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    Quote Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
    I loved this exchange b/c even if it made Cruise look wierd, he doesn't care as long as someone got the message that these ADD drugs are CATEGORY II NARCOTICS. Does anyone here with kids want to put them on narcotics? We do it b'c psychiatrists say we should. Chemical imbalance? Prove it. They can't. They just draw fancy illustrations to put in magazine ads for their drugs.

    I get kids off these drugs and turn them into straight A students drug-free, so call Tom werd and bash Scientology, but one day you might be in a horrific car wreck and your ER doc who saves your life may be one of the many kids that are turned into A students w/o drugs by those you bash.
    There are a lot of drugs that have similar properties to chemicals we deem as bad. - People abuse them - but this is true for all things.

    I know the differences these drugs make in the lives of some, including my self. My proof is in my own life.

    Man scientology really is a cult..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
    I loved this exchange b/c even if it made Cruise look wierd, he doesn't care as long as someone got the message that these ADD drugs are CATEGORY II NARCOTICS. Does anyone here with kids want to put them on narcotics? We do it b'c psychiatrists say we should. Chemical imbalance? Prove it. They can't. They just draw fancy illustrations to put in magazine ads for their drugs.

    I get kids off these drugs and turn them into straight A students drug-free, so call Tom werd and bash Scientology, but one day you might be in a horrific car wreck and your ER doc who saves your life may be one of the many kids that are turned into A students w/o drugs by those you bash.
    The funny thing is I've seen this narcotics help people with ADD. One guy, who was around 30, has had a problem with ADD for his entire life. He said it feels like he has to process everything that goes on around him at once. He's been through all kinds of treatments but these meds actually help him. Just because they are stimulants doesn't mean they don't help...

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    I agree with a lot of what he said. People are too hooked up on listening to doctors prescribing bullshit drugs to treat bullshit "disorders".

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    Scientology is a joke.


    Just like Tom Cruise is.

    Everyone cares to much.

    My cousin just had a baby boy, how come she isnt on the news.

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    I really love how everyone worries about Tom and Katie's baby, or brad and Angelina. Give me an efin break man. The world is about to go to hell in a handbasket. War and corruption is everywhere. The AIDS epidemic is greater than ever. So many people die of starvation everyday. Natural disasters are tearing the earth apart.

    And we worry about some moron's baby. Get a grip. And I wont limit it to American's, cause exploitation is everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slob
    start up an a-r fund to fly me over to the USA so I can punch him in the face.

    ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre
    I really love how everyone worries about Tom and Katie's baby, or brad and Angelina. Give me an efin break man. The world is about to go to hell in a handbasket. War and corruption is everywhere. The AIDS epidemic is greater than ever. So many people die of starvation everyday. Natural disasters are tearing the earth apart.

    And we worry about so moron's baby. Get a grip.
    ya, no shit...it's like, get outta here!! Its nuts the amount of money they are willing to spend to get the "first" shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    I agree with a lot of what he said. People are too hooked up on listening to doctors prescribing bullshit drugs to treat bullshit "disorders".
    You really don't know what you are talking about. I've met people with these "bullshit disorders" that had the short term memory of people with extreme brain damage. These same people took adderall or ritalin and they were almost like geniuses with photographic memories compared to how they were before. These drugs ARE NOT CURES. No one is saying that. These drugs are crutches to help otherwise handicapped people function like normal human beings. If you had one of these "bullshit disorders" you would probably be singing a different tune.

    Most of the drugs that are out there aren't cures. That doesn't stop anyone from taking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    You really don't know what you are talking about. I've met people with these "bullshit disorders" that had the short term memory of people with extreme brain damage. These same people took adderall or ritalin and they were almost like geniuses with photographic memories compared to how they were before. These drugs ARE NOT CURES. No one is saying that. These drugs are crutches to help otherwise handicapped people function like normal human beings. If you had one of these "bullshit disorders" you would probably be singing a different tune.

    Most of the drugs that are out there aren't cures. That doesn't stop anyone from taking them.

    I have ADHD and Yes i could live without ritalin - but the quality of life i have would be different. I'm like a kitten with strings - my attention span is that of a young child. Does it make me smarter NO.. but what it does do is allow me to work and achieve my full potential. Rialin helps to kepe me on play rather than fast forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slob
    start up an a-r fund to fly me over to the USA so I can punch him in the face.
    Hopefully all of them. They all deserve to be puched in the face.
    Tom Cruise : fbeing creepy Tom Cruise
    Katie : for having Tom's baby
    Baby : for being Tom's son

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    i think its pretty cute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timm1704
    eh, kid would go well on a sandwich

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDeity
    thats Dawsons kid, may even be Pacys
    It's gotta be that guy in your avatar's kid

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    might be someone elses son.

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    bottom line: scientology is just a fancy form of atheism and tom cruise is a fukkin joke/dipshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    You really don't know what you are talking about. I've met people with these "bullshit disorders" that had the short term memory of people with extreme brain damage. These same people took adderall or ritalin and they were almost like geniuses with photographic memories compared to how they were before. These drugs ARE NOT CURES. No one is saying that. These drugs are crutches to help otherwise handicapped people function like normal human beings. If you had one of these "bullshit disorders" you would probably be singing a different tune.

    Most of the drugs that are out there aren't cures. That doesn't stop anyone from taking them.
    Yes I don't know what I'm talking about apart from the fact my son is ADHD and we spent many agonizing hours deciding whether we should let him take ritalin as the doctor reccomended after spending 20minutes "diagnosing" him or if it would be better to treat him using good diet and firm boundaries and a loving home life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    Yes I don't know what I'm talking about apart from the fact my son is ADHD and we spent many agonizing hours deciding whether we should let him take ritalin as the doctor reccomended after spending 20minutes "diagnosing" him or if it would be better to treat him using good diet and firm boundaries and a loving home life.
    I'm really sorry, man. I didn't know that about your son. I know it was a hard decision for you.

    Even so, I've seen the drugs work on people with ADD/ADHD. It's your choice, of course, as to whether or not your son takes these meds. I just don't want you to think these are "bullshit disorders" because people suffer from them every day. The drugs they take also help them lead normal lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    Yes I don't know what I'm talking about apart from the fact my son is ADHD and we spent many agonizing hours deciding whether we should let him take ritalin as the doctor reccomended after spending 20minutes "diagnosing" him or if it would be better to treat him using good diet and firm boundaries and a loving home life.
    It's not a first option, your correct.

    I have dealt with ADHD for my entire life and i have not been on ritalin for all of it BTW.

    But id agree with scriptfactory - medication does make lives a lot better - if truly necessary. sometimes job changes or life changes make issues stand out a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    The drugs they take also help them lead normal lives.
    correct.

    i think that's where the problem lies. Is that for someone who takes these meds and doesn't really require them - it makes them feel like superman , able to do things 10 times as fast etc..

    But for someone who actually has ADD/ADHD - these medications give one the ability to function like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    I'm really sorry, man. I didn't know that about your son. I know it was a hard decision for you.

    Even so, I've seen the drugs work on people with ADD/ADHD. It's your choice, of course, as to whether or not your son takes these meds. I just don't want you to think these are "bullshit disorders" because people suffer from them every day. The drugs they take also help them lead normal lives.
    No worries mate. Sorry to sound off at ya! I've got real problems with Doctors diagnosing people and prescribing drugs as a first option. We were not given other options such as dietry advice and some coping skills for him and us. IMO Doctors want to fill everyone full of pills and get them out of the surgery as quick as possible, like a production line. I also think Doctors try and label people. Just because my son is slightly different to the other kids in his class he is ADHD, I call it being an individual. He is funny and sensitive but does struggle with concentration ect. Some of the kids are great at concentrating but are cold hearted spoilt brats apparently they are "normal". Anyway Im ranting off topic - Yes Tom cruise is a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Leftfoot
    bottom line: scientology is just a fancy form of atheism and tom cruise is a fukkin joke/dipshit.
    Atheism? Bottom Line: You have no idea what you're talking about.

    That "dipshit" is almost a billionaire and has done things you can only dream to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    I'm really sorry, man. I didn't know that about your son. I know it was a hard decision for you.

    Even so, I've seen the drugs work on people with ADD/ADHD. It's your choice, of course, as to whether or not your son takes these meds. I just don't want you to think these are "bullshit disorders" because people suffer from them every day. The drugs they take also help them lead normal lives.
    You're right. They do, BUT they are not caused by a chemical imbalance so taking NARCOTICS that create a chemical imbalance is not a definitive solution.

    Of course the meds help. If I wasn't sleeping enough b/c of a circadian arrythmia, I could just do some coke and never be tired. Problem solved!

    If I had ED or loss of desire, well, just pop some viagra and ecstasy and I'd be good to go!

    You (not you specifically) keep advocating meds while others use ways to SOLVE these problems, not just control them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
    Atheism? Bottom Line: You have no idea what you're talking about.

    That "dipshit" is almost a billionaire and has done things you can only dream to.
    Yeah, like jump on Oprah's couch and not get shot!

    If I'm not mistaken scientology believes an ancient alien race is the "God" we're looking for correct?

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    LMFAO @ Scientology

    A Sci-Fi author created a religion and dumbasses actually follow it...imagine that.

    What's next, a whole group of people leaving to go live in middle earth?
    ***No source checks!!!***

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    hahahaha
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    Just wait till he's a teen and writes his first book. "My Gay Dad"

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    LMFAO @ Scientology

    A Sci-Fi author created a religion and dumbasses actually follow it...imagine that.

    What's next, a whole group of people leaving to go live in middle earth?
    if you ever want to get a good lagh, do some research and see what these cooks actualy believe, it is crazy. i think you are better off believing in santa claus and the easter bunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Yeah, like jump on Oprah's couch and not get shot!

    If I'm not mistaken scientology believes an ancient alien race is the "God" we're looking for correct?
    I'm not sure. I don't know evrything about it. I never read Dianetics and any source OTHER than the "church" itself is unreliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
    You're right. They do, BUT they are not caused by a chemical imbalance so taking NARCOTICS that create a chemical imbalance is not a definitive solution.

    Of course the meds help. If I wasn't sleeping enough b/c of a circadian arrythmia, I could just do some coke and never be tired. Problem solved!

    If I had ED or loss of desire, well, just pop some viagra and ecstasy and I'd be good to go!

    You (not you specifically) keep advocating meds while others use ways to SOLVE these problems, not just control them.
    Except ritalin doesn't make me high or even wake me up, it put me's on play instead of fast forward.

    Just because they haven't found the cause of ADHD - there is alot of evidence to show that medication does alleviate symtoms those with the disorder actually have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    Except ritalin doesn't make me high or even wake me up, it put me's on play instead of fast forward.

    Just because they haven't found the cause of ADHD - there is alot of evidence to show that medication does alleviate symtoms those with the disorder actually have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Yeah I hear ya.....

    So.........How's your offspring doin?
    I will not spawn - the world can only handle so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    I will not spawn - the world can only handle so much


    Same here....Already to much greatness on this planet from me, add anymore and chaos might break out.

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    wtf is wrong with ADHD?? is there a problem with being hyper-active? why do people see it as a disorder at all? MANY MANY genius scientists and inventors had ADHD and were always on the go. ADHD can be a blessing for some.

    ADD, however, is just a cop-out. "Okay I have ADD because it's hard for me to pay attention to the teacher in class. can you give me a drug for that?" give me a f*cking break.

    Americans rely on drugs way too much now...
    drugs for sleep, drugs for sex, drugs for attention, drugs for happiness, and we even give drugs to people with drug addictions!!!

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    ...oh and don't get me started on prescription weight-loss drugs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    wtf is wrong with ADHD?? is there a problem with being hyper-active? why do people see it as a disorder at all? MANY MANY genius scientists and inventors had ADHD and were always on the go. ADHD can be a blessing for some.

    ADD, however, is just a cop-out. "Okay I have ADD because it's hard for me to pay attention to the teacher in class. can you give me a drug for that?" give me a f*cking break.

    Americans rely on drugs way too much now...
    drugs for sleep, drugs for sex, drugs for attention, drugs for happiness, and we even give drugs to people with drug addictions!!!



    Are you my long lost brother?


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    Like I wrote that myself bud. My thoughts exactly. The sad part is many parents are having their kids prescribed ritalin because they are hyper and it's hard for them to pay attention.....DUH there kids! And ppl are wondering why children nowadays are getting so fat. There all drugged up and are to lazy to go out and play!

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    couldn't agree more superhuman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    I will not spawn - the world can only handle so much
    i still think we could make some cute kids together though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    wtf is wrong with ADHD?? is there a problem with being hyper-active? why do people see it as a disorder at all? MANY MANY genius scientists and inventors had ADHD and were always on the go. ADHD can be a blessing for some.

    ADD, however, is just a cop-out. "Okay I have ADD because it's hard for me to pay attention to the teacher in class. can you give me a drug for that?" give me a f*cking break.

    Americans rely on drugs way too much now...
    drugs for sleep, drugs for sex, drugs for attention, drugs for happiness, and we even give drugs to people with drug addictions!!!
    Theres a difference betwene using it as an excuse.

    There is nothing wrong with being hyper - in my day to day live - where it becomes a problem is at my corporate office, where i need to listen and actually be taken seriously. The office is not my palyground - yes this has been said before..

    Maybe i chose the wrong profession... but it's too late now

    Steroids r drugs too you know

    Most people speak from experience or lack thereof. I do think people use disorders/diseases as an excuse, and drugs r given out way to easily - but it's not the case in every instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodiac666
    i still think we could make some cute kids together though
    hahah u can take care of them then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    He said some really stupid things.

    He speaks alot of garabage about things he knows little about

    yea that makes sense.

    on a side note, did you see his guest apperance on the news? i dont remember who was interviewing him, but the guy was deliberatly trying to make tom mad... and boy did he suceed



    haha tom cruise's facial expression was exactly like when he got sprayed by the trick microphone at the war of the worlds premier

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
    Atheism? Bottom Line: You have no idea what you're talking about.

    That "dipshit" is almost a billionaire and has done things you can only dream to.
    eat a d*ck bro...i don't have to like tom cruise just cause you do.

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