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    Who are you voting for?

    McCain by default. When either party gets complete control, it's not good, i'm all about gridlock. Obama and Hillary are sooo far left they're, imho, not a viable option, but then again i'm part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy

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    Writing in Ron Paul on principle...I wont vote for any of those clowns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Writing in Ron Paul on principle...I wont vote for any of those clowns...
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    A vote for Paul is a vote for Obama, i'll be damned if i'll help Obama get elected. I like Paul MUCH better than McDumb, but..

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    I wish Bill Clinton would run for president again. I really liked that guy

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    thats right, i said it


    OBAMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    thats right, i said it


    OBAMA
    Well, there's a good chance he'll be our next president. Why Obama, if you don't mind my asking, not trying to flame, just curious. I personally like the guy, i just disagree w/ him on most every issue, he is the most liberal senator there is.

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    All the choices sux. I don't wana be responsible for puttin any of theses ass clowns in office. Cuz as always the guna accept lobbiest money and change there minds on all topics. Bottom line they guna do what the old mighty dollar tells them to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gators View Post
    Well, there's a good chance he'll be our next president. Why Obama, if you don't mind my asking, not trying to flame, just curious. I personally like the guy, i just disagree w/ him on most every issue, he is the most liberal senator there is.
    its cool.

    I just don't want Bush for a 3rd term

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupa95 View Post
    All the choices sux. I don't wana be responsible for puttin any of theses ass clowns in office. Cuz as always the guna accept lobbiest money and change there minds on all topics. Bottom line they guna do what the old mighty dollar tells them to do.
    true.


    none of them really give a crap about us. Its all about power and money. Then again, what isn't these days....

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    Obama...actually I'd vote for anyone who isn't a republican. This country is in bad shape right now, thanks to Bush and his cronies. Seems like the rich get richer and what used to be middle class is now poor. If McCain gets in it'll be more of the same. Another fukking warmonger. I believe this country is headed for a major crash.

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    Obama or Clinton because I don't want four more years of George Bush (McCain).

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    what i dont get is people say why would you vote for obama.

    alot of people just pick him because he is all over the news.

    i bet if you asked 75 % of his voters what his policies are on certain issues they dont have a fvckin clue.

    all they know is he seems big on the news, talks well, and they want change ( in apparenace, skin colour, and government)

    all i hear on the news is this is the first time we could have a black or female president wtf does that mean.

    if someone asked me why i would with paul you could list out a long list of reasons and defend / debate them.

    when you ask the guy who votes obama why he votes obama you get a i want change and the shoulder shrug.

    The media picked the candidate, if Paul had the media coverage and all the special interests (banks, war companies, $$$) otherwords all the people who wont want him on the news would.

    Hell go read that qoute about the founders of the federal reserve who founded are company. SOmeone who goes against their efforts for a 1 world government wouldnt make sense.


    I also love all these loonies who cry for more war and or a public healthcare.

    Then we see were in 9 trillion in debt......... thats what cracks me up.

    Also the gas tax lol, does anyone ever talk about wasteful spending anymore or cutting costs and reducing government.

    Does anyone even talk about our rights as americans, the consitituion, or own home soil, and our borders anymore.

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    so again can someone please list the reasons to vote for obama?

    Also what is going on with our free markets in this country.

    Americans and our forefathers fought for an independent prosperous nation not this 1 world government were heading towards where 1 government and 1 bank runs all and we have no rights or choice.

    This isnt america anymore its just a quest to a boarderless 1 world government run by a bunch of bankers with all their citizens chipped with radio chips.

    History does repeat it self and i suggest the rest of you all wake up.

    go google the zeitgest movie.

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    sorry nothing pisses me off more then igorance.

    someone said yesterday that ron paul doesnt look like a president he looks like a weak old man.

    you know what to the guy who said that i dont even have a comment it justs speaks on its own blatant igorance.

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    haha ralph wiggim would still do a better job then hilary clinton. that is hilarious.

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    hhaa now all we need is all the news networks in the country to support wigim and some of that printed fiat greenback from our banks which was just fresh off the printing press and you can call ralph wiggim the next president, he doesnt even need to talk about the issues, just be popular, get all over the TV, and get some of that fiat money so he can be all the media and you have a president!!!

    No brains required!

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    Obama Bin Ladin won't have my vote. His name isn't even American.

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    I dont think there are any good candidates this year but where this country is right now I think obama is to big of a change all at once it would be going from one extreme to the other. Maybe in 4 years he would be good but right now we need somone who is inbetween bush and obama but that option really isnt there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt10 View Post
    so again can someone please list the reasons to vote for obama?
    Also what is going on with our free markets in this country.

    Americans and our forefathers fought for an independent prosperous nation not this 1 world government were heading towards where 1 government and 1 bank runs all and we have no rights or choice.

    This isnt america anymore its just a quest to a boarderless 1 world government run by a bunch of bankers with all their citizens chipped with radio chips.

    History does repeat it self and i suggest the rest of you all wake up.

    go google the zeitgest movie.

    umm let me see.... 2 reasons... (1)Hillary, (2)McCain.... to answer your question in bold.

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    I thought Romney would make a very good president, but the Pub party pushed the old fart who's 'turn' it was, McCain. The thing that bothers me about McCain is like Billary or Obama, he's a career bureaucrat, never been in the real business world, never been a high level executive (like a Governor or CEO), all they've ever done is spend others $.

    Some of you Obama folks (and i'm not knocking you) please tell me just what Obama has accomplished leadership wise? How about his voting record in the Senate? Do you know he is the MOST liberal in the Senate? Basically he's a socialist, wants to play Robin Hood and take from the producers, who btw already pay most of the taxes anyway, and give to more entitlement programs, and continue to expand our already bloated and inefficient Federal Bureaucracy.

    As far as the war, hindsight is 20/20, but pulling out quickly could very well lead to Iran invading Iraq, which many experts predict the oil price would double. Think Iran doesn't want that scenario to happen.

    I'm pissed at Bush and the Republican party for being a bunch of free spending wimps, and i'm too conservative for the Dem party, frustrated. I like the Fair Tax, or something like that, and we need to drastically reduce spending. Raising taxes is NOT the answer, it's been shown that raising taxes actually reduces revenue, and reducing taxes produces more revenue. What does a business do when it's in a financial bind: Cut spending, immediately.

    And yeah, i said Ron Paul isn't electable because he looks and sounds goofy, and the American people vote on how candidates look and sound (see Obama). I think Paul is spot on, maybe if McCain is elected he'll get him on the cabinet?

    You cannot believe what ANY politician says when he's running for office, you can only go by what he's accomplished and his voting record. Obama looks terrible in this regard, unless you're a far left socialist leaner.

    I have to vote for McCain, but i don't like having to do so. Gridlock is a good thing.

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    I agree you cant rely on the rich to keep paying more to support a country cause then your just punishing them for being succesfull and thats not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingweb50 View Post
    I agree you cant rely on the rich to keep paying more to support a country cause then your just punishing them for being succesfull and thats not fair.
    Right-o. I've busted my azz to get where i am, and i'll be damned if i want some left wing bureaucrat to tell me what to do w/ my earnings. On the flip side, i think people who have been successful should give back to their community (like Bill gates) but it should be of their own free will.

    Anyone read the book Atlas Shrugged? it's a GREAT read, but if you're a socialist, it'll piss ya off Google it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    umm let me see.... 2 reasons... (1)Hillary, (2)McCain.... to answer your question in bold.
    What issues do you agree / disagree w/ Obama on?

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    not quite sure why anyone would want another lying SOB like clinton in the white house again.

    Everyone says our economy was better but one major reason was because the rich were eating it getting taxed....getting taxed on every $50,000 made is bullshit IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gators View Post
    What issues do you agree / disagree w/ Obama on?
    Gators, ah bro, I don't want to get into with everyone on this subject... I shouldn't have posted that... I am getting out of the political debates. I already stir up enough friction and waves on the religious debates... I am staying out of these. Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavinco View Post
    Obama Bin Ladin won't have my vote. His name isn't even American.
    Very intelligent response.
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    ill be honest, haven't been following the campaign closely but Obama seems like a smart guy. Just not sure if he is 'ready' for the white house.
    He has some great ideas, just hope he puts them into action.

    hillary, don't even get me started. I'm sure she has some good ideas as well but no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    Gators, ah bro, I don't want to get into with everyone on this subject... I shouldn't have posted that... I am getting out of the political debates. I already stir up enough friction and waves on the religious debates... I am staying out of these. Peace!
    I have no problem listening to other points of view, often when i hear them it makes me think and re-think my 'positions'. Although i'm pretty conservative, and i'm sure i'm right and all the liberals are freaking crazy there's no 'right or wrong' way, and having a broad range of views makes this country great. I wasn't picking at ya Brah, just curious, but if you don't wanna dive into this, i understand, i'm a political junkie every 4 years so i enjoy knocking potitical views around. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gators View Post
    Some of you Obama folks (and i'm not knocking you) please tell me just what Obama has accomplished leadership wise? How about his voting record in the Senate?
    Read here:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...167/key-votes/
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    Obama, Has any one consider the fact that he is a muslium(spelling?). This is the resaon we went to war over 911 ,Oh and to line the oil peoples pockets with more oil money. We can stop a thrid world nation in there tracks in hours. (desert storm) and they can not find binladin BULLSHIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupa95 View Post
    Obama, Has any one consider the fact that he is a muslium(spelling?). This is the resaon we went to war over 911 ,Oh and to line the oil peoples pockets with more oil money. We can stop a thrid world nation in there tracks in hours. (desert storm) and they can not find binladin BULLSHIT.
    Good lord he is not Muslim!!! Did you miss the whole Rev. Wright thing that went on? Rev. Wright is a CHRISTIAN minister and Obama attended his church. That negates the scary ohhhh he's a Muslim lie. The Muslim lie was circulated through the internet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWX3ar6d02A
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

    Claim: Illinois Seantor Barack Obama is a "radical Muslim" who "will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance."

    Status: False
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    Muslim yup he's a Muslim. He's got a the liberal votes. Just what his country has turned into a bunch lay downs. A bunch of whinny girls.

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    The libritarian green party will be the fall of this country. Just go ahead put that goof into office yull see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupa95 View Post
    Muslim yup he's a Muslim.
    I hope you're joking. Or are you one of those people who can't see the forest through the tress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    I hope you're joking. Or are you one of those people who can't see the forest through the tress.
    Yup I'm the guy who looks for tree huggers and drop um where I see um

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