McCain

**WEBB** · 05-17-2008, 01:50 AM

here is a good video for everyone to enjoy....

http://www.break.com/index/screwing_the_country.html

**Carlos_E** · 05-17-2008, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by WEBB

here is a good video for everyone to enjoy....

http://www.break.com/index/screwing_the_country.html

Good one.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-17-2008, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

For someone who does not like Bush or McCain you repeat their lies. You want to have a discussion on polices? I stated policies. You say we should not meet with terrorist yet Condi Rice is doing it now. McCain said we should meet with Hamas. I posted the video, you can watch him in his own words. How can you trust McCains policies when he flip flops on so many issues. He gave his big 2013 speech saying in 2013 the war will be over and our troops will be width drawing. Later in the afternoon he said 2013 isn't a deadline date for width drawl. Huh? McCain is against setting a target date for width drawl yet we will width draw by 2013.

There is no point in trying to have an intelligent conversation with you when your rebuttal consists of yada yada yada. I haven't seen you discuss issues. Your issues consists of whether or not you think Obama or his wife is racist.

What did I tell you Carlos?

Theres no compromising with republicans. All they want to do is fight.

**Gators** · 05-17-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

What did I tell you Carlos?

Theres no compromising with republicans. All they want to do is fight.

and some folks see things as either Democrat or Republicans

Personally, i think both parties and all 3 candidates left suck, but hey, if a uber liberal dude floats your boat, you should be happy, but be careful what you wish for.

**SnaX** · 05-17-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Gators

This guy is going to be hard for me to vote for, he comes across as a arrogant a$$, he's old, and a career bureaucrat. Pisses me off the choices we keep getting, all of McCains previous competitors would be a better choice than him, that's what 'our' republican party churns out, 8 years of W now McCain

1.) You ARE a damn fool
2.) This is not what ANY party churns, this is what a specific GROUP in a party churns.
3.) If you don't like McCaine, do not vote for him.
4.) If you don't like another candidate, don't vote for THEM.
5.) Don't for vote a candidate you do not like, just to keep another you do not like more, out.
6.) Vote for who you agree with on the most levels you feel are important. Even if you are MADE to believe they do not have a chance. Their chance is as great as the one you supply.

The choices you make will effect our children, and our children's children.

In supporting my 2nd statement. There is a candidate (R) who is disliked IMMENSELY by other republicans. He is still a republican, but he shares different views from the rest of his party. Fancy that shit! A man with the courage to stand out! Yet.. He NEVER gets media coverage like the other candidates who spit out the same rederrick they think is popular.
They will push for the single most popular consensus to win, then the rest is for their own means.

Ask yourself, what are the means, ends for all these candidates. What do they have in store for us beyond their popular push?

As well ask yourself "How can I vote for a candidate who has NOT even decided who his running mate is?"
If that does not strike any of you as un-presidential material, or sounds strangely UNSOUND, then I feel a force to sweep this nation is in store. By DEFAULT an incomplete party does not qualify for presidency.

**SnaX** · 05-17-2008, 03:13 PM

Follow up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjaMLuOpj38

A democrat and a republican? Oh LAWD!?!?!?! Looks like they see beyond their party. They are intelligent enough to get shit done.
They have experience, and fight a battle that MANY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE is losing.

Ron Paul has a huge party, and the news WILL NOT cover it because they do not want you to know!

The media wants you to believe you have 2 or 3 candidates to choose from.

There is in fact a FOURTH, with tremendous power. He has raised the most money I believe, is that right? And a LOT of it comes from military..

Strange.. this guy wants to bring our family and friends home, and THEY support him. Looks like they want to come home as well!

This is the kind of man who address the people, not just some "masses".

It is blasphemous to encounter Americans who have not even heard of all the candidates that want to represent their country.
That's damn shameful!

Voting for Ron Paul not a losing battle. TRUST ME! This guy has not had coverage since he won the popular vote after his 2nd presidential debate!

That's some bullshit. So because many do not hear of him as much as the others, people think he is losing. WRONG, whether you like it or not, you WILL see him on TV when it comes time to vote, He WILL be in the top three. So that being said, do you still think you are wasting your vote

If you agree with this, then go with it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

**Carlos_E** · 05-17-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by SnaX

Follow up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjaMLuOpj38

A democrat and a republican? Oh LAWD!?!?!?! Looks like they see beyond their party. They are intelligent enough to get shit done.
They have experience, and fight a battle that MANY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE is losing.

Ron Paul has a huge party, and the news WILL NOT cover it because they do not want you to know!

The media wants you to believe you have 2 or 3 candidates to choose from.

There is in fact a FOURTH, with tremendous power. He has raised the most money I believe, is that right? And a LOT of it comes from military..

Strange.. this guy wants to bring our family and friends home, and THEY support him. Looks like they want to come home as well!

This is the kind of man who address the people, not just some "masses".

It is blasphemous to encounter Americans who have not even heard of all the candidates that want to represent their country.
That's damn shameful!

Voting for Ron Paul not a losing battle. TRUST ME! This guy has not had coverage since he won the popular vote after his 2nd presidential debate!

That's some bullshit. So because many do not hear of him as much as the others, people think he is losing. WRONG, whether you like it or not, you WILL see him on TV when it comes time to vote, He WILL be in the top three. So that being said, do you still think you are wasting your vote

If you agree with this, then go with it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

From what I've read on the web Ron Paul's supporters are not giving up. I think it's a good thing. Work from the bottom up to make change in your party. To be honest, Ron Paul would be my second choice.

quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.

In the last three months, Paul's forces, who donated $34.5 million to his White House effort and upward of a million total votes, have, as The Ticket has noted, been fighting a series of guerrilla battles with party establishment officials at county and state conventions from Washington and Missouri to Maine and Mississippi. Their goal: to take control of local committees, boost their delegate totals and influence platform debates.