Cycles for the Newbie

[TheMudMan]

Cycles for the Newbie

Written by TheMudMan

Here is a person that I feel is ready to run their first cycle. A person that has reached at least the age 21 (IMO 25 is a better age), has their diet and training in check, and has also researched enough about AAS to not have to ask all the "newbie questions. Remember this is your body and these drugs that you're ingesting and injecting have both good and bad side effects.

Here are some cycles to consider for a first time user of AAS. All cycles should be based off of test. But before jumping into one of these cycles please do your research. Remember with the good comes the bad. The bad being side effects from the use of AAS. I will not go into them here but if you do your homework you will know what sides you may see and how to avoid them.

I’m a firm believer in starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. This will allow more then enough time to get blood levels peaked. Also, I would also suggest running a SERM (Nolvadex ) and AI (arimidex , proviron , femera) together through the cycle.

These are just a few of the many combinations of compounds that can be used in a first cycle. I feel that D-bol, EQ, and Winny are all very good to add to a first cycle to help things along but they are not necessary. I also feel that a long acting ester test is best for a first or even a second cycle. The reason is because of the amount of injections that are required by SUS, Prop, and Suspension.

Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 2:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 3:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 4:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 5:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 6:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 7:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
11 – 12 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 8:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
11 – 13 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 9:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 10:
1 – 12 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 400mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 weeks after last Cyp / Enan injection

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

Cycle 12:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
8 – 13 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

[yooo]

Definately the newest addition to the stickies.

[BUYLONGTERM]

As always, fantastic post bro!!!!!

[tryingtogetbig]

bump

[dogsofwar]

Good post brutha. I will save this one.

[TheMudMan]

Thanks guys........

[AandF6969]

Good post bro

[cb25]

Fantastic post...

i like #9

[MotoLifter]

**** that **** was STICKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Very nice brotha.

[damian]

great job...as always....sure sticky s**t.....it should be around long time ago....

[Blown_SC]

Nice... ....

[yooo]

Bump for mukkler

[mukkler]

Bump for mukkler

thanks

This looks like my cycle:

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

But I dont understand..

What will i do first week?? Should i start with enanthate at the same time as nolva + ldex ? Or do you mean that this is how i dot it:

Week 1,2: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25mg ED
Week 3 - 8: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 500mg Enanthate.
Week 9 - 12: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 500mg Enanthate, 50mg winstrol
Week 13 - 14: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 50mg winstrol
Week 15 - 17: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED

Week 18: PCT:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Yeah.. im sorry.. im a slow learner

[TheMudMan]

thanks

This looks like my cycle:

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

But I dont understand..

What will i do first week?? Should i start with enanthate at the same time as nolva + ldex ? Or do you mean that this is how i dot it:

Week 1,2: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25mg ED
Week 3 - 8: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 500mg Enanthate.
Week 9 - 12: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 500mg Enanthate, 50mg winstrol
Week 13 - 14: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED, 50mg winstrol
Week 15 - 17: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED

Week 18: PCT:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Yeah.. im sorry.. im a slow learner

That's looks good to me.

[UnNaturalBuff]

good post, oughta stop alota same old newbie posts

[Monkeytown]

Coming from a newbie, this really helps.

BTW...what if I tried....?

Just kidding!

[not2bigyet]

good post, oughta stop alota same old newbie posts

if only that were true...they're like the plague

great post bro!

[*Narkissos*]

good post, oughta stop alota same old newbie posts

IF we can get them to read it

Nice work TMM

[Triposinator]

Wishful thinking

But dreaming is fine

good post, oughta stop alota same old newbie posts

[almostgone]

Glue it to the top!!!!

[almostgone]

..And I like how the PCT time is listed for each cycle depending upon the ester length..
this goes on the old hard drive

[TheMudMan]

Bump

[ImmmtheIceman]

Awesome post brutha...just one question. I didnt understand why the first cycle you have 500mg of eth and then only 400mg of cyp for the second cycle. I figured they are enough alike that it should be the other way around? could you please explain this

[TheMudMan]

Awesome post brutha...just one question. I didnt understand why the first cycle you have 500mg of eth and then only 400mg of cyp for the second cycle. I figured they are enough alike that it should be the other way around? could you please explain this

Thanks......

I did this because most Cyp will come dosed at 200mg per ml and Enan is 250mg per ml. I just feel this would make it easier to dose for someone new to AAS.

Also, IMO 400mg is the minimum I would use with test.

[dannyboy62682]

great post, hope some will read this before posting for cycle advice. You can get any better than that info right there!

[inheritmylife]

The only thing that I can add is that maybe the enenthate would be better suited at 400mg, and the cypionate at 500 due to the esterweights.

Great post!

[Tribex]

The mudman has done it again. Awesomeness bro. That should help out a lot of confused newcomers.

[Jrock79]

Great post man.

[ImmmtheIceman]

Good to know, makes more sense now. What about using cyp for the first cycle at 400mg of cyp then for the second cycle going 500mg of eth, or do you think this wouldnt make much of a difference?

[TheMudMan]

Good to know, makes more sense now. What about using cyp for the first cycle at 400mg of cyp then for the second cycle going 500mg of eth, or do you think this wouldnt make much of a difference?

I feel it makes not much of a difference if any....... If someone feels they want to run 500mg of Cyp then that's fine because what I put here is for reference and can be changed a bit to suit your goals and needs. But 400 to 500mg of test is the norm for a first cycle.




Thanks everyone!

[Z-Ro]

good post Mud, bump!!!

[styles-money]

Great post...bump

One question Mud, what's the purpose of running the A-Dex and Nolva 1 week longer than the Clomid. I have a vague memory, and can't seem to find anything on it now...LOL

[TheMudMan]

Great post...bump

One question Mud, what's the purpose of running the A-Dex and Nolva 1 week longer than the Clomid. I have a vague memory, and can't seem to find anything on it now...LOL

I do it just in case of a rebound effects.

[almostgone]

el bump-a-rola......

[builtthekid]

Good post man

[TheMudMan]

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[Testostack]

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Just wanted to be sure.......
i'm a slow learner too , that'd make for my Test e only cycle:

Week 1,2: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25mg ED
Week 3 - 12: 500mg Test E, Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED.
Week 14: PCT

PCT:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

I don't want Clomid!! what could i replace it with?
And what about proviron ? heard that it works great w/ test.......should i use it and when?
Thx though for your post.

[danephillips]

Never a needle !! Never !!

[alltherage]

Never a needle !! Never !!

If your serious about that I wouldn't do A S, everyone I've heard says do orals if you want to die young. I mainly stick my quads and butt, I don't like shoulder's because I've hit a vien too many times and I'll get a wierd feeling for a few weeks while I'm lifting. It doesn't hurt at all, you just have to put it in like a dart, it's not even something that makes me cringe, just don't hesitate. Oh yeah combine your test with your winny lOL then see if you want to do winny. I combined it and never again, I'll do the winny separate, but it went well with npp, but test it was like I couldn't move my shoulder, my buddy had the same thing with his quad. OUCH!!!!

[SMYL_GR8]

Thanks, Mud. Great setups for a Newbie. Just when I think I got my first cycle planned, I read something that makes me tweak it a little. I was already planning on doing your #3, but never thought of starting Nolva and Ldex 2 weeks prior. #3 #9 and #11 are similar. How do I choose b/w D-Bol, Eq and Winny in these stacks? Thanks Bro.