Ryan Moats mother in-law dies as ***hole cop harasses him

**Tigershark** · 03-30-2009, 11:00 PM

I saw the video and the cop does need to go.

**IronReload04** · 03-30-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

With all due respect , if you had a family member passing away and you wanted to say your final words i would love to see how you would have handled it. Even when the god damn nurse and security advised the cop the woman was dying he still didn't let him go !

ok....a point I didnt know about since I didnt see past 4 minutes

**j4ever41** · 03-31-2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by ENraged

All the cop had to do was escort them to into the hospital and confirm the details of the situation. I had a similar event happen when I was rushing my Lady to the hospital for our second child. she was scheduled for a C-section the following day but little dude was not trying to hear it.
I did a stop and go near the hospital and pulled the campus police in doing so. once they saw I wasn't BS'in them they actually helped me get her inside and in to a wheel chair after which congratulating me on the pending birth.
This cop had no excuse other then he was being a c#ckbag!

true that, when they got out the vehicle they told him what was going on or at least they tried, at that time all he had to do is say ok lets go inside and if you are telling the truth i will go my way and we will forget about the red light

**jbm** · 03-31-2009, 01:16 AM

I just hate abusive cops!

**JiGGaMaN** · 03-31-2009, 02:34 AM

personally i think the cop did the right thing. i mean how do we know he didnt have weed on him? i would have detained him to ask some questions and do some drug tests on him.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 03-31-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

personally i think the cop did the right thing. i mean how do we know he didnt have weed on him? i would have detained him to ask some questions and do some drug tests on him.

hahahahaha

**spywizard** · 03-31-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by T_Own

lol... she wasn't dead, she was dying. she died while he was outside with the cop. running a red light isn't good, but they said the cop pulled a gun on him, FOR RUNNING A LIGHT?!

how could you try to dominate the situation so much you wouldn't let someone go see their dying mom? is that cop really so high on his horse that he thinks he should interfere with that? if he were in that situation would he be calm and collected? i highly doubt anyone would be. he should be fired without a doubt. doing your job doesn't mean keeping people from a dying relative. get his info and send him a ticket and left him go into the hospital

on espn they said the cop is on "paid leave"

no, not for running a red light... for coming out at him.. all of them, he doesn't know what's going on..

It wasn't the guy, it was the mouthy woman that set the stage for a confrontation.

here's another one..

this racist cop should be charged as a hate crime and abuse of public trust, he should lose his job.. .. same logic as this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0pPiJhCE0

**spywizard** · 03-31-2009, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst

Good! Let's hope he never works in any position of authority again! This guy shouldn't be so much as mall security!

Naw, he'll go be a fireman, then can decide who's cat gets saved and who's doesn't

**scerpico22** · 03-31-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

no, not for running a red light... for coming out at him.. all of them, he doesn't know what's going on..

It wasn't the guy, it was the mouthy woman that set the stage for a confrontation.

here's another one..

this racist cop should be charged as a hate crime and abuse of public trust, he should lose his job.. .. same logic as this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0pPiJhCE0

two completely different scenarios. this lady was belligerent and resisting...quite different from the Moats case...IMO

**J-Dogg** · 03-31-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

personally i think the cop did the right thing. i mean how do we know he didnt have weed on him? i would have detained him to ask some questions and do some drug tests on him.

If someone stops at a red light with hazards on, then goes through, continues driving with hazards on, directly to the emergency room.....the officer should give the citizen the benefit of the doubt.

I'd rather see some guy get away with a joint in his pocket, than see some guy miss that last minutes with his mother.

America is suppose to be like that, I forget who said it, but It's better to let 10 guilty men go free, than let one innocent man suffer.

**spywizard** · 03-31-2009, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by scerpico22

two completely different scenarios. this lady was belligerent and resisting...quite different from the Moats case...IMO

no, not completely different..

and the sarcasm must not have come through..

Point being, suppose he was on this call yesterday..

Always follow the instructions of the police.. if not, expect a butt whoopin..

don't like it... you'd better arm yourself, because if there is no police state, the animals will come and eat you and your way of life..

**J-Dogg** · 03-31-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

no, not completely different..

and the sarcasm must not have come through..

Point being, suppose he was on this call yesterday..

Always follow the instructions of the police.. if not, expect a butt whoopin..

don't like it... you'd better arm yourself, because if there is no police state, the animals will come and eat you and your way of life..

I strongly disagree.

Police are trusted to uphold the law, and protect us. maybe it's NOT fair to them, but they are expected to make better judgment calls than the rest of us and be more professional and responsible than the rest of us.

It's the career they choose, and they do it for 30k a year, again, their choice.

The officer used bad judgment with the given situation. The "perp" was obviously in a rush to get to the hospital and should have been given the benefit of the doubt, not barraged, had a gun pulled on him and questioned.

**scerpico22** · 03-31-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

no, not completely different..

and the sarcasm must not have come through..

Point being, suppose he was on this call yesterday..

Always follow the instructions of the police.. if not, expect a butt whoopin..

don't like it... you'd better arm yourself, because if there is no police state, the animals will come and eat you and your way of life..

ahhhh now i got the sarcasm LOL...

agreed...and thats why i am well armed...just in case...

**spywizard** · 03-31-2009, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

I strongly disagree.

Police are trusted to uphold the law, and protect us. maybe it's NOT fair to them, but they are expected to make better judgment calls than the rest of us and be more professional and responsible than the rest of us.

It's the career they choose, and they do it for 30k a year, again, their choice.

The officer used bad judgment with the given situation. The "perp" was obviously in a rush to get to the hospital and should have been given the benefit of the doubt, not barraged, had a gun pulled on him and questioned.

WELL, ya get what ya get for 30k a year..

I bet you expect politicians to not lie to you and that you can trust them too??

point being, it's an imperfect system, but it's the one that is in place..

She's dead, she was terminal, they should have said goodbyes before they left..

I speak this way from 1st hand experience, was it awful?? yes, could it have been avoided?? yes, was it all that important for them to "get there right away"""

No...

**scerpico22** · 03-31-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

I strongly disagree.

LOL...reminds me of A Few Good Men when they are in court and Demi Moores character says "I strenuously object your honor"

I know...thats pretty random but I like that movie

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 03-31-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

She's dead, she was terminal, they should have said goodbyes before they left..

.

Thats kinda what Im thinking.
Unless this woman, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, had 15 minutes left to live...but I find that hard to believe.

The family and everyone knew the situation. Why wait 5 minutes till shes dead to try and get to the hospital to say goodbye??? Should've been done a long time ago...

**scerpico22** · 03-31-2009, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Thats kinda what Im thinking.
Unless this woman, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, had 15 minutes left to live...but I find that hard to believe.

The family and everyone knew the situation. Why wait 5 minutes till shes dead to try and get to the hospital to say goodbye??? Should've been done a long time ago...

it all depends on the type of illness. a similar situation just happened to my buddies grandmother. they had spend days in the hospital and during the hours that they went home usually in the early AM, the hospital said they would call when the end was nearing because they lived so close to the hospital. they could make it in time for her passing.

well, same thing here...they live 5 minutes away and they got the call at 1:30am or so...so yes they were waiting for the call and its not uncommon practice for the hospital to handle it this way.

bottom line is the cop COULD have used better judgment.

**J-Dogg** · 03-31-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Thats kinda what Im thinking.
Unless this woman, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, had 15 minutes left to live...but I find that hard to believe.

The family and everyone knew the situation. Why wait 5 minutes till shes dead to try and get to the hospital to say goodbye??? Should've been done a long time ago...

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

**J-Dogg** · 03-31-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

WELL, ya get what ya get for 30k a year..

I bet you expect politicians to not lie to you and that you can trust them too??

point being, it's an imperfect system, but it's the one that is in place..

She's dead, she was terminal, they should have said goodbyes before they left..

I speak this way from 1st hand experience, was it awful?? yes, could it have been avoided?? yes, was it all that important for them to "get there right away"""

No...

I'll grantee, they had said there good by many times to a dying sick mother bro. But if my mom was in the process of leaving this world I want to provide her with the comfort that I'm right there and holding her hand. Just like I would a wife or god forbid a child.

Passing on, can be a very scary experience, the unknown is very scary, the comfort of having loved ones there, should not be something denied to a man and his mother for the sake passing through a red light with no traffic coming, and your hazards on.

I would never expect a politician to always do the right thing, but if I caught them on tape, being anything but what they are paid to do, as a public servant, I'd expect them to loose their job too.

It is a flawed system, but you can't use that as an excuse to let things go. Kids too are going to get away with things growing up, but it does not mean you should ignore the things you do catch them doing or the system would be really eff'd up.

**BgMc31** · 03-31-2009, 05:36 PM

Spywizard, no one claimed the cop was racist. He's an overzealous asshole who probably got picked on in high school and now getting his revenge on athletes. The guy did something inappropriate to Zach Thomas' wife as well (she's white).

**JiGGaMaN** · 03-31-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

no, not for running a red light... for coming out at him.. all of them, he doesn't know what's going on..

for what other reason would someone go through a red light to get to a hospital unless it was an emergency?

**DFDub** · 03-31-2009, 08:03 PM

this happened literally down the road from me.

***FireGuy*** · 04-01-2009, 12:45 PM

I see he saw the writing on the wall and resigned today.

**Matt** · 04-01-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

Im beinging to warm to you J-Dogg.

To be serious i think your spot on lol, i guess some people are missing the point, until it happens to them...

**scerpico22** · 04-01-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Spywizard, no one claimed the cop was racist. He's an overzealous asshole who probably got picked on in high school and now getting his revenge on athletes. The guy did something inappropriate to Zach Thomas' wife as well (she's white).

she is actually hispanic...

**scerpico22** · 04-01-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

excellent post!

**firmechicano831** · 04-02-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

X2

***D7M*** · 04-02-2009, 11:17 AM

update:

the cop resigned

**southmadejd** · 04-02-2009, 11:30 AM

I just think this is one of the unfortunate situations where it was a stressful situation and both parties could have handled it better. I definitely think the cop could have used more discretion and Moats could have tried to explain the situation better but when somebody repeatedly disobeys the cop when he is following them with his lights on and they are running red lights and running stop signs then the cop is going to have to feel disrespected and want to show this man the extent of the law.

To be honest with you I don't think the cop was completely in the wrong, and I feel like his chief is throwing him under the bus. I mean really running through red lights and running stop signs could hurt someone else. I know it is extremely stressful situation but it just sucks for both sides.

**spywizard** · 04-02-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

for what other reason would someone go through a red light to get to a hospital unless it was an emergency?

hahah.. so if he ran it and ran into your wife with your 2 yr old in the car and now you are left to raise a maimed child..

that's ok with you??

good luck with that..

situational ethics only go so far..

**spywizard** · 04-02-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

you obviously have watched way too many tv movies..

I speak from personal experience. Terminal disease does not take a person quickly, nor do doc or hospitals allow patients to lay around in significant pain..

The cop crossed the line, the "family" reacted reasonably to being stopped. Shit happens.. get over it..

Most terminal and Hospice care patients aren't there mentally, the care they are given is ridiculous, when you go through it 1st hand you'll know..

or perhaps you'll be the one chosen to decide the level of care for the person, and people will want to keep her home so that she can die in peace even if it means uncontrolled pain, but surrounded by those suffering with her, you can watch while she dehydrates and almost dies and then you can live with the guilt of having contributed to that painful death..

There are many options and I hope that when it's your turn, if you are tasked with such a heavy load you will be happy with the choices that you make.. because you will have to live with them for the rest of your life..

**lastrep1234** · 04-02-2009, 12:15 PM

Rode with a NYC cop back in the day, first off these guys have an extremely dangerous job, the city is a human ashtray, anyone of us would have a rough life doing this crap in NYC. I always will respect a city cop, cause i saw first hand what they go through(Its messed up)--but as far as the lame county cop--get a life and let these people see their dying relative!!!!

**BgMc31** · 04-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

hahah.. so if he ran it and ran into your wife with your 2 yr old in the car and now you are left to raise a maimed child..

that's ok with you??

good luck with that..

situational ethics only go so far..

That simply wasn't the case, though, Spy! He flashed down the oncoming traffic and basically got permission from the on-coming traffic to go through the light. Witnesses collaborated that. Let's face it brotha, the cop was wrong on all levels on this stop. Everyone recognizes the difficulty of cops job, but that still doesn't permit the guy to act in such a manner. And cops in the Dallas/Fort Worth area make a helluva lot more than $30K a year. Base pay (recruit) is around $41K. I believe this officer has been on the force for 5yrs, correct? Therefore his making in the $60K range. Still not enough but not nearly the exaggerated minial amount you quoted! LOL!!!

**j4ever41** · 04-02-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

You guys are ****ing cold hearted pricks to be honest.

It's not about the family, it's about being there, so your mother does not die ****ing alone in a hospital with no one at her side.

Does that really go over your head?

Suppose when the hospital calls when your mother is about to go, you'll just roll over and go back to sleep.

bump this, i am sure they said there fairwells many times but when the final moment comes its FINAL and yes maybe she was not there mental and emotionally i dont know and nobody else on here knows either but people want to be there for the person and themselves,i dont know what the specifics of this case is and neither do you Spy,these people could have been at her bedside for hours or days only left for a short peroid and were trying to get back and yes acute changes can happen in terminal cases, I dont see why it is so difficult to see that if the cop would have exercise some common sense this would not have happened.

**Nicotine** · 04-02-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

personally i think the cop did the right thing. i mean how do we know he didnt have weed on him? i would have detained him to ask some questions and do some drug tests on him.

please.

the roids you do, in the public's eye - are worse than a black man with a $25 bag of weed.....

and it doesnt matter IF he had weed on him. like that would make an single bit of difference in the grand scheme of things.

thank god you arn't a cop. it wouldn't be long till you're doing this same shit to other people.

"let me detain you, based on no grounds - that you MAY possibly have weed on you"

good job.......

***FireGuy*** · 04-03-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Nicotine

please.

the roids you do, in the public's eye - are worse than a black man with a $25 bag of weed.....

and it doesnt matter IF he had weed on him. like that would make an single bit of difference in the grand scheme of things.

thank god you arn't a cop. it wouldn't be long till you're doing this same shit to other people.

"let me detain you, based on no grounds - that you MAY possibly have weed on you"

good job.......

If you read this entire thread I think you will see Jigga is just being Sarcastic.

**quarry206** · 04-07-2009, 06:44 AM

they will probably just re-hire him again.. i have seen it alot in law enforcement they fire somebody so they can tell the paper they did it then re-hire him or find him another job at a near by place..