Just for Christians!

[zimmy]

Not that everyone isn't allowed, I just don't want this to become a debate.

It's good friday. Let's all remember what Jesus did for us on the cross.

[Mooseman33]

Amen brother.....

[Hunter]

Solid post zimmy

[DSM4Life]

*bites lip.

Have a good weekend guys.

[D7M]

^Thanks, DSM

You have a good weekend yourself...

[OH REALLY]

God bless

[ModelInProgress]

Happy Easter

[quarry206]

^^^^_______ I don't know what you are saying that

Easter means you have to go to your favorite place.

[ModelInProgress]

^^^^_______ I don't know what you are saying that

Easter means you have to go to your favorite place.

That doesn't mean that I can't wish a happy Easter to the other members here...it's not their fault that mine will suck!!! LOL

[BJJ]

Not that everyone isn't allowed, I just don't want this to become a debate.

It's good friday. Let's all remember what Jesus did for us on the cross.

...sorry but in order to remember something, something must have happened.

Have a nice week-end, this I can tell you, lol.

[zimmy]

It's funny how christians are constantly complained about for "forcing" there beliefs on people, but you can post something this simple without a non believer putting their beliefs into it.

It's ok though, I wasn't always christian .... I remember how tempting it was to argue with people about it when I let my ego get the best of me.

[JDawg1536]

It's funny how christians are constantly complained about for "forcing" there beliefs on people, but you can post something this simple without a non believer putting their beliefs into it.

It's ok though, I wasn't always christian .... I remember how tempting it was to argue with people about it when I let my ego get the best of me.

I hope you all have a wonderful Good Friday and a safe and Happy Easter!

Signed,
A Recovering Catholic

[FranciscoG]

Good Friday all.

[quarry206]

...sorry but in order to remember something, something must have happened.

Have a nice week-end, this I can tell you, lol.

all he said is jesus did something on the cross.. and historically speaking, that did happen..

so if you are reading black and white of what he said.. something did happen.

[BJJ]

It's funny how christians are constantly complained about for "forcing" there beliefs on people, but you can post something this simple without a non believer putting their beliefs into it.

It's ok though, I wasn't always christian .... I remember how tempting it was to argue with people about it when I let my ego get the best of me.

History = Facts

Ego does not have anything to do with historical facts, as far as I am concerned.

Facts, also, must be documentable in order to be part of the history, otherwise anyone can make his own story.

So, no facts, no history, no creed.
It is that simple!

Furthermore, to use an analogy on your words, it is funny like common people who never studied theology, believe in religions...

Again, have a nice week-end, lol.

[BJJ]

all he said is jesus did something on the cross.. and historically speaking, that did happen..

so if you are reading black and white of what he said.. something did happen.

[zimmy]

BJJ...You don't agree with the religion...cool. I was simply putting a post for christians to remember and appreciate an essential part of our religion. But YOUR ego required you to come in and debate the significants to you? Here are some facts:

1. This thread in no way attacked or discussed the logic of your beliefs.
2. No where in this thread was your beliefs asked about
3. Yet here you are forcing your beliefs into this thread.

So put the ego aside and let a christian send a thread that is directed to other people who don't share your beliefs. IF you want a stage in which to boast your beliefs and your superior studies and what not, start a thread. I promise if you start a thread saying JUST FOR THE DOUCHE BAGS, I won't bother commenting on the thread since that would be just for people like you (and I'm not refering to non-christians, because there are lots on here who are still respectful just as we are respectful to them).

[Kratos]

^why would you post that? he asked for no debate, just well wishing the holiday.^

happy holidays and a great weekend no matter what your faith

[quarry206]

i duno why your laughing, it is fact that a man named jesus was killed on a cross.. now if he was the son of god, if it happened in the spring, if he did raise 3 days later or the events around it people can debate..

no historian will say jesus as a man didn't live and killed

[Kratos]

i duno why your laughing, it is fact that a man named jesus was killed on a cross.. now if he was the son of god, if it happened in the spring, if he did raise 3 days later or the events around it people can debate..

no historian will say jesus as a man didn't live and killed

no, you can debate all of those things should you choose to do so
but I don't know why he's laughing because posting that just shows he has no class or respect
don't respond to him, it was a well intended nice thread
no need for those comments

[BJJ]

BJJ...You don't agree with the religion...cool. I was simply putting a post for christians to remember and appreciate an essential part of our religion. But YOUR ego required you to come in and debate the significants to you? Here are some facts:

1. This thread in no way attacked or discussed the logic of your beliefs.
2. No where in this thread was your beliefs asked about
3. Yet here you are forcing your beliefs into this thread.

So put the ego aside and let a christian send a thread that is directed to other people who don't share your beliefs. IF you want a stage in which to boast your beliefs and your superior studies and what not, start a thread. I promise if you start a thread saying JUST FOR THE DOUCHE BAGS, I won't bother commenting on the thread since that would be just for people like you (and I'm not refering to non-christians, because there are lots on here who are still respectful just as we are respectful to them).

You miss my point and your anger shows it all.

I am a Christian too, in the way that I promote many aspects of the human nature with the recurrence of love.

I just expressed my opinion, I did not want to start a debate.
Though, you replied to my post without quoting mine but reffering to me.
Smart move I woud say, or a craven one, it depends from the point of view.
In any case, do not hang it on me if then I replied to your post.

For your thread to be without a debate, you should not have replied since I just expressed my opinion.

Let's love each other, this is the real essence of The Christianity, isn't it?

[BJJ]

i duno why your laughing, it is fact that a man named jesus was killed on a cross.. really? are you sure? now if he was the son of god, if it happened in the spring, if he did raise 3 days later or the events around it people can debate..

no historian will say jesus as a man didn't live and killed who historians do you know, lol?

If Jesus had been executed, certainly would not have been placed on a cross wooden structure with open arms. The stauros was a simple pole which was used in the most cruel way to execute criminals and other people.
There is not proof that the stauros was cross-shaped or on a T form. Historians are aware of this error noted on sacred texts but voluntarily never took any action to correct it.
In Christian's art the cross does not appear until the first half of the V century but the first real crucified will show up only in the late VII century.
Understood? VII century!!!
In fact, until then, Jesus was almost always symbolized by a fish or represented as a pastor, and has never been depicted on a cross.

What is clear from this?
...that common people believe without having studied! This is a fact.

[BJJ]

no, you can debate all of those things should you choose to do so
but I don't know why he's laughing because posting that just shows he has no class or respect
don't respond to him, it was a well intended nice thread
no need for those comments

That was not a laugh! ...those are showed with other icons, did not you notice that?

And I did not want to lack respect towards anyone, simply because people who believe with closed eyes, firstly, do not respect themselves.

[cobra305]

I am not a religious man but shouldn't we let people have their beliefs without imposing our own upon them? This post began with I do not want this to be a debate. Let each have their own and start a different thread too debate personal beliefs. Happy easter to all, whatever it means to you.

[Kratos]

That was not a laugh! ...those are showed with other icons, did not you notice that?

And I did not want to lack respect towards anyone, simply because people who believe with closed eyes, firstly, do not respect themselves.

and maybe all the books and information the great social experiment has provided you are a lie. Your understanding of the total universe is no more complete regardless. The only diffence is they know they are practicing religion

[BJJ]

and maybe all the books and information the great social experiment has provided you are a lie. Your understanding of the total universe is no more complete regardless. The only diffence is they know they are practicing religion

You and I should meet each other and have a cup of coffee together, or a pint of beer if you prefer.

[Kratos]

If Jesus had been executed, certainly would not have been placed on a cross wooden structure with open arms. The stauros was a simple pole which was used in the most cruel way to execute criminals and other people.
There is not proof that the stauros was cross-shaped or on a T form. Historians are aware of this error noted on sacred texts but voluntarily never took any action to correct it.:

and if you studied anything but the size of your a-hole you'd know that too is debatable...yet you state it as fact
fyi...jahovah's witnesses think your explaination to be the correct one
there is a good deal of evidence to the contrary

[BJJ]

and if you studied anything but the size of your a-hole you'd know that too is debatable...yet you state it as fact
fyi...jahovah's witnesses think your explaination to be the correct one
there is a good deal of evidence to the contrary

Jahovah's witnesses?


That was a laugh, lol.

Anything can be debatable, that is why we should rely only on proofs.

[Kratos]

in an ideal world we'd have absoloute proof for everything
but at least in our life here on earth, we have proof of nothing except that we are here at least in perception.

[quarry206]

Jahovah's witnesses?


That was a laugh, lol.

Anything can be debatable, that is why we should rely only on proofs.

i'm not religious, and i do read history.

if you want to read really into everything there is no right and wrong only popular opinion. but when there are enough evidence one way or another you have to admit something... the point is you are jumping over people for believing or not believing. but as kratos pointed out nobody is more informed or not. because you are still only reading what somebody else did or believed in research. so unless you lived in the time of 6BC-40AD the times in debate here.. then all you are is attempting to be an ass by giving your opinion on something that never included you.

I dont' go to church nor even own a bible. but I do not go bashing anybody for believing in something that gives them morals of some type or gives them peace..

my only comments in this thread where to modelinprogress in a joke about what i know she is doing sunday

[BJJ]

in an ideal world we'd have absoloute proof for everything
but at least in our life here on earth, we have proof of nothing except that we are here at least in perception.

What you are quoting is correct in a general way but thousands of scripts, texts, books and documents referring to historical facts are not a perception.
Otherwise, the Vatican Library would be a perception too.
Of course, one must have read them in order to know why they are reliable, or at least some of them.

[quarry206]

What you are quoting is correct in a general way but thousands of scripts, texts, books and documents referring to historical facts are not a perception.
Otherwise, the Vatican Library would be a perception too.
Of course, one must have read them in order to know why they are reliable, or at least some of them.

i don't think anybody was debating that there is large amounts of history that the church has written to paint themselves in a better light.. or that there is verse in the bible itself that go against each other..

but religion will makes people feel better, and maybe they are 100 percent right.. you nor I know. so let people be happy with their life.

[alexISthrowed]

It's funny how christians are constantly complained about for "forcing" there beliefs on people, but you can post something this simple without a non believer putting their beliefs into it.

It's ok though, I wasn't always christian .... I remember how tempting it was to argue with people about it when I let my ego get the best of me.

100% agreed. I dont care what religion someone is, but I get very annoyed if they try to push it on me.

[BJJ]

i'm not religious, and i do read history.

if you want to read really into everything there is no right and wrong only popular opinion. but when there are enough evidence one way or another you have to admit something... the point is you are jumping over people for believing or not believing. but as kratos pointed out nobody is more informed or not. because you are still only reading what somebody else did or believed in research. so unless you lived in the time of 6BC-40AD the times in debate here.. then all you are is attempting to be an ass by giving your opinion on something that never included you.

I dont' go to church nor even own a bible. but I do not go bashing anybody for believing in something that gives them morals of some type or gives them peace..

my only comments in this thread where to modelinprogress in a joke about what i know she is doing sunday

You do not get the point! are you a friend of zimmy?

I am speaking about general indoctrination here.
You cannot come to me telling me you are a christian when you did not study anything about this huge time period.
You cannot come to me telling me you believe Gesù died on a cross when you do not even know that crosses showed up in the VII century.

Do you understand what I mean; you and your friends do you understand what I am talking about?

If nothing can be trusted, at least put your hands on the knowledge available to make up your mind.
Otherwise, why are we "wasting" many years of our lives going to get an education?

Come on guys, are you all kids here?

Gesù Cristo!!! who am I wasting my time with!

[Hunter]

Way to screw up a thread bjj. By the way you're such a troll. You pretend to have trouble understanding english but at other times grasp it perfectly. I am not sure if other have caught onto this but I have. So all in all you're pretty much a d-bag.

[Kratos]

What you are quoting is correct in a general way but thousands of scripts, texts, books and documents referring to historical facts are not a perception.
Otherwise, the Vatican Library would be a perception too.
Of course, one must have read them in order to know why they are reliable, or at least some of them.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. It makes no sense.

[rsnake21]

u dont have to love Jesus, just remember that he loves u

[zimmy]

It seriously disturbs me to know that your pride and ego seem to have no end. We are all ignorant on this board except for you. Happy now? Now go and dance around and proclaim your superiority some where else. You label us as kids and yet you act like one who hounds for attention. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE THREAD. This was not in the political forum. IT is a thread to thank Jesus and god in a thread FOR CHRISTIANS. I even posted a title that it was for christians so that I did not offend nor waste the time of non-christians. So now that I have proclaimed you wise and all knowing can you please leave the thread for it's intended purpose.

[Kratos]

You do not get the point! are you a friend of zimmy?

I am speaking about general indoctrination here.
You cannot come to me telling me you are a christian when you did not study anything about this huge time period.
You cannot come to me telling me you believe Gesù died on a cross when you do not even know that crosses showed up in the VII century.

Do you understand what I mean; you and your friends do you understand what I am talking about?

If nothing can be trusted, at least put your hands on the knowledge available to make up your mind.
Otherwise, why are we "wasting" many years of our lives going to get an education?

Come on guys, are you all kids here?

Gesù Cristo!!! who am I wasting my time with!

Pushing your view point as the correct one and the information you hold to be important is a lot like preaching, isn't it?

[BJJ]

Way to screw up a thread bjj. By the way you're such a troll. You pretend to have trouble understanding english but at other times grasp it perfectly. I am not sure if other have caught onto this but I have. So all in all you're pretty much a d-bag.

Never said I have trouble understanding English.
It was said the first time by *el diablo* and then by marcus300 when he interviewed me. So, ask them in case.

If you have read around the forum some words from me saying that, I was simply using sarcasm.

I love you too and hope to meet you someday to show you how much I love you, lol.