Hopefully it’s just a rough patch. but I’m almost finished with the var and the test should be kicking in in a couple of weeks. Hitting Back and Biceps today!

[zdem]

How were the results from the Var? im thinking of adding it to the end of my Test Cycle

[tony_theturtle]

How were the results from the Var? im thinking of adding it to the end of my Test Cycle

honestly man i didnt see much from it. Besides some good pumps and testicle atrophy. I probably wont use it again. Ive read thread about it and know a bunch of people who used var and got good results. I think its just hit or miss depending on the person.

[tony_theturtle]

day 15. yesterday was my fifth pin (left glute) no longer getting pip which is good. feeling much a bit stronger in the gym. I think its a placebo effect but whatever works.

[zdem]

honestly man i didnt see much from it. Besides some good pumps and testicle atrophy. I probably wont use it again. Ive read thread about it and know a bunch of people who used var and got good results. I think its just hit or miss depending on the person.

Yea its about getting a good batch too. Dbol is the same way. Both can be mimicked and underdosed. Hope this cycle goes well. Ill be keeping up with the log I'm on week 5 right now, nothing major yet hoping the next week or two.

[tony_theturtle]

no homo but has your libido gone up at all yet ?

[zdem]

no homo but has your libido gone up at all yet ?

Yea Absolutley. Started to go up within a week or two. But I'm always horny to be honest just even more now Lol

[Lee_1978]

What are the advantages of using Var at the end of the cycle, out of interest?

[Deequarius]

Good luck on your cycle! It is a little different than the usual var/test e cycle but nonetheless I hope it works out for you!

[tony_theturtle]

What are the advantages of using Var at the end of the cycle, out of interest?

the var dries out your muscles makes you leaner. most poeple use it as cutting AAS towards the end to cut down water wieght and body fat

[tony_theturtle]

Good luck on your cycle! It is a little different than the usual var/test e cycle but nonetheless I hope it works out for you!

thanx man.. yeah i kind of jumped the gun a bit lol

[tony_theturtle]

Day 22: my 7th injection was yesterday, I’m definitely starting to feel stronger.
Bench press: then 235lbsx1 now 245lbsx2
Deadlift: then 485lbsx1 now 495lbsx2
Squat: 315lbsx1 now 335lbsx1
I’m happy with the strength gains. I’m also getting thicker though I have put on some extra body fat. I might cut the calories back a bit. Ill upload some progress pics in a bit