tyson vs ali

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 12:10 PM

who would win out of the two tyson and mohammed ali
i would say tyson
changed my mind to ali

**Hackamaniac** · 09-03-2006, 12:12 PM

In there primes I don't really know....I think Ali faught better fighters but Tyson could knock anyone out...I have to think about this lol..

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 12:16 PM

tyson has the brain of a mouse,thats his problem
on the other hand ali is smart and more powerfull
id say ali would take him down easy hes a LEGEND

tyson scares people to death before he gets into a fight, thats how he wins
again on the other hand ali is not scared of anyone

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson has the brain of a mouse,thats his problem
on the other hand ali is smart and more powerfull
id say ali would take him down easy hes a LEGEND

tyson scares people to death before he gets into a fight, thats how he wins
again on the other hand ali is not scared of anyone

more powerful!? i beg to differ

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by italianplayboy09

more powerful!? i beg to differ

u see tyson stronger because hes aggresive
ali uses intelligence, and he is more powerfull

**rar1015** · 09-03-2006, 12:31 PM

I think Ali would take it. He was a much smarter fighter IMO.

**Hackamaniac** · 09-03-2006, 12:35 PM

Tyson was the more powerfull fighter..Ali was more elegant dancing type boxer...Tyson was a puncher..

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Hackamaniac

Tyson was the more powerfull fighter..Ali was more elegant dancing type boxer...Tyson was a puncher..

exactly

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 12:39 PM

ali would out box tyson but if tyson got a good clean shot with one of his uppercuts it could be devastating

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Hackamaniac

Tyson was the more powerfull fighter..Ali was more elegant dancing type boxer...Tyson was a puncher..

tyson isa boxer,,, ali is a fighter

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by italianplayboy09

ali would out box tyson but if tyson got a good clean shot with one of his uppercuts it could be devastating

true but chance of this happening 1% or less
ali is fast

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson isa boxer,,, ali is a fighter

other way around

**Hackamaniac** · 09-03-2006, 12:54 PM

Ali boxer
Tyson puncer

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hackamaniac

Ali boxer
Tyson puncer

even better stated

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:00 PM

Both in prime, Tyson hands down.

I saw too many Ali fights where he just dance around his opponent, and never punched near as hard as tyson.

Theres no dancing around Tyson. He came out blazing. Ali would be down in 3, maybe less.

Tyson was a beast and could take hits like no other man, hell, Tyson wasnt a man...a ****ing animal.

**Kärnfysikern** · 09-03-2006, 01:12 PM

I dont know the first thing about boxing. But watching tyson in his prime was just awsome. Like watching jaws when he comes from below and **** you up.

Seems like tyson lost his ability to move and started relying on just punching hard?

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Both in prime, Tyson hands down.

I saw too many Ali fights where he just dance around his opponent, and never punched near as hard as tyson.

Theres no dancing around Tyson. He came out blazing. Ali would be down in 3, maybe less.
Tyson was a beast and could take hits like no other man, hell, Tyson wasnt a man...a ****ing animal.

did you forget how great of a chin ali had? i know i know tyson had devastating punches and i understand that 100% but ali was an all out boxer. he knew how to use the ring to his advantage. im a tyson guy dont get me wrong but saying ali would be out in 3 maybe less is not exactly how i would see it

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:37 PM

lol, ok...4, maybe 5.

RA · 09-03-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by johan

I dont know the first thing about boxing. But watching tyson in his prime was just awsome. Like watching jaws when he comes from below and **** you up.

Seems like tyson lost his ability to move and started relying on just punching hard?

He lost his trainer and started training his own way..your right, he stopped moving and just stood there trying to knock ppl out in the first round. He could have been one of the all time greats.

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

lol, ok...4, maybe 5.

noway
let me tell u what would happen exactly if they fought
tyson would be dreaming of biting moe's ear and then BANG hes on the floor

**chest6** · 09-03-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson has the brain of a mouse,thats his problem
on the other hand ali is smart and more powerfull
id say ali would take him down easy hes a LEGEND

tyson scares people to death before he gets into a fight, thats how he wins
again on the other hand ali is not scared of anyone

I disagree.

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by roidattack

He lost his trainer and started training his own way..your right, he stopped moving and just stood there trying to knock ppl out in the first round. He could have been one of the all time greats.

i think he is in boxing fan's eyes...he was the youngest person to ever win a belt(i think he was 18 or 20 im not sure) and held it for many years, not consecutively but overall. he is an all time great for me

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

noway
let me tell u what would happen exactly if they fought
tyson would be dreaming of biting moe's ear and then BANG hes on the floor

Nah, not in his prime. Tyson started acting crazy later on in life.

Ali wouldnt stand much of a chance...Tyson was a bad, nasty mofo

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Nah, not in his prime. Tyson started acting crazy later on in life.

Ali wouldnt stand much of a chance...Tyson was a bad, nasty mofo

he was but now youre talking like ali wasnt shyt

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by italianplayboy09

he was but now youre talking like ali wasnt shyt

Ali was good, but up against Tyson, I dont think he wouldve won. JMO.

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 01:51 PM

tyson might look stronger
but if u put moe with tyson in the ring
moe would win due to agility and sharp fast accurate punches
while tyson would stand in one place waiting to get that one deadly punch

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson might look stronger
but if u put moe with tyson in the ring
moe would win due to agility and sharp fast accurate punches
while tyson would stand in one place waiting to get that one deadly punch

Have you not seen Tyson in his prime? The reason why he had knockouts all in the first round? He came out attacking. You have to move to attack. I just watched tyson knockouts on ESPN classic, and he came out alive and moving. Someone that fast, agressive, strong, and tough.

Ali just danced around, but Tyson moved with a purpose. Agressiveness

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 01:55 PM

btw does anyone have wallpapers of them

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 01:56 PM

Just google image search them. Im sure they will be there.

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Have you not seen Tyson in his prime? The reason why he had knockouts all in the first round? He came out attacking. You have to move to attack. I just watched tyson knockouts on ESPN classic, and he came out alive and moving. Someone that fast, agressive, strong, and tough.

Ali just danced around, but Tyson moved with a purpose. Agressiveness

tyson depends on fear and agressivnes thats how he wins, he scare others to death before fighting
while ali wouldnt do this, he thought he was invincible and thats how he gained confidence that made him a legend

**kyjelly** · 09-03-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson depends on fear and agressivnes thats how he wins, he scare others to death before fighting
while ali wouldnt do this, he thought he was invincible and thats how he gained confidence that made him a legend

lol keyword...THOUGHT

but yes, legend nontheless...

I would like to see it, if somehow it was possible.

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

lol keyword...THOUGHT

but yes, legend nontheless...

I would like to see it, if somehow it was possible.

yes , he couldnt actually be invincible

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by stewie

tyson depends on fear and agressivnes thats how he wins, he scare others to death before fighting
while ali wouldnt do this, he thought he was invincible and thats how he gained confidence that made him a legend

yea but without saying a word...he was probably the most intimidating fighter of all time IMO

**scriptfactory** · 09-03-2006, 02:10 PM

If both were in their prime I believe Tyson would have the advantage. Look at the footage from the "Rumble in the Jungle". Ali needed a strategy against George Foreman who was also a very powerful puncher so he invented the "rope-a-dope." Does anyone really think the "rope-a-dope" would be effective against Mike Tyson? I mean, I believe Tyson has more power than Foreman had. Tyson would come in and pepper him with 2 and 3-hit combinations. Every one of those punches would be delivered with devastating power. If Ali dropped his guard for even a second he would be put in SERIOUS trouble. Either fighter would have a good chance of winning but I give the advantage to Tyson.

**italianplayboy09** · 09-03-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

If both were in their prime I believe Tyson would have the advantage. Look at the footage from the "Rumble in the Jungle". Ali needed a strategy against George Foreman who was also a very powerful puncher so he invented the "rope-a-dope." Does anyone really think the "rope-a-dope" would be effective against Mike Tyson? I mean, I believe Tyson has more power than Foreman had. Tyson would come in and pepper him with 2 and 3-hit combinations. Every one of those punches would be delivered with devastating power. If Ali dropped his guard for even a second he would be put in SERIOUS trouble. Either fighter would have a good chance of winning but I give the advantage to Tyson.

great point..but in all honesty ali would be smart enough not to pull the rope-a-dope against a tyson caliber fighter. ali knew that foreman would tire himself out and then ali could attack. the thing was that ali didnt know foreman would last for as long as he did. but i think tyson would pull it out, like i said im a tyson guy

**scriptfactory** · 09-03-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by italianplayboy09

great point..but in all honesty ali would be smart enough not to pull the rope-a-dope against a tyson caliber fighter. ali knew that foreman would tire himself out and then ali could attack. the thing was that ali didnt know foreman would last for as long as he did. but i think tyson would pull it out, like i said im a tyson guy

Hopefully. It would definitely be an interesting fight no matter who won. I would pay a LOT of money to see it.

**stewie** · 09-03-2006, 02:52 PM

feel sad for ali
parkinsons!!
hes a great guy for controlling his pain and how he suffers
true man

**Slick Arrado** · 09-03-2006, 03:04 PM

Ali could take a punch, plus he was the better technician(although I don't think Tyson gets enough credit for his boxing skills). So, I'd say Ali via UD.