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04-10-2008, 04:59 PM #1
'Gynexin' - Gyno removing pills?!
Alright, so I have a buddy who got puberty induced gyno and he keeps asking me if nolva will remove it and I told him the only thing that will remove gyno after it's fully developed is surgery.
So he went searching on the net and he found this:
http://www.gynecomastiatreatment.com/
I read through the site and honestly, I don't buy this shit. I told him it's 99% a scam and doesn't work. I can see how the ingredients may burn FAT off, but not remove gyno development. I don't see how the ingredients listed can remove fully developed gyno, and if it does... then why isnt this product widely talked about and known throughout the steroid -using community?
What do you guys think?
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04-10-2008, 05:35 PM #2
i as well have come across that product......i thought it was a scam too....granted i haven't tried it though to know for sure
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04-10-2008, 06:09 PM #3
if it was legit a ton of people would be raving about it.
that being said, i doubt many people have tried it since we all potentially see these things as scams.
im going to go with it not working though, since im a skeptic
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04-10-2008, 08:53 PM #4
There are other options. Volumes of studies exist that clearly illustrate SIGNIFICANT AND SATISFACTORY non-surgical pubertal gyno relief, and any other form for that matter. Granted, these treatments meet with varying successes meaning one may need to try higher dosages, or various drugs but our commonly used Nolva, Letro, and certain DHTs along with numerous other drugs DO WORK. Although my comprehensive piece has been temporarily shelved, due to other more pressing matters, it is still in the works and focuses primarily drug-induced gyno here is some puberty-specific data that I'd like to present for you, him and everyone else to review:
Tamoxifen treatment for pubertal gynecomastia
We evaluated the efficacy of the tamoxifen treatment in 37 patients with pubertal gynecomastia. All had distinct, easily palpable breast swellings with a diameter of over three cm. Pain, tenderness, and swelling associated with gynecomastia were reported by six patients. Eight of the patients were obese. One patient also suffered from varicocele. Pain and size reduction was seen in all patients with tamoxifen treatment. No long-term side effects of tamoxifen were observed. The dose of tamoxifen was increased in three patients due to poor response. Two of the treatment group had recurrence problem at follow-up. We did not need to refer any patient to surgery. Tamoxifen treatment is relatively non-toxic, may be beneficial and we think it should be considered for pubertal gynecomastia.
Derman O, Kanbur NO, Kutluk T.
Section of Adolescent Medicine, Department of Pediatrics,
Hacettepe University Faculty of Medicine, 06100 Ankara-Turkey.Treatment of persistent pubertal gynecomastia with dihydrotestosterone heptanoate.
Four boys with persistent pubertal gynecomastia were given intramuscular dihydrotestosterone heptanoate (DHT-hp) at 2 to 4-week intervals for 16 weeks. By the end of treatment, breast size in all four boys had decreased 67% to 78%. Initial plasma levels of gonadotropins, estradiol, testosterone , and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) were normal. Mean plasma DHT concentration rose with the injections of DHT-hp, and remained elevated throughout the treatment period. Estradiol, LH, FSH, and testosterone decreased during treatment, as did 24-hour urinary LH and FSH. No regrowth of breast tissue was observed 6 to 15 months after treatment, although hormone concentrations had returned to near pretreatment values by 2 months after the last injection. DHT-hp has potential to be an effective medical therapy for persistent pubertal gynecomastia.
Eberle AJ; Sparrow JT; Keenan BS
J Pediatr 1986 Jul;109(1):144-9.Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia.
OBJECTIVES: To assess the efficacy of the anti-estrogens tamoxifen and raloxifen in the medical management of persistent pubertal gynecomastia. STUDY DESIGN: Retrospective chart review of 38 consecutive patients with persistent pubertal gynecomastia who presented to a pediatric endocrinology clinic. Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene). RESULTS: Mean (SD) age of treated subjects was 14.6 (1.5) years with gynecomastia duration of 28.3 (16.4) months. Mean reduction in breast nodule diameter was 2.1 cm (95% CI 1.7, 2.7, P <.0001) after treatment with tamoxifen and 2.5 cm (95% CI 1.7, 3.3, P <.0001) with raloxifene. Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients. CONCLUSION: Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.
Lawrence SE; Faught KA; Vethamuthu J; Lawson ML
J Pediatr. 2004 Jul;145(1):71-6.Last edited by magic32; 04-10-2008 at 09:01 PM.
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Good post Magic ... Looking Forward to your gyno article ...... Keep up all the GREAT work ...
Merc.
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04-16-2008, 07:07 AM #6
bump
Last edited by magic32; 04-16-2008 at 07:35 AM.
Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
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06-11-2011, 02:15 AM #7
I'm a little reluctant to open links from members that only have one post, especially when that first post is in the lounge.
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06-12-2011, 05:06 AM #8
Even if it's a legit post (doubtful) he should be banned for bringing up a post that is 3 years old.
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Low level lasers are being used for fat destruction. May have potential. google:
"low level lasers"
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