Torem

[Razor]

Anyone heard it lowers LDL and raises HDL. If so I am going to use this from now on instead of nova. Cause my LDL is always high and HDL is always low.

[Sgt. Hartman]

For PCT? Take them both.

[Razor]

What about taking it not for PCT? Bad idea?

[Sgt. Hartman]

Why else would you take a serm unless it's for gyno or pct? If its for gyno then tamox is much better IMO.

I wouldn't run a serm on cycle just to improve a temporarily screwed up lipid profile.

[Razor]

Nah I would never run it on cycle. Just found it interesting that it helped with lipid's.
I wonder how much it would improve my lipid profile on a 4 week pct with nova

[alexISthrowed]

Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure tamox does this as well.

[Razor]

Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure tamox does this as well.

OK good to know, thanks

[lovbyts]

Dark chocolate helps with cholesterol.
DONT take cholesterol meds such as Lipitor that has statins. It has been proven to deteriorate muscle and recent studies show it also affects tendons. I believe I'm living proof of the latter.

[Sgt. Hartman]

IMO, anyone who's worried about their cholesterol should read The Great Cholesterol Con by Malcolm Kendrick before taking any type of statins.

[Razor]

Never going to take statins, but every time I get a lipid profile HDL is always low, not matter what I do

[alexISthrowed]

IMO, anyone who's worried about their cholesterol should read The Great Cholesterol Con by Malcolm Kendrick before taking any type of statins.

I remember reading something about how some tribe in africa eats lb's of butter and red meat daily and have some of the healthiest cholesterol levels on earth. Eskimo's too, eating all that blubber.

[Razor]

I remember reading something about how some tribe in africa eats lb's of butter and red meat daily and have some of the healthiest cholesterol levels on earth. Eskimo's too, eating all that blubber.

Haha I would believe it, but how is that possible?

[Sgt. Hartman]

Not only that but the link between "bad" (in quotes to show my sarcasm) cholesterol levels and heart disease is overstated at best.

[Razor]

My HDL is always 32......what do you think?

[Sgt. Hartman]

Read this Razr. http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf

[Razor]

Read this Razr. http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf

Gawd damn thats a lot of reading but it looks important, ill read it right now, thanks

[lovbyts]

IMO, anyone who's worried about their cholesterol should read The Great Cholesterol Con by Malcolm Kendrick before taking any type of statins.

Agreed. I'm not sure why I was stupid enough to use it again after knowing better.
Ive said many times that Cholesterol meds are all about $$$

[Razor]

Yea ok, so sounds like the drug companies have pulled a vail over our eyes and get there way with numbers and then they us on statins....real cute.

[Hazard]

omega 3's..... theres also a script for Lovaza which is a prescription omega 3 pill. My father takes it and his HDL is ALWAYS on point.....

~Haz~

[Razor]

omega 3's..... theres also a script for Lovaza which is a prescription omega 3 pill. My father takes it and his HDL is ALWAYS on point.....

~Haz~

Is Lovazza better than an omega 3 you get at the supp store?

[lovbyts]

Looks like it's prescription only.
LOVAZA (omega-3-acid ethyl esters) , a lipid-regulating agent, is supplied as a liquid-filled gel capsule for oral administration. Each 1-gram capsule of LOVAZA (omega-3-acid ethyl esters) contains at least 900 mg of the ethyl esters of omega-3 fatty acids sourced from fish oils.

Of course they are pushing their own products but do a google for Lovaza omega 3 vs fish oil and you will find some comparisons.

[Razor]

I can get the prescription, thats not a problem, just want to know if its worth it.

[lovbyts]

google Lovaza omega 3 vs fish oil

[Razor]

Krill Oil seems to be more effective than both