Do You Believe In GOD?

[DSM4Life]

How about this: God is that than which no greater can be conceived.

And if anyone has such an anthropomorphic understanding that they think God is some old guy in the sky, then I feel bad for them



^Really? That's your best argument?

I mean, I get it, you don't like religion because some religious people don't like gays.

There's also plenty of politicans who aren't pro-gay. Do you dislike them equally?

Hell, for that matter, there's plenty of gays who have done pretty nasty things to other people in the name of their "civil rights".

There is no real argument just showing one example. You already know my beliefs. I posted them twice.

[Shol'va]

Religion and politics will always be 2 hot button topics thats probably best left out of forum conversation. Usually someones feelings or anger gets involved. With that said, yeah Westboro sucks.

[Ernst]

I think we can all agree on that.

[Ernst]

I think mankind would be better off without God. Whether or not he exists could be considered irrelevant to my argument. We spend too much time and money fighting over our beliefs (read: imaginary friends). Instead of exploring and expanding our knowledge, we sit here on this insignificant ball of dirt blowing each other away over nothing.

That's the short and less offensive version of my personal views.

Want to fight? Try believing in fairness. You'll find a reason to fight everywhere you look.

[BgMc31]

Really, then I am glad I do not know you personally...

Are you sure you read the Bible?

Trust me BJJ I could give two f*cks whether you know me or not. See this is exactly why these debates go nowhere. Clowns like this make it personal. Yes, I've read the bible, the Quoran, and the Torah, as well as many other holy books. What does that have to do with the debate? Do you honestly believe that nothing in any holy book is of moral value? C'mon man!!!

[dec11]

the reason im bowing out of this is bcos ppl in this debate have read the bible and will argue points on it and talk from a higher point of superiority. im not condeming any of these ppl just bcos in a this instance they are better read than i.

ive only this to say : i havent read it because it would be a waste of time, i dont believe. its a myth to me, there are more interesting fictions called novels.

[layeazy]

yeah ireland dec11 its crazy what went on over there and still going on but the positive is that some great movies were made about it lol

Just thought i would add that comment to dampen the mood a bit.....

If God makes ppl happy makes me happy PEACE

[dec11]

yeah ireland dec11 its crazy what went on over there and still going on but the positive is that some great movies were made about it lol

Just thought i would add that comment to dampen the mood a bit.....

If God makes ppl happy makes me happy PEACE

very true aswell mate

[dec11]

yeah ireland dec11 its crazy what went on over there and still going on but the positive is that some great movies were made about it lol

Just thought i would add that comment to dampen the mood a bit.....

If God makes ppl happy makes me happy PEACE

trust me, those fighting in the north do not want the economy of the republic. i moved to the republic afew years back and its an expensive rip off country. and at the end of the day i cant understand why they have this notion of fighting england, sure nowadays its a multinational country, who exactly are they fighting?!dublin is just the same as any major english city ffs.
they should unite ireland, make it all british, it'd be cheaper living!!! ands thts coming from a catholic lol

[stevey_6t9]

[dec11]

this site should be renamed zzyzbuttbros dot com. lmao

[layeazy]

Yeah True Dec11

but if i lived in your weather i would be pretty angry too lol


THE GOD of metrosexuals....seeing that pic need more lat development and arms are too big for his chest

[dec11]

Yeah True Dec11

but if i lived in your weather i would be pretty angry too lol


THE GOD of metrosexuals....seeing that pic need more lat development and arms are too big for his chest

yeah, its a bit of a pisser, literally lol. but in saying tht, thankfully its a stable climate, alot of warmer climates are suffering tragic weather events

[jbm]

Yes I do believe in God!

[BJJ]

Trust me BJJ I could give two f*cks whether you know me or not. See this is exactly why these debates go nowhere. Clowns like this make it personal. Yes, I've read the bible, the Quoran, and the Torah, as well as many other holy books. What does that have to do with the debate? Do you honestly believe that nothing in any holy book is of moral value? C'mon man!!!

For your information, the Bible is just a script (manipulated over the history) that contradicts itself in many aspects. In any case, this thread was not about the Bible so I will let it be...
...but remember this, a holy book is holy because we want it to be that way since no God incarnated him/her self to write it! clear enough?

With all the respect lol, and I apologize for the sentence written in my previous post "I am glad I do not know you personally" which I did not mean at all, I would humbly advise you to figure out that the three monotheist religions came from the same root and to answer your question it has to do a lot in regard of the debate because people around the world are forced to fight against each other because of a God that they decleare to be unique.

If you were a Japanese, a Groenlandese or a whateverelse, what God would you believe?
Ahuramazdah? or what about the holy book of Bahá'ísmo? did you read that too?

Holy books are romances, lol.

[Public Enemy]

I'm muslim so I believe in god. But I don't really like discussing this issue its one of those discussions that ends up nowhere at the end of the day. Its a personally matter for many Christians, Muslims, Jews, and others and its also personal fo those who don't believe in god. I think if people are happy with their faith (Whatever that may be), then they should be left in peace.

[BJJ]

I'm muslim so I believe in god. But I don't really like discussing this issue its one of those discussions that ends up nowhere at the end of the day. Its a personally matter for many Christians, Muslims, Jews, and others and its also personal fo those who don't believe in god. I think if people are happy with their faith (Whatever that may be), then they should be left in peace.

Agreed, but how many people are really happy with their faith because of a personal choice elaborated by knowledge or instead they think to be happy because of the education they were forced to receive?

[Public Enemy]

Agreed, but how many people are really happy with their faith because of a personal choice elaborated by knowledge or instead they think to be happy because of the education they were forced to receive?

I see what your saying. Many were simply born into a religion or certain belief which is why I think people of all faiths should give more interest in what they believe. You will be surprised how many people call themselves one thing but do and act completely contrary. At the end of the day I really don't care what the person next to me believes, or what they look like or what sexual orientation they are, or where they are from. As long as they are good people that way. We can at least all agree that we are humans sharing the same world.

[lovbyts]

well oddly enough, I only see the penguin! and I am not kidding.....always have so I guess it stuck...

Not to get off topic but What penguin? I only see what it is and most of those ink blot test and other eye test with pictures in-bedded I usually see what it is but not this time. Only a bloody tongue. I also remember the post of the guy who stuck his tongue doing oral whinny. Funny sh*t.

[BJJ]

I see what your saying. Many were simply born into a religion or certain belief which is why I think people of all faiths should give more interest in what they believe. You will be surprised how many people call themselves one thing but do and act completely contrary. At the end of the day I really don't care what the person next to me believes, or what they look like or what sexual orientation they are, or where they are from. As long as they are good people that way. We can at least all agree that we are humans sharing the same world.

Agreed,
but I would love to know what "good people" means for you.

[clemont51]

Our european ancestors had a most admiral code of conduct/religion.
Google "Odin". "Wotan", or "Havamal".

[Matt]

Id like to know why all the apostles became saints and Jesus didn't? I mean did he fill the application in wrong because he missed out there....

[DSM4Life]

Id like to know why all the apostles became saints and Jesus didn't? I mean did he fill the application in wrong because he missed out there....

He was busy that day.

[BJJ]

Id like to know why all the apostles became saints and Jesus didn't? I mean did he fill the application in wrong because he missed out there....

Simply because he is part of the Holy Trinity, which is above anything.

[BgMc31]

For your information, the Bible is just a script (manipulated over the history) that contradicts itself in many aspects. In any case, this thread was not about the Bible so I will let it be...
...but remember this, a holy book is holy because we want it to be that way since no God incarnated him/her self to write it! clear enough?

With all the respect lol, and I apologize for the sentence written in my previous post "I am glad I do not know you personally" which I did not mean at all, I would humbly advise you to figure out that the three monotheist religions came from the same root and to answer your question it has to do a lot in regard of the debate because people around the world are forced to fight against each other because of a God that they decleare to be unique.

If you were a Japanese, a Groenlandese or a whateverelse, what God would you believe?
Ahuramazdah? or what about the holy book of Bahá'ísmo? did you read that too?

Holy books are romances, lol.

Because of the fact that I consider myself well versed in many religious beliefs and I also realize that all three of the dominant religions of today derive from the same place. And I also know that they are simply retellings of stories from other ancient religions (namely ancient egyptian, mesopatanian, etc.).

With that said, I don't subscribe to every moral belief and the Bible or any other holy book. I just apply what I feel, personally, works for me. I chose Christianity because it most closely falls along the same lines of my thinking. But I, by no means, believe in everything in the Bible, nor do I follow it dogmatically.

Like I said before, religion, is a personal choice. I don't fault any man or woman for their beliefs system if it makes them a better person. My problem with threads like this is that it becomes a justification as to why I believe what I do. Why should I have to justify my beliefs? Should be of no consequence to you or others. And yes, I do understand that religion, from its inception, has been the reason for more bloodshed than any other reason. Please don't insult my intelligence as I have not insulted yours or asked you to justify your beliefs. It's a personal choice and should not be bemoaned, unless I have done something to harm you personally.

[dips]

i believe in God, nothing else could have changed me from what i was to what i am. tried alot of times to do it on my own, but only surrendering to him worked and still does. just my 2cents.

[dips]

Because of the fact that I consider myself well versed in many religious beliefs and I also realize that all three of the dominant religions of today derive from the same place. And I also know that they are simply retellings of stories from other ancient religions (namely ancient egyptian, mesopatanian, etc.).

With that said, I don't subscribe to every moral belief and the Bible or any other holy book. I just apply what I feel, personally, works for me. I chose Christianity because it most closely falls along the same lines of my thinking. But I, by no means, believe in everything in the Bible, nor do I follow it dogmatically.

Like I said before, religion, is a personal choice. I don't fault any man or woman for their beliefs system if it makes them a better person. My problem with threads like this is that it becomes a justification as to why I believe what I do. Why should I have to justify my beliefs? Should be of no consequence to you or others. And yes, I do understand that religion, from its inception, has been the reason for more bloodshed than any other reason. Please don't insult my intelligence as I have not insulted yours or asked you to justify your beliefs. It's a personal choice and should not be bemoaned, unless I have done something to harm you personally.

agree with the last paragraph completely.

my question is: was it religion or government the cause for the most blood shed in history?

[9za4ck4]

agree with the last paragraph completely.

my question is: was it religion or government the cause for the most blood shed in history?

im going to venture out and say religion.

[Twist]

being told exactly what to do to be happy is the next best thing to actually being happy

[BJJ]

Because of the fact that I consider myself well versed in many religious beliefs and I also realize that all three of the dominant religions of today derive from the same place. And I also know that they are simply retellings of stories from other ancient religions (namely ancient egyptian, mesopatanian, etc.).

With that said, I don't subscribe to every moral belief and the Bible or any other holy book. I just apply what I feel, personally, works for me. I chose Christianity because it most closely falls along the same lines of my thinking. But I, by no means, believe in everything in the Bible, nor do I follow it dogmatically.

Like I said before, religion, is a personal choice. I don't fault any man or woman for their beliefs system if it makes them a better person. My problem with threads like this is that it becomes a justification as to why I believe what I do. Why should I have to justify my beliefs? Should be of no consequence to you or others. And yes, I do understand that religion, from its inception, has been the reason for more bloodshed than any other reason. Please don't insult my intelligence as I have not insulted yours or asked you to justify your beliefs. It's a personal choice and should not be bemoaned, unless I have done something to harm you personally.

Neither I do, what I fault is ignorance...
...but it is does not seem this to be the case.

[fattymcbutterpants]

You know not too much really scares me that bad, but when I lay in bed at night if im by myself I absolutely am scared to death about what happens after you die. I believe in God or I want to so so bad its unreal. I pray alot while im laying in bed because it gives me a little reassurance on things but still idk when I think about what happens after death I get this empty hole feeling and i want the person i love most in my life right beside me not because I dont believe but just because I simply cannot fathom the fact once I am dead that it will be over. Everything is gone, this is why I want to believe in God so bad and I think I do. Sometimes I think of heaven as basically like after you die your stuck in a good dream forever or in a bad dream forever. Just a way of looking at it...but I honestly dont like that either because dreams always seem to end.

I wish someone could smack God into me I need some help. I know I am rambling but this stuff gets me so scared and I am not afraid to admit it. Its not that I am afraid of actual death, its the fact I am afraid of what happens after. If anyone wants to PM me on all this lol feel free...I feel like I am gonna have a long night of thinking ahead of me

[Ernst]

Who gave Fatty those drvgs?

[MACHINE5150]

I think that there is a higher power out there but he is nothing like the one's in the three holy books and he probably doesn't care if you pray to him or not as long as you are a good person.. I believe in karma and reincarnation as well.

[D3m3nt3d]

Yes.

[Ernst]

Because of the fact that I consider myself well versed in many religious beliefs and I also realize that all three of the dominant religions of today derive from the same place. And I also know that they are simply retellings of stories from other ancient religions (namely ancient egyptian, mesopatanian, etc.).

With that said, I don't subscribe to every moral belief and the Bible or any other holy book. I just apply what I feel, personally, works for me. I chose Christianity because it most closely falls along the same lines of my thinking. But I, by no means, believe in everything in the Bible, nor do I follow it dogmatically.

Like I said before, religion, is a personal choice. I don't fault any man or woman for their beliefs system if it makes them a better person. My problem with threads like this is that it becomes a justification as to why I believe what I do. Why should I have to justify my beliefs? Should be of no consequence to you or others. And yes, I do understand that religion, from its inception, has been the reason for more bloodshed than any other reason. Please don't insult my intelligence as I have not insulted yours or asked you to justify your beliefs. It's a personal choice and should not be bemoaned, unless I have done something to harm you personally.

A very good post. I really had hoped that people could just share their thoughts honestly without reproach, and it might give each of us a deeper insight into the hearts and minds of others. I think a lot of people held back because they did not feel like defending their feelings or explaining themselves.

I would point out that many religion-driven things do affect each of us personally though. I think that's why this thread may have morphed (or devolved) into what it did. People feel they have a personal interest in what others believe. After all, whatever it is that each of us believes, it influences how we vote, how we perceive others, how we act towards others, and so many other things.

[ecsaaron]

Fairytails by a bunch of guys wearing dresses.War=my gods better than yours

[fattymcbutterpants]

Who gave Fatty those drvgs?

Haha I just read my post and i think i must have been high i was doing some serious rambling lol