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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    if you can handle yourself and have strength your fine, drunks are easy to win against
    Not saying I can't do the job. I covered shifts for people a few times. Just not really what most bars in my area are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Personal Trainer!

    or internet forum know-it-all!
    I've thought about this a lot lately too. I'll have to get certified but it shouldn't be too hard.

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    I think an "internet know it all" would be perfect.
    Start a forum where members have to pay a little fee to get expert help in something that you are REALLY a know--it-all in.....whether it be "how to sell" or "how to pick up girls" with, of course, counsel by ME

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    Personal Trainer? no certificate needed for the same group that owns the dogs I was talking about.....
    just show up at their door and get them outside......and if with a dog too...you charge more

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    I think an "internet know it all" would be perfect.
    Start a forum where members have to pay a little fee to get expert help in something that you are REALLY a know--it-all in.....whether it be "how to sell" or "how to pick up girls" with, of course, counsel by ME
    Yeah that would actually probably work lol. The simplest ideas are always the most rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    Personal Trainer? no certificate needed for the same group that owns the dogs I was talking about.....
    just show up at their door and get them outside......and if with a dog too...you charge more
    This is true. I'd have to do some real marketing to get to a steady income tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    I've thought about this a lot lately too. I'll have to get certified but it shouldn't be too hard.
    Certification isnt hard if you study the material out there. The main thing that any gym wants to see is that there is some sort of knowledge base so that you don't harm clients. If you have the exercise prescription down, all the other stuff falls into place with a bit of book work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    I've thought about this a lot lately too. I'll have to get certified but it shouldn't be too hard.
    dont know about over there, but here its quite expensive to do and then you have to actually get accepted by a gym and pay them rent which can be extortinate in some. you then have to build a client base, PT'ing can be very stressful from a business point of view, clients come and go and let you down constantly, i wouldnt recommend it as a part time occupation. better off just being an ordinary fitness instructor and get paid a wage rather than scrambling for business all the time. of course, things could be diff over there........

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    dont know about over there, but here its quite expensive to do and then you have to actually get accepted by a gym and pay them rent which can be extortinate in some. you then have to build a client base, PT'ing can be very stressful from a business point of view, clients come and go and let you down constantly, i wouldnt recommend it as a part time occupation. better off just being an ordinary fitness instructor and get paid a wage rather than scrambling for business all the time. of course, things could be diff over there........
    It cost my buddy $200 for his certification. So not too bad. I would be a fitness instructor before a pt. Maybe work at a golds where they get your clients for you. Then after a year or so of building a base switch over to working per customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Certification isnt hard if you study the material out there. The main thing that any gym wants to see is that there is some sort of knowledge base so that you don't harm clients. If you have the exercise prescription down, all the other stuff falls into place with a bit of book work.
    I'm gonna look a little deeper into it. I know it's something I could do.

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    Start your own prostitution business... "Stack_it's House O Hoes" incorporated. Of course you would need to personally sample all of your workers to make sure they are up to your standards.

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    Maybe I should do that shol lol. I'll change it to stick_it's house of hoes

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    Stackit when you say you graduated in 04 do you mean highschool or college? Because you talked about how you go to school still 3 days a week and that was a bit confusing. Either way if you were talking about highschool is ok to be confused while you're still in college, but if you graduated college 6 years ago and still don't know what you want to do thats a serious issue imo.
    Its serious because you're likely not getting the experience you need in the areas you need to do something you like.

    A career becomes basically part of your lifestyle. So plan on devoting a lot of time and you really should settle this once and for all.
    If I was you I'd obviously take the sales route. Fvck being a bank teller or a bartender. Noone would accept you as once you even get done with the training you're
    gonna have guys with 10 years experience and no job taking your position. Not to mention if you know any sales techniques you technically have "experience" in sales, can undergo further training for sales, then get your contracting license which is where the big bucks are at.

    I use to do it nonlicensed with my brother who has his license, and I've never made so much money in my life doing it. For what is literally 1-2 hours of work sometimes you make as much as 4 or 5 grand, other days you don't make a penny, but thats the nature of contracting. If you're good at it (which if you're not anything can be learned) you could easily pull a 6 digit income ever year.

    You can start out by finding places who are looking for contractors. Basement waterproofing has a lot of money in it and its fun. The only requirement really is that
    you sometimes have to be a snake to make a sale. But in the end you realize there is very little room for morals in the industry. I'm not talking about lying to people but a lot of these sales people use researched psychological strategies for "fear injection" or ways for building rapport and trust with customers when realistically they
    have no reason to trust you at all.
    My brother sold likely over 100 french drains just by asking the homes he went into if they were feeling tired or drained most of the time. He had researched links to mold and lethargy, and because these homes all had mold, was able to sell waterproofing systems that sell upwards to $20,000 sometimes. I mean the foundations needed it but the reality is many of these places may not have actually needed the system for another 5-10 years still the foundation started eroding away from moisture.
    Its what I've loved the most about sales is when you see what some of these animal salesmen do you begin to realize that almost 90% of the people who come to your home to sell ANYTHING, even if its fvcking sears putting a fridge in, they are always using some sort of technique or tactic to sell more than they need to. I've also kicked salesmen out of my house on multiple occassions for using evidence they couldn't prove as means to selling a service or system I knew damn well I didn't need. But like I said the majority of regular folks who don't know shit about sales will buy into this shit.
    Heres one example and I actually got this guy fired by calling the towns sewage department. Our toilet gets clogged. We plunge it, snake it, put chemicals down there, and nothing is unclogging the toilet. We call "Roto Reuter" and they send a guy out. Guy comes out, sees water in the street the second he arrives. Knows the SECOND he came into our house our pipe in the street was cracked and that was the real problem, but still chooses to remove our toilet, "inspect" it, and charge us for it.
    Then to make matters worse, this dickhead tells us we have a cracked sewage pipe which will restrict us from using ANY water in the house at anytime unless we get it fixed immediately and since their company ALREADY did "work" (that they didn't fvckn need to) they would give us a "discount" if we wound up calling them to fix the pipe as well which was running about $1800.
    So using my brain, and knowing how salesmen are I google "cracked sewage pipe" into the computer. Read for about 3 hours and guess what I find? If the crack is on the sidewalk or road, the town is responsible for fixing it.
    If its on the lawn of the homeowner than the homeowner is responsible for fixing it. These companies KNOW THIS SHIT, but still try to steal work the town is responsible for so the homeowner pays them instead (vs paying no money to the town as they pay for it), money they don't even have to fvckn pay. I went outside and you can clearly see the crack is between the sidewalk and the road, right on the edge of the sidewalk but like 3 feet from our lawn.
    I wind up through my uncle calling his friend plumber who he trusts and had been using his whole life. BEST most HONEST plumber I've ever met in my life. Also quite
    the "firecracker" of a man. He gets very angry when I tell him the story, calls roto reuter and tells them hes calling the town to tell them they're trying to steal business from them. Get this, roto reuter fires the plumber, and blames it on him. But if he sold the job, that plumber knew damn well roto reuter would be coming
    in to do the work and wouldn't have mentioned an iota about the fvckn laws of the township.

    This crap has happened in a thousand different ways with different companies over the years and I never started noticing it untill I myself started to become experienced in sales. Had a fvckn exterminator once identify a mouse nest as an "infestation" and reason to pay for business so they can drop toxic chemicals
    in our basement then charge us for it. Little did he know I was a raging mouse expert, who had worked at petsmart in my earlier days for 6 years, and could
    clearly tell it was a nest from at least 10 years ago. I asked him "if the nest has clearly been there since before we even put that wall in, whats the point of
    treating now?". And he tried to devise the worst excuse why. I told him unless he found other evidence of a recent infestation I wouldn't be using him. Not to
    mention he came out for a yearly check up to check our backyard traps, and somehow wound up in my basement looking for business for his company.

    At any rate salesmen are shady shadeballs with little to no ethics at all. But it is also why I love sales as much as I do. I haven't found out exactly what I want
    to do as I literally just got my degree this January, but it will undoubtebly be in sales. Good luck whatever you do but sales is really something thats either in your
    blood or its not. For a loong time I told myself I was going to be a counselor or therapist but its clearly not me, sales is.

    Oh and sorry for the short post haha.
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    if you are a half decent swimmer get lifeguard certified i worked at an indoor pool all winter through school its the easiest most stress free way to make decent money.

    one time i was in the drunk tank and a man with no teeth told me sellin rocks is where its at so you could try that route

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    Bojangles: sorry for the confusion in the op. I graduated highschool in 04 and went to college for two years for what I was positive I wanted to do as a career (automotive repair and refinishing). I worked part time sales during college and excelled in that. Once I finished school I got a job in a body shop and realized I didn't want to spend the rest of my life sanding and painting cars so I decided to go back to sales full time. I've got sales in my blood so to speak. I've always been the company leader and have a great customer return rate. I just have the natural ability to bullshit and talk to people. I can find out what there thinking and use that to my advantage.

    I decided to leave the car sales last January due to the failing economy, the danger of my job, and the ups and downs of sales. I did valet for a while which was ok but was a tipped based job where my money was based on the luck of the draw by how great a tipper the person was rather than how good of a job I was doing since the customer interaction was low. So I left there and got a part time job selling furniture. I have been top of this company since I got there but it's not interesting to me. There's no haggling on prices and no fun in the job. It's not challenging and that may be why I don't like it anymore. At first it was ok but now it's just the same shit day after day.

    I'm currently enrolled back in college for mechanical engineering. I love to travel and ideally would like to do contract work after I graduate. The reason I want to get away from sales is because I'm my opinion it hard to make steady money in part time sales. Your customers want you to be available when it's most convenient for them and if you're not then a large majority of them will just talk to the next person in line. Sales are great but it's better full time. Being in school and trying to support myself I want something more consistent. I'll have enough stress with calc exams and the like that I'd like the money flow to stay steady rather than the ups and downs of commission based jobs.

    I think I answered your whole post lol. Let me know if I missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettVarvre View Post
    if you are a half decent swimmer get lifeguard certified i worked at an indoor pool all winter through school its the easiest most stress free way to make decent money.

    one time i was in the drunk tank and a man with no teeth told me sellin rocks is where its at so you could try that route
    I'm a good swimmer but it hard to find a lifeguard job when there's 8" of snow on the ground lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    It cost my buddy $200 for his certification. So not too bad. I would be a fitness instructor before a pt. Maybe work at a golds where they get your clients for you. Then after a year or so of building a base switch over to working per customer.
    thts fvckin cheap, most UK/ire courses are around the £600 mark, or were when i was PT'ing. you the have to reg with a company called REPS and they sting you for more cash and then theres your insurance, and upfront 1st month gym rent (some charge a deposit also!) all tht to fork out for before you even attract your 1st client. i dont think i'd ever go back to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    if you can handle yourself and have strength your fine, drunks are easy to win against
    and always be first strike....

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    Curious how this is going stackit I've started looking for another sales job myself. Since you graduated from college can't you go back to your schools workplace coordinator?
    I only recently just got my BA so I still get the special job lists my uni sends out every 2 weeks for employment. The lists are really nice sometimes, other times they're pretty bland.

    My brother is talking to his boss to see if he knows any good sales positions that are open or possible training I can undergo in the meantime. I know you say sales is up and down which it is, I definitely agree, but certain positions are more up than down. My brother said he's closing at least 60% of the jobs hes doing and seems he's been pulling in at least 2 thousand a week, but his job is also seasonal and by summertime he won't be closing shit.

    I know what you mean though man you want something either more stable or somethings more up than down. I think furniture is almost always slow, and especially in this environment I don't expect people to be spluring on that much new stuff for their home. I mean they do, but you might want to consider venturing towards something more home improvement related. Maybe do roof contracting, siding, foundation, remodeling, basement waterproofing etc. My father is a roofing contractor he sells a lot of jobs just the problem is his boss is frugal fvck and commissions suck.

    But if you find anything interesting let me know I've also been looking around myself to see if theres anything better out there.

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    dude advertise in the newspaper like you can help people lose weight like as their at home trainer...dont get certified just know your shit. What are they gonna do ask for your certification when you walk in lol.

    Also friday I saw the movie The Mechanic, I am gonna go ahead and drop out of college and follow in jason stathams footsteps in real life haha. I just need some clients lol. If you would like to become my partner in crime I think we can arrange something lol jk

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    Starting a business is a great idea (never saw the movie but am assuming it was something like that).
    I started my own small business, and it turned out way more lucrative than I expected, but at the same time it doesn't require lots of my resources.
    And by "lucrative" I mean for the amount of time I spend really. I do less than 1 days work a week and bring in about 30g a year profit. So its great,
    but I don't consider it durable by any means.
    I had a lot of time off because I was out of work, but now if I can find a more sustainable second income, I could put myself in a much much better
    position than before. As of now though, the sales I do is for a company where 4 of the 5 salesmen were let off. I'm literally the only one left as the
    company is soon going under.
    Rather then venture back into another sales job, I was thinking about getting into something completely different. But I have just as much need as
    the OP here to just hear ideas. I have a BA in psych, not business, although it doesnt really matter I find for sales job. Still, I was looking at
    "lucrative" psychology career options, and nearly all of them are business oriented in some fashion. I just want something where I'm more helping
    people or using more of my psych skills. Human resource managment looked interesting and I'm curious if anyone on here does it?

    I wish we had like an official job thread on here because this site gets a ton of traffic and it would be great to network with people or just get ideas.
    But like the OP I want something durable, thats not gonna go down with our economy like the place I'm working for now. Any advice would really
    be helpful. And I can't expand my current business as I've already considered that, thanks!

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    if you dont make it as a porn star see if you can be a "fluffer" (someone who gets the male actors hard before they go on set) hahah jk

    i dont know where you live but if you can handle working in the weather the the car wash industry isnt to bad. i worked one for awhile while in high school got paid min. wage plus tips most days it averaged 20$ an hr sometimes more.

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    Most people might think that was more a peasant type of job but I worked at one myself many years ago. The trick imo is to find
    privately owned carwashes that cater to a wealthy clientel. But like you say even on the weekdays I'd make about $20/hr with tips,
    on the weekends, a sat alone it wouldn't be rare to go home with $300 cash in my pocket not even counting the small check I'd
    get on fridays.
    Some weeks I'd make $500, other weeks almost around $800. I fvckn loved that job too and when I was out of work had went back
    and of course they were fully loaded. But it wouldn't hurt to go back and try again. I can't wait on tables or do barback as I hated
    dealing with drunks but the tips at carwashes can sometimes be insane. I remember when the guys with jags would come in and literally
    20bucks for 5mins work, was really great.
    I'm going to try again but in the meantime people keep posting ideas! I'm sure theres lots of knowledge on this forum and in this
    climate it takes an awful lot of rejections to get in anywhere really. Thanks again.

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