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05-14-2008, 09:45 PM #1Banned
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McCain
This guy is going to be hard for me to vote for, he comes across as a arrogant a$$, he's old, and a career bureaucrat. Pisses me off the choices we keep getting, all of McCains previous competitors would be a better choice than him, that's what 'our' republican party churns out, 8 years of W now McCain
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05-14-2008, 10:10 PM #2Associate Member
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mccain is the only choice left..he will crush obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-14-2008, 11:18 PM #3
The only way you could vote for McCain is if you hate the others more. He has virtually nothing to offer.
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05-15-2008, 06:40 AM #4
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05-15-2008, 05:16 PM #5Anabolic Member
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Anybody who claims to be a conservative and votes for Mccain in the name of party loyalty should be ashamed of themselves.
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05-15-2008, 05:31 PM #6
I dont like him either, just my thoughts.
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05-15-2008, 07:51 PM #7Banned
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I am very conservative and I agree that he has nothing to offer but I absolutely hate the two other alternatives.
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05-15-2008, 07:56 PM #8Banned
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lesser of the evils, like the previous 8 years. I can't believe this is the best both parties have to offer.
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05-15-2008, 08:04 PM #9
I will not vote for him, no way no how. I thought I might, the lesser of 2 evils thing but he keeps opening his mouth reminding me why I hate him and I do hate him.
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05-15-2008, 08:16 PM #10Anabolic Member
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Bob Barr is sounding really good.
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05-15-2008, 08:30 PM #11
Vote for Ron Paul!
Vote for Bob Barr!
More good news for Barack Obama!!!
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05-15-2008, 08:36 PM #12
I don't understand why anyone would 'hate' the man. Hate is a strong word and if you hate someone who has never done anything to you personally, you've got some serious issues, IMO.
I don't hate McCain, as a matter of fact I kinda like the geezer because he has his own mind...sometimes. But I would NEVER vote for him.
GO OBAMA!
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05-15-2008, 08:41 PM #13Anabolic Member
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05-15-2008, 09:15 PM #14
Yeah I'm going to vote for him because I will not vote for Obama, just because he's 'republican' he is not going to be "another Bush"
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05-15-2008, 09:28 PM #15
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05-15-2008, 10:07 PM #16
i am Canadian, so i know it dont matter, but i hear all the sit on Sirius radio and based on policies and everything i would vote for Obama...also he just got Edwards support so thats gonna help....
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05-15-2008, 11:12 PM #17
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05-16-2008, 05:05 AM #18Banned
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Well maybe some folks have different views,close to 50% of the country doesn't agree w/ Obama's guess's (i guess you can call them his policies). Just because i don't agree w/ your views does not make you right or wrong Bro, we just have different 'ways' to get the the shared goal.
How big a role does gay rights play into your decision. Not flaming Carlos, just curious? One of my hot button social issues is abortion, i'm very pro life (my wife and i help w/ a local pregnancy center that gives young girls a alternative to abortion, we just, if they wanna listen, lay out to them the alternative route, and support them regardless of the decision they make)
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05-16-2008, 06:43 AM #19
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05-16-2008, 08:54 AM #21
The Bush-McCain Challenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBEQN9Hb8YMuscle Asylum Project Athlete
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05-16-2008, 09:16 AM #22
I hate him because of a lot of reasons, as a person he is a real jerk, when he was a POW his wife and kids suffered too and held dialy prayer vigiles for him, and then his wife develops cancer and is also fighting for her life. He gets out and abandened them for a hussy 20years younger then himself. His wife is on her death bed and his off in Hawaii banging a near teenager. His own kids disowned him! Thats the type of person he is. I am angry that he is the one representing the Republican party and it makes me question, am I in the correct party? His Iraq policy is also "bothersome" to me, I don't knowthe correct answer but having McCain in charge of that is, well, bothersome yet it's his strong point?
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05-16-2008, 11:44 AM #23
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05-16-2008, 11:48 AM #24Banned
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05-16-2008, 12:57 PM #27Banned
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05-16-2008, 01:13 PM #28
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05-16-2008, 01:23 PM #30
They're airing in Tennessee. It's on youtube.
The GOP had attack ads linking Democratic candidates to Obama in Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi. All 3 Republicans lost their seats to Democrats. The ads didn't work. Now they're trying Michelle attack ads. It reeks of desperation.
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05-16-2008, 01:24 PM #31
o.k. I was slightly off and going by memory she didn't have cancer but she was in a sever auto accident. It's very difficult to find info on her, carol shep and what was in the wikkipedia last month is gone??? There are no photos, and there are no bios on her on the internet???
Here is what I did find...
"Carol Shepp was a model from Philadelphia (no modeling photos available online). John McCain married her in 1965, and adopted her two children. In 1966, they had a child of their own, Sidney. In 1969, while McCain was locked up in the infamous Hanoi Hilton, Carol was in a near-death auto accident, going face first through the windshield. She emerged four inches shorter by the time John got home, and gained a "good deal of weight." (again, no pictures).
Contrary to what you may assume, John McCain did not run right out on Carol after her disfigurement. That is considered poor form in the military, and at the time, he could have been discharged for such conduct. Instead, John had affairs, the most meaningful of which was with Cindy Lou Hensley. He stayed with Carol until 1980, when he left the military, before leaving her for the wealthy (Anheuser-Busch money) 25 year old Cindy. Carol was 'surprised' at the split, but never accusatory. She got a pretty nice settlement for the times, considering she did not contest the divorce or attend any of the proceedings. Two years later, with help and support from the Hensley family, McCain was in Congress.
Shepp later worked in the Reagan White House, and surfaced briefly in 2000 (saying she supported McCain's presidential run), but has led a very low profile life. Still, as a former model, former White House employee, and former wife of a well known Senator and two time presidential candidate, the lack of readily available photos and bio information is beyond coincidence. There has apparently been a very successful campaign to erase her. Why? To remove that third data point if things had ended differently with Vicki Iseman? Forget the affair, if there was one. Perhaps even Cindy McCain would see the irony in John's infatuation with a younger woman."
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05-16-2008, 01:28 PM #32
I'm not real happy with McCain, but I have to say I will vote for him. By not voting for him you might as well just hand the presidency over to the Dems. McCain has said that he wants to have a minimal non violent presence in Iraq by 2013. His foriegn policy is way better than Obama's. Obama is gonna just sit them down and explain our points of view and the terrorists should look at it from our perspective and decide that they have been wrong this whole time and lay down their weapons and hold hands and skip around in a circle singing It's a Small World After All!!!!!! WTF is that about?????? Anyways I will vote for McCain even though he isn't my ideal president, but he is 1000 times better than what the Dems are offering!
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05-16-2008, 01:34 PM #33
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05-16-2008, 01:36 PM #34
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05-16-2008, 01:42 PM #35
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05-16-2008, 02:14 PM #36
He is up in arms because Bush' attack was a lie. Obama is not trying to appease terrorists. His response:
"He accused me and other Democrats of wanting to negotiate with terrorists, and said we were appeasers, no different from people who appeased Adolf Hitler," "Now that's exactly the kind of appalling attack that has divided our country and alienated us from the rest of the world and that’s why we need change in Washington,"
"I want to be perfectly clear with George Bush and John McCain, and with the people of South Dakota," "If George Bush and John McCain want to have a debate about protecting the United States of America, that is a debate I am happy to have anytime, anyplace. And that is a debate that I will win because George Bush and John McCain have a lot to answer for."
"That was frustrating enough," "Then John McCain gives a speech. He gave a speech in the morning where he talked about the need for civility in our politics. He talked about elevating the tone in our country.... Not an hour later, he turned around and embraced George Bush's attacks on Democrats.
"McCain jumped on a call with a bunch of bloggers and said that I wasn't fit to protect this nation that I love because I wanted to sit down and negotiate with tough diplomacy with countries like Iran," "He accused me of not being fit to protect this nation, this nation that my grandfather served in World War II, this nation that's given me everything that I have. So much for civility."
"They’ll have to explain why Hamas now controls Gaza – Hamas that was strengthened because the US insisted that we have democratic elections in the Palestinian Authority,"
McCain "still hasn’t spelled out one substantial way that he’d be different from GB when it comes to foreign policy"
"John McCain has repeated this notion that I am prepared to negotiate with terrorists," "I have never said that. I have been adamant about not negotiating with Hamas, a terrorist organization that has vowed to destroy Israel. In fact the irony is, yesterday just as John McCain was making these attacks, a story broke that he was actually guilty of the exact same thing that he was accusing me of.
"That's the kind of hypocrisy that we've been seeing in our foreign policy, the kind of fear peddling, fear mongering, that has prevented us from actually making us safe. They're trying to fool you, they're trying to scare you. And they're not telling the truth. And the reason is because they cannot win a foreign policy debate on the merits. But it's not going to work. And it's not going to work this time, and it's not going to work this year."
Here McCain saying we should talk to Hamas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ATuxuebh0Muscle Asylum Project Athlete
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05-16-2008, 02:34 PM #37
It wasn't a lie. He never mentioned Obama. Not even once. He was strictly talking about an issue that has been discussed for decades.
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05-16-2008, 02:35 PM #38
mccain is the antichrist
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05-16-2008, 02:55 PM #39
Wrong again.
During Bush' speech CNN contacted Bush' staff.
White House aides privately acknowledged the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate Obama and others in his party.Muscle Asylum Project Athlete
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05-16-2008, 03:12 PM #40
what does CNN contacting Bush have to do with anything??? He still didn't say Obama! It's like that saying if you call a pack of dogs a liar the guilty one will bark!
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