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    Quote Originally Posted by 1819
    by reading my posts you know my answer.
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    to hell with it. im done. this could go on 4ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    For those that say it's OK. I wonder if your opinion would be different if she were Mexican, Middle Eastern or African. Is it OK for her to be illegal cause she's Russian and blonde? I wonder if race comes into play.
    If she was a brunette i would let her slide

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    HELL YEAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    For those that say it's OK. I wonder if your opinion would be different if she were Mexican, Middle Eastern or African. Is it OK for her to be illegal cause she's Russian and blonde? I wonder if race comes into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    HELL YEAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed
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    wretched refuse, yearning to breathe free...

    You live in New York City, right? EVERYBODY's an illegal immigrant.
    Jeesh!
    She's probably happy to have the work.

    Hope you're paying her a decent wage.

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    My answer: Yup

    Why: Prostitutes are often "illegals" and I employ them (if you will).

    They never last long though....But then....Neither do I.

    Dam.

    I've employed a few now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    For those that say it's OK. I wonder if your opinion would be different if she were Mexican, Middle Eastern or African. Is it OK for her to be illegal cause she's Russian and blonde? I wonder if race comes into play.
    The cleaning lady that I hired for our offices is Mexican, but also a US citizen. I wonder.... If your cleaning lady were an illegal Mexican, would you have even hired her in the first place........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    The cleaning lady that I hired for our offices is Mexican, but also a US citizen. I wonder.... If your cleaning lady were an illegal Mexican, would you have even hired her in the first place........?
    I'm not sure what you're asking. A friend recommended her. Race doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I hired a maid. She's a 23 year old Russian illegal immigrant. Speaks very little English. Should I feel guilty? Am I contributing to the down fall of America by doing this?
    fck no you shodl feel guitly im form california how the hell do ya think america was built it was on cheap labor, its tradition.

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    The best thing about being a gay man is that the ONLY woman in your life... is your cleaning lady!

    She dusts, empties the trash, scrubs the bathroom, and... leaves!


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    Wow, sounds great. Now get rid of the big hairy asses and the weaners and I might switch sides.


    Quote Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
    The best thing about being a gay man is that the ONLY woman in your life... is your cleaning lady!

    She dusts, empties the trash, scrubs the bathroom, and... leaves!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 39+1
    fck no you shodl feel guitly im form california how the hell do ya think america was built(?) it was on cheap labor, its tradition.

    So, I'm guessing public school

    ps, capitalize

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Wow, sounds great. Now get rid of the big hairy asses and the weaners and I might switch sides.
    No they shave their asses now, smooth as a babies bottom

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    So, I'm guessing public school

    ps, capitalize
    yep public school and dont have tome to spell chekc in between cle ints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I'm not sure what you're asking. A friend recommended her. Race doesn't matter.
    I was merely posing the same question to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I hired a maid. She's a 23 year old Russian illegal immigrant. Speaks very little English. Should I feel guilty? Am I contributing to the down fall of America by doing this?
    depends how dirty your apartment is .

    its a tough one, strictly speaking you shouldnt hire one as she is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1819
    ok cattle stolen is a more than valid example. but the work taken because people will do it for less? not their fault. it's the american way. the people hiring are the ones that you should be mad at. not the people willing to do the sh*t work.
    so in essence you are saying that what carlos is doing is wrong.

    I do not agree nor disagree.

    We have big, BIG immigration problems here in the UK, and on a grand scale it winds me up something rotten and makes me want to head out with an uzi and thin out the numbers. BUT, on an individual basis, I know alot of immigrants, illegal or not I do not know, and I like them and have helped them out just the same as I would anyone else.

    I often tell myself that if I ran a business or was an employer of some sort, I would strIctly hire people of english descent, with legal paper work and passports, as it riles me up when I see my fellow country folk lose their jobs because some dude who cannot even be bothered to learn basic manners in our language is willing to work for half the price.

    However, if I was in the situation, I too would get the "money overides everything" mindset, and would probably hire the foreigners.

    I also would feel rather hypocritical if I gave foreigners a hard time, as I have worked in spain before (albeit for 6 months over a summer season) and also dream of working as a wrestler in the USA, and have wanted to do that since I can remember.

    Unfortunately our government is soft as shit, and this problem will only get worse in years to come.

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    I'd hire her. Alot of illegal immigrants are here to better their lifes and their childrens. I'm proof of that by being the first generation in my family to graduate from college and live the american dream. I also pay over $150,000 a year in taxes and contribute to the U.S economy as a whole. I know alot of illegal immigrants that work labor jobs for $7.75 hr picking strawberries, apples, berries, lettice and other really intensive back burning jobs. Now if thats taking away you're job make sure to line up in the fields and say you want in. The truth is that high paying jobs require and education. These people don't have any but are doing the only job they can which is mostly was none of us wanna do. So if they do a good job, open the door and let them work and save a penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firmechicano831
    I'd hire her. Alot of illegal immigrants are here to better their lifes and their childrens. I'm proof of that by being the first generation in my family to graduate from college and live the american dream. I also pay over $150,000 a year in taxes and contribute to the U.S economy as a whole. I know alot of illegal immigrants that work labor jobs for $7.75 hr picking strawberries, apples, berries, lettice and other really intensive back burning jobs. Now if thats taking away you're job make sure to line up in the fields and say you want in. The truth is that high paying jobs require and education. These people don't have any but are doing the only job they can which is mostly was none of us wanna do. So if they do a good job, open the door and let them work and save a penny.
    there are many great points and answers in this thread, these are the types of discussions I miss in the lounge

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    America is already in the can..beyond any hope of salvation. there is however paperwork which you can fill out on her behalf to help her become an american citizen (without marriage) the only reason employers don't do this is because there is a cost involved....but if you're a hard ass you can deduct it from her paychecks. but the fear of deportation would be gone. check out the I.N.S. web site for info and the forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I hired a maid. She's a 23 year old Russian illegal immigrant. Speaks very little English. Should I feel guilty? Am I contributing to the down fall of America by doing this?
    No u shouldnt feel guilty at all people are struggling all over the world to better themselves u should only feel guilty if u are under paying her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I hired a maid. She's a 23 year old Russian illegal immigrant. Speaks very little English. Should I feel guilty? Am I contributing to the down fall of America by doing this?
    Not that my opinnion matters, but I feel that is very wrong.

    not only are you breaking the law knowing she is illegal, but you are taking away a job from a real american

    unless you have no conscience for your country, you should feel more than quilty, where is your loyalty???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~JustIce4Me~
    Not that my opinnion matters, but I feel that is very wrong.

    not only are you breaking the law knowing she is illegal, but you are taking away a job from a real american

    unless you have no conscience for your country, you should feel more than quilty, where is your loyalty???
    I'll hire a real American when the country I'm loyal to grants me the right to marry a man. Until then, American... Illegal... pft, whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I'll hire a real American when the country I'm loyal to grants me the right to marry a man. Until then, American... Illegal... pft, whatever.

    well i understand your point, but what you are doing is still illegal. So if breaking the law is of no moral issue to you then I guess you have your answer.

    Just because you have a gay issue doesnt' give you free rain to follow only the laws you choose because the government hasn't gotton around to settling the gay marrage issue

    I am certain that at some point gay marrages will be accepted adn legal and then you can go marry any gay man that would have you those things take time, you should knwo that, Look how long it takes for you to be accepetd as gay on this board and to hold the position you hold,

    that doesn't make it right for you to break the law, and keep a system of immigration laws screwed up.

    If she wants to be a citizen, then she needs to do what all others that wanted citizenship to do and not start her life in this country under criminal activity,

    whose tax dollars are going to be taking care of her ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MINE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~JustIce4Me~
    well i understand your point, but what you are doing is still illegal. So if breaking the law is of no moral issue to you then I guess you have your answer.

    Just because you have a gay issue doesnt' give you free rain to follow only the laws you choose because the government hasn't gotton around to settling the gay marrage issue

    I am certain that at some point gay marrages will be accepted adn legal and then you can go marry any gay man that would have you those things take time, you should knwo that, Look how long it takes for you to be accepetd as gay on this board and to hold the position you hold,

    that doesn't make it right for you to break the law, and keep a system of immigration laws screwed up.

    If she wants to be a citizen, then she needs to do what all others that wanted citizenship to do and not start her life in this country under criminal activity,

    whose tax dollars are going to be taking care of her ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MINE
    My response was pretty much pure sarcasm. I understand the point you're trying to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    I'll hire a real American when the country I'm loyal to grants me the right to marry a man. Until then, American... Illegal... pft, whatever.
    Does Russia allow gays to marry? If not, than I fail to see the point you are trying to make............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Does Russia allow gays to marry? If not, than I fail to see the point you are trying to make............
    Pssss (we are not in Russia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Does Russia allow gays to marry? If not, than I fail to see the point you are trying to make............
    You also failed to read the post that followed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Renesis
    Pssss (we are not in Russia).
    You know Americans and the shortage of maps.

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    i feel so sorry for miss southcarolina..
    though i never say stupid shit infront of large croweds of people.. i can almost empathize with her..

    carlos u gotta let that go man.. some day.. she is going to find ur posts and kill her self..AND YOU WILL FEEL BAD!

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