Dog lovers in Philly beware!

**Tarheel** · 08-13-2009, 07:28 PM

Michael Vick is an Eagle!

**Hoggage_54** · 08-13-2009, 07:30 PM

**Dancer** · 08-13-2009, 07:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2is4-J873MM

**TITANIUM** · 08-13-2009, 08:16 PM

Hey, I believe in free enterprise.

People have been fighting animals since the beginning.

It'll never change.

That reminds me, I owe this guy some money I lost in a cock fight.

Wait, he owes me.

F*CKER!!!

**quarry206** · 08-14-2009, 09:19 AM

i find it funny that Roy Jones Jr openly believe cock fighting was a natural sport and went to fights all the time and had his own cocks.....

and nobody ever said shit about that...

mike vick fights dogs and people say he should be kicked out of sports... now i realize his was a bigger case.. but still its not much different

**Mooseman33** · 08-14-2009, 10:17 AM

its not just the fact that he fought dogs..
it was how he got rid of dogs, the way he killed those dogs.

if roy jones said he smashed his animals on the ground till they died, drowned, shocked, buried alive, he would be in some shit..

**BgMc31** · 08-14-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by quarry206

i find it funny that Roy Jones Jr openly believe cock fighting was a natural sport and went to fights all the time and had his own cocks.....

and nobody ever said shit about that...

mike vick fights dogs and people say he should be kicked out of sports... now i realize his was a bigger case.. but still its not much different

It's called the 'Snoopy Syndrome'. People belive that overly domesticated animals (pets), shouldn't be treated in this manner. The question is, "Why is dogs life more important than a chicken?".

Moose, Vick wasn't charged for how he killed dogs. His was about running a criminal enterprise.

Someone please show me the outrage in horse racing and dog racing. Those animals are killed for underperformance as well. HBO's "Real Sports with Bryang Gumbel" has done series on both dog racing and horse racing and the ill humane treatment of those underperforming animals but there is no outrage. Why?

**Mooseman33** · 08-14-2009, 11:05 AM

read his plea agreement, that is what he admitted to and why peta and the public is outraged.
i know what he was charged and convicted with, however read his full plea what he agreed to and admitted to..

vick was a role model to youths, im sure if someone who was in the national spotlight like him did that shit to horses there would be the same outcry..

also, horses have no personality, dogs have character....

**Hunter** · 08-14-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

read his plea agreement, that is what he admitted to and why peta and the public is outraged.
i know what he was charged and convicted with, however read his full plea what he agreed to and admitted to..

vick was a role model to youths, im sure if someone who was in the national spotlight like him did that shit to horses there would be the same outcry..

also, horses have no personality, dogs have character....

Agree with you moose except horses do have personalities and learn. I agree we treat horses and greyhounds poorly BgMc

**Hazard** · 08-14-2009, 02:21 PM

even more reason to hate the eagles now.....

For the record..... how animals get treated in racing is every bit as wrong as what vick did..... i'd like to pick him up and smash him on the ground. Not till he died tho..... i'd like to leave him cohearant so he'd know when i was burying him alive.....

~Haz~

**Mooseman33** · 08-14-2009, 03:14 PM

luv it Haz....

i want to beat him with u bro, i will dig the hole...

**Tarheel** · 08-14-2009, 03:57 PM

I think it is kind of poetic justice that he now has to volunteer for the humane society or something like that..

**Hazard** · 08-14-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Tarheel

I think it is kind of poetic justice that he now has to volunteer for the humane society or something like that..

LOL thats awesome..... i hope they're making him clean up the dog sh*t for the dogs that don't have homes.....

~Haz~

**DSM4Life** · 08-14-2009, 04:42 PM

He committed a crime
He's convicted and serves his time put forth by our sytem
He does the time

He gets out and everyone still treats him like hes never served a day.

Now don't get me wrong i love dogs but if the man did his time, whats all the fuss about ?

**Hunter** · 08-14-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

He committed a crime
He's convicted and serves his time put forth by our sytem
He does the time

He gets out and everyone still treats him like hes never served a day.

Now don't get me wrong i love dogs but if the man did his time, whats all the fuss about ?

I think its becouse so many kids look up to him and he made so much money yet he wanted to do something so cruel and awful.

I dont think its a sports stars job to be a rolemodel but imo they should be, if that makes any sense.

**DSM4Life** · 08-14-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

I think its becouse so many kids look up to him and he made so much money yet he wanted to do something so cruel and awful.

I dont think its a sports stars job to be a rolemodel but imo they should be, if that makes any sense.

Our system says, you do the crime you do the time. He did. It doesn't say you do the time but never play professional football again.

Im just pointing that out.

I really don't know how i feel about it.

**Hazard** · 08-14-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Our system says, you do the crime you do the time. He did. It doesn't say you do the time but never play professional football again.

Im just pointing that out.

I really don't know how i feel about it.

If you did what he did..... you would have been put away for much longer..... the punishment didn't fit the crime IMO.....

~Haz~

**higherdesire** · 08-14-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

luv it Haz....

i want to beat him with u bro, i will dig the hole...

That is funny shit right there "hey you take on the professional athlete in a fight to the fininsh and I will dig a whole for one of you to lay in" Nice Moose Nice.

**DSM4Life** · 08-14-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

If you did what he did..... you would have been put away for much longer..... the punishment didn't fit the crime IMO.....

~Haz~

True

**ni4ni** · 08-14-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

If you did what he did..... you would have been put away for much longer..... the punishment didn't fit the crime IMO.....

~Haz~

Haz, very true. How about those fvcks in hollywood. Same thing applies- we do it and we get thrown under the jail.
legal pricks

**Hoggage_54** · 08-14-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

He committed a crime
He's convicted and serves his time put forth by our sytem
He does the time

He gets out and everyone still treats him like hes never served a day.

Now don't get me wrong i love dogs but if the man did his time, whats all the fuss about ?

You must be an Eagles fan!

**Hazard** · 08-14-2009, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Hoggage_54

You must be an Eagles fan!

i thought he liked the cowboys.....? Colon cowboys......

~Haz~

**quarry206** · 08-15-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

He committed a crime
He's convicted and serves his time put forth by our sytem
He does the time

He gets out and everyone still treats him like hes never served a day.

Now don't get me wrong i love dogs but if the man did his time, whats all the fuss about ?

I do agree with you, I think you do your time you are free to be normal again..

my only issue is actually the oppsite of most, their are guys in sports that have done worse, so why is vick downed and others aren't?

now I used the example of Roy jones jr, and though i'm glad he was never treated like that because i love him as a fighter.. the point is within reason he was doing about the same thing.

**Hazard** · 08-15-2009, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by quarry206

I do agree with you, I think you do your time you are free to be normal again..

my only issue is actually the oppsite of most, their are guys in sports that have done worse, so why is vick downed and others aren't?

now I used the example of Roy jones jr, and though i'm glad he was never treated like that because i love him as a fighter.. the point is within reason he was doing about the same thing.

Incase you or anyone is misunderstanding how i'm thinking......

ALL celebrities/athletes SHOULD be treated like the rest of society when it comes to crime. Did Vick get a harsher sentence than some other celebrities or athletes for doing the same thing or worse..... yes. Was it as bad of a sentence as you or I would have gotten...... NO.

I feel that what Vick did was absolutely inhumane, disgusting, and plain sick. He shoould have been punished harder for what he did. HOWEVER..... i also feel that ANYONE, celebrity or not, should be punished the SAME.

Is it fair that one NFL player can kill a human being and get less jail time than another NFL player who killed a bunch of dogs..... NO. That doesn't mean tho that vick should have gotten away with what he did or even should have had a lighter sentence.....

Did he pay his debt..... yea - but it's not like he can complain about how much he's had to repay. It could have and should have been much worse.

~Haz~

**quarry206** · 08-15-2009, 08:05 AM

^^ no i agree with you and my comment had nothing to do with yours...

**Hazard** · 08-15-2009, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by quarry206

^^ no i agree with you and my comment had nothing to do with yours...

~Haz~

**J-Dogg** · 08-15-2009, 09:06 AM

Honestly, On one hand I feel bad for the guy. In the south, dog fights are just common.

On the other hand, the NFL and NBA are very big on these stars being role modles for our youth. I was talking with my girl the other day and we were discussing the difference in today's world for a young male to be growing up, and a young woman.

Most young girls, grow up looking up to Britney Spears, Miley Cirus, girls with celeb type status, or big musicians. Girls grow up idolizing Britney, Christiana, Lindsey Lohan.

young males sports are still king. And these sports stars are expected by the organizations to up hold that status. I think it's great too. When they get in trouble, they are dropped from sponsors. They can't be out getting arrested, being obnoxious drunks in public.

Vick was using the blessings he was given, to run a underground dog fighting organization. He took his life, his gift and the money he made for granted.

**J-Dogg** · 08-15-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Incase you or anyone is misunderstanding how i'm thinking......

ALL celebrities/athletes SHOULD be treated like the rest of society when it comes to crime. Did Vick get a harsher sentence than some other celebrities or athletes for doing the same thing or worse..... yes. Was it as bad of a sentence as you or I would have gotten...... NO.

I feel that what Vick did was absolutely inhumane, disgusting, and plain sick. He shoould have been punished harder for what he did. HOWEVER..... i also feel that ANYONE, celebrity or not, should be punished the SAME.

Is it fair that one NFL player can kill a human being and get less jail time than another NFL player who killed a bunch of dogs..... NO. That doesn't mean tho that vick should have gotten away with what he did or even should have had a lighter sentence.....

Did he pay his debt..... yea - but it's not like he can complain about how much he's had to repay. It could have and should have been much worse.

~Haz~

Except a Me and You could not bank roll that operation.

I don't care about the legal sentence, but the NFL should have came down harder on him, and not reinstated him. The NFL does not need Vick, he needs them, and they should let that me known.

**spywizard** · 08-15-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Our system says, you do the crime you do the time. He did. It doesn't say you do the time but never play professional football again.

Im just pointing that out.

I really don't know how i feel about it.

actually, there are many limitations and continued punishment to a convicted felon..

lots of them..

social acceptance or rejection, judgment for his actions are based on people's opinions and value systems..

I still say he turned his back on his culture and his fathers' culture to appease the masses and to get on with his life..

nothing wrong with that, .. it works for politicians it can work for athletes..