Rate the president

**crazycoolguy007** · 03-31-2010, 02:51 PM

btw i gained about 10 lbs. im closer to 178lbs now. could i do your job now?

**Mooseman33** · 03-31-2010, 02:56 PM

i agree about birthplace does not make a man.

u quoted me about my job u said u would take, u dont even know what i do..

ur size prohibits u from doing one of my jobs...

and illegal immigration is bankrupting our country.
please see the link below:

Only in America

**Mooseman33** · 03-31-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by crazycoolguy007

btw i gained about 10 lbs. im closer to 178lbs now. could i do your job now?

i dont know, would u hire a bodyguard at 5'7 178lbs....

im already to small for what i do which is why i havent been getting alot of work, thank god its my second gig....

but keep training and growning my illegal buddy....

**Hazard** · 03-31-2010, 03:03 PM

maybe Americans can take some of the jobs that the illegals do since our unemployment rate is through the roof.....

~Haz~

**crazycoolguy007** · 03-31-2010, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

i agree about birthplace does not make a man.

u quoted me about my job u said u would take, u dont even know what i do..

ur size prohibits u from doing one of my jobs...

and illegal immigration is bankrupting our country.
please see the link below:

Only in America

Well the first half of those statistics came from an obiously bias source. By that i mean is they use all there formulas to calculate the monetary costs of illegal immigration but not a single stat on the monetary gains of illegal immigration. And well the second half of the stats came from links that dont even work. I know very well statistics can be manipulated easily. These arent very convincing non bias numbers.

Also i think that as long as a was willing to jump in front of a bullet i could be an awsome body guard. lol ahaha jk

**Mooseman33** · 03-31-2010, 03:12 PM

being shot is not fun....trust me.

as im sure alot of others on here can agree with me on...

i guess we will have to agree to disagree...

question - do the illegals u know as friends or family all speak english?

**crazycoolguy007** · 03-31-2010, 03:18 PM

Yes they do. For the most part the older they were when they got here the heavier the accent. Ironically tho those family members who dont speak english are the old ones who are either citizens or residents.

**Vettester** · 03-31-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

maybe Americans can take some of the jobs that the illegals do since our unemployment rate is through the roof.....

~Haz~

There's a million or so inner city residents in LA that collect welfare ... They could go to work, unemployment would drop, tax payers would get a break on welfare, medical, etc., ... Problem solved!

**gixxerboy1** · 03-31-2010, 03:41 PM

My wife went to the er once before we were married. She got a bill for around $500. i called to try and arrange payments. They asked if she was a citizen or had a green card. I said no the bill was dropped to $25

I went to the hospital this winter for emergency with no insurance. got a bill for just under $800. They would nothing except except a payments or report it to collections

**Hazard** · 03-31-2010, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

My wife went to the er once before we were married. She got a bill for around $500. i called to try and arrange payments. They asked if she was a citizen or had a green card. I said no the bill was dropped to $25

I went to the hospital this winter for emergency with no insurance. got a bill for just under $800. They would nothing except except a payments or report it to collections

heres where healthcare reform needs to start.....

~Haz~

**gixxerboy1** · 03-31-2010, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

heres where healthcare reform needs to start.....

~Haz~

I agree. i think its BS. i was happy she only had to pay $25 but thats crap. I could only imagine how many people they do that with and how much $ they are passing off to everyone else

Also i would have insurance if every company didnt deny me

**Kratos** · 03-31-2010, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by crazycoolguy007

hell we even had a surplus when he was around. and guess wat. economically speaking he was great too.

That's a myth and you shoouldn't repeat it.
average deficit was 130 billion for all years of his presidency
lowest deficit was 18 billion
his last year in office deficit was around 120 billion

Clinton inherited the "peace dividend"
no soviet union, no iraq...no war to pay for
yet taxes went up

In 1990 President Bush and a Democratic Congress raised taxes and passed the Budget Enforcement Act (BEA), which limited discretionary spending and included the “pay-as-you-go rule” (PAYGO). It was supposed to eliminate most of the deficit within five years.

Clinton and a Democratic Congress also passed the Omnibus Budget reconciliation Act (ORBA) which increased taxes and extended the BEA (from the Previous Bush administration).

In 1995 and 1996, Clinton gave in to demands by the new Republican Congress (the first in 40 years) to cut spending – according to the Wall Street Journal.

the dot com boom began providing huge growth in tax revenues for the government.

in spite of lower defense spending, overall government spending kept growing under Clinton. The gvmt was 25 percent bigger when clinton left office then when he went in.

Can you list one action that he did, that was good for the economy? Nah, you can't...he was simply lucky enough to be pres in the 90's.

If you like clinton that's cool, but don't perpetuate the surplus myth, cause it never happend. And the dot com's collapsed in 2000, his last year of presidency...not his fault but still before Bush...you can look back at the nasdaq if you want.

**Kratos** · 03-31-2010, 03:55 PM

if you ask me if you like obama durring the campaign you should love him now...he's doing everything in his power to overcome inertia in washington and deliver on exactly what he said he would.

I just happen do disagree with most of what he is working for...but make no mystake, he is working his ass off.

**Kratos** · 03-31-2010, 04:07 PM

I'm liking that he opened up domestic drilling and new nukes today
that's about it lately to be happy about

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**Bossman** · 03-31-2010, 04:43 PM

I give Obama a 4, more so just because our President and Ims an Amerikan.

I give the 1st Lady an 8, because I want to bend her over a chair, slap her ass and pull her hair!!

**Vettester** · 03-31-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I'm liking that he opened up domestic drilling and new nukes today
that's about it lately to be happy about

Agreed ... I saw a little bit of this at the gym today. Looks a little restrictive on the West Coast & AK, but at least it's a step in the right direction -IMO. I'm sure the Greenpeace guys are feeling duped!

**OH REALLY** · 04-01-2010, 10:11 AM

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**OH REALLY** · 04-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Look what i started.........................but seriously get your votes in/.....

**OH REALLY** · 04-01-2010, 10:15 AM

Subject: Sunday, 9pm on FOXNEWS.....

This Coming Sunday-- Set Your DVR This Sunday at 9:00 PM eastern. Maybe this is why the White House has been discounting FOX. Sounds like this could be History in the making - someone may go down - either Obama or Fox News. It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy. But, Obama has taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past. This Sunday Fox News, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9 P M Eastern. The report will go back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, I.e., how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he stated. The report has uncovered more of Obama's radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember. Mark your calendar and pass this on to everyone you know: Sunday night, 8 PM CT; 9 PM ET. Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism. If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone you know.

**Vettester** · 04-01-2010, 10:33 AM

^^ Got it marked for Sunday ^^

**Hazard** · 04-01-2010, 10:57 AM

I'll be tuning in.....

~Haz~

**OH REALLY** · 04-01-2010, 11:20 AM

i dont have cable

**zimmy** · 04-01-2010, 11:50 AM

He's doing an awful job but thanks to modern racism, he'll be noted in history as a great president despite not following through on so many promises.

I wish there was somewhere I could rate the voters and not the politician. After all, I don't blame bush for the decisions he made. I blame the millions of morons who voted for him. I rate the voters as 1 on a scale of 10. So long as the idiots hide behind parties instead of actually researching who they vote. I mean hell, VOTE FOR AN ELECTION OTHER THAN THE PRESIDENTIAL...jeez.

**Kratos** · 04-01-2010, 11:52 AM

So in an effort to bring republicans out for the mid term elections, the republican news channel will be rehashing and beating the dead horses in obama's past again.

I'm not sure a better system could be designed for nobody taking blame for anything then a two party system that alternates power and blames the other. 1984 has nothing on us.

**zimmy** · 04-01-2010, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I'm liking that he opened up domestic drilling and new nukes today
that's about it lately to be happy about

Bush did the started doing the same with domestic drilling...but received a different response from the public. I'M SURE since this is such a different and original ideal that the people will continue to support.

**Kratos** · 04-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by zimmy

Bush did the started doing the same with domestic drilling...but received a different response from the public. I'M SURE since this is such a different and original ideal that the people will continue to support.

bush opened up a lot of offshore drilling on his way out of office via a ban his father put in place. Obama put those plans on hold last year. This is good news regardless.

**JDawg1536** · 04-01-2010, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

So in an effort to bring republicans out for the mid term elections, the republican news channel will be rehashing and beating the dead horses in obama's past again.

I'm not sure a better system could be designed for nobody taking blame for anything then a two party system that alternates power and blames the other. 1984 has nothing on us.

Fox is always very fair and balanced. I'm sure the program airing this weekend won't be a complete waste.

**Mooseman33** · 04-01-2010, 01:01 PM

fox news has the highest rated shows on cable.

they are just killing everyone else in ratings...

**Kratos** · 04-01-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

Fox is always very fair and balanced. I'm sure the program airing this weekend won't be a complete waste.

I wouldn't worry your pretty democrat head that fox is about to take down obama...read this
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxnews.asp

**JDawg1536** · 04-01-2010, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

fox news has the highest rated shows on cable.

they are just killing everyone else in ratings...

I don't think so, Tim. Amish Grace on Lifetime currently has higher ratings than any Fox News show.

**JDawg1536** · 04-01-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I wouldn't worry your pretty democrat head that fox is about to take down obama...read this
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxnews.asp

I must have missed the part where I said I'm a democrat.

**Kratos** · 04-01-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

I must have missed the part where I said I'm a democrat.

oh plz
you're a latte drinking, tofu and sushi eating, new york times reading, volvo driving democrat...you don't have to outright say it or put on a yes we can sweatshirt with your birkinstocks.

**JDawg1536** · 04-01-2010, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

oh plz
you're a latte drinking, tofu and sushi eating, new york times reading, volvo driving democrat...you don't have to outright say it or put on a yes we can sweatshirt with your birkinstocks.

I don't drink coffee
I read the OC Register
I drive a Mustang Cobra and ride a Harley
I've voted in four elections my entire life and have never once voted for a democrat

I don't get the sushi reference

**Kratos** · 04-01-2010, 01:57 PM

I know you think you're a libertarian
but you seem to pick and choose where you apply the philosophy
hopefully you'll come all the way around in time

**JDawg1536** · 04-01-2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I know you think you're a libertarian
but you seem to pick and choose where you apply the philosophy
hopefully you'll come all the way around in time

I was unaware that ascribing to a political ideology meant one was taking on a new mind that must follow the philosophy of religious fundamentalism. Maybe I'll come around some day......