Shy Girls...

[jasc]

Dude, if you were getting a serious BJ from her, she'd drown doing that. That position really is good. Only problem is it's more difficult to go fast

win win.. its a no strings attached bj

[Standby]

i only read your first post... with that said. do i dated a girl the same way, and after a little while the sex just plain stopped. 9 months no sex. best thing for you is to move on and find something new. seriously dude it might be hard but get rid of her youll thank me

[GirlyGymRat]

IMHO. if there are abuse issues, it isn't likely that she is gonna open up to you quickly. it could also be that she isn't experienced...(at least I would like to believe there are some 20 year olds out there). just cuz she has a twin, doesn't mean that they are the same about intimacy. the twins bf is a jerk telling you about his sex life with the sister. some women don't reach orgasm easily and therefore sex is not a big draw for these gals. gals have different attitudes about sex then men....yup this true. women can be so complicated, so i hope this is all worth it for ya. good luck!

[Iamdetermined]

I don't see a problem with her acting like that maybe she wants to be respected. After you show her that you respect her she will feel more comfortable around you..


I am 20 years old, I don't have a sex drive never had and I DO NOT give the time of day to guys who don't respect me and see me as a piece of booty.. maybe she has the same attitude as me ..

[GirlyGymRat]

ok...maybe the part about the twin's boy friend wasn't humble....LMBO!

[frank13]

give her some good old fashioned Cunnilingus make sure she gets off and don't ask for anything in return maybe then she will go out of her way to make sure your satisfied next time

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

IMHO. if there are abuse issues, it isn't likely that she is gonna open up to you quickly. it could also be that she isn't experienced...(at least I would like to believe there are some 20 year olds out there). just cuz she has a twin, doesn't mean that they are the same about intimacy. the twins bf is a jerk telling you about his sex life with the sister. some women don't reach orgasm easily and therefore sex is not a big draw for these gals. gals have different attitudes about sex then men....yup this true. women can be so complicated, so i hope this is all worth it for ya. good luck!

Being inexperienced wouldn't be a surprise to me, the thing that gets me is she dated some dude for like 4 years and that's her only other bf. I don't know what kind of sexual relationship they had going but her being inexperienced or not exactly being 100% confident in what she is doing is a good point.

Lol I was the one that asked the twins BF because i wanted to see if he was in the same boat and we pretty much were. He is a little more serious though with the twin then me and this girl have going.

I don't see a problem with her acting like that maybe she wants to be respected. After you show her that you respect her she will feel more comfortable around you..


I am 20 years old, I don't have a sex drive never had and I DO NOT give the time of day to guys who don't respect me and see me as a piece of booty.. maybe she has the same attitude as me ..

We have nothing but respect for each other and i'm always showing her respect. Like i stated above in girlgy comment i think she might need somebody that will push her to do things maybe, that's like the only thing i havn't tried.

At one point I asked her to "get on top" and she responded with "*sigghhhh* i was like, "whats wrong" she's all, "I just don't know how." and then she was unwilling to try, i think she was embarrassed?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

give her some good old fashioned Cunnilingus make sure she gets off and don't ask for anything in return maybe then she will go out of her way to make sure your satisfied next time

I've tried, she wants to stop after like 5mins. I stated before that when we were talking about sex she said she HATES doing it for a long time lol.

[frank13]

what? this sound crazy maybe try a different technique look some up maybe. normally the longer the better maybe shes nuts when she puts her hand down there to get you to stop grab her hand and put it on the back of your head to let her know your ok to keep going try it see what happens

[Standby]

i gave you your answer. she doesnt want sex as much as you do. you two do not go together. accept it

[frank13]

goonies never say die dont give up

[Iamdetermined]

We have nothing but respect for each other and i'm always showing her respect. Like i stated above in girlgy comment i think she might need somebody that will push her to do things maybe, that's like the only thing i havn't tried.

At one point I asked her to "get on top" and she responded with "*sigghhhh* i was like, "whats wrong" she's all, "I just don't know how." and then she was unwilling to try, i think she was embarrassed?

she probably does feel embarrassed so dont let it get to you, help her get out of her comfort zone by taking things slowly .. if she didn't like you she wouldn't even spend time with you so

[frank13]

suck her toes shy girls love that hahaha

[Times Roman]

she probably does feel embarrassed so dont let it get to you, help her get out of her comfort zone by taking things slowly .. if she didn't like you she wouldn't even spend time with you so

and sometimes it can take along time for you to get her to where you want her to go. if you push, eventually she will push back. better to be gentle and slow with your approach. and talking about it in a positive way outside the bedroom can be a postive thing.

but..... there is this to consider. not every gal will end up where you want her to be. after a few years, frustration can build up, and poison a relationship. at some point, you will have to assess the relationship and make a decision. Ultimately, you cannot change people. If they are truly not interested in sex, or have a very low libido for no apparent reason, then it sounds like you have a basic compatibility issue. But don't be hasty in your decisioning. give it some time, be patient, and be gentle.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

i gave you your answer. she doesnt want sex as much as you do. you two do not go together. accept it

That is NOT the answer lol, or at least not the one i want to hear haha. I think she wants it, she just needs to learn...

goonies never say die dont give up

I won't, I can't.... haha

she probably does feel embarrassed so dont let it get to you, help her get out of her comfort zone by taking things slowly .. if she didn't like you she wouldn't even spend time with you so

It's not really effecting me, I mean we all start someplace i just want her to not feel embarrassed over something like that you know OR if she is embarrassed i'm ok with it lol. It's almost like she's hesitate about doing things because she doesn't want to do anything wrong or doesn't want me to think she doesn't know what she's doing...if that makes sense?

Yea you're right, i've pretty much weeded out the idea of her not all that into me because she's always wanting to hang out with me and when the possibility of taking time away from each other arises she doesn't want to do that.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

suck her toes shy girls love that hahaha

I tried, she just laughed.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

and sometimes it can take along time for you to get her to where you want her to go. if you push, eventually she will push back. better to be gentle and slow with your approach. and talking about it in a positive way outside the bedroom can be a postive thing.

but..... there is this to consider. not every gal will end up where you want her to be. after a few years, frustration can build up, and poison a relationship. at some point, you will have to assess the relationship and make a decision. Ultimately, you cannot change people. If they are truly not interested in sex, or have a very low libido for no apparent reason, then it sounds like you have a basic compatibility issue. But don't be hasty in your decisioning. give it some time, be patient, and be gentle.

Yea man that's kind of the way it's been for a while...patient...slow...gentle lol.

Another thing, she has no problem talking about it, she's very open and doesn't seem shy or embarrassed when we discuss the topic. I've dated girls in the past who get pissed when i bring up sex, like they're not good enough or something lol they get all defensive.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I'm actually learning new ideas from this thread haha.

[gixxerboy1]

Make it seem like you are trying something new to you too. That way she may be more comfortable that she is not being compared to a past girl or experience.

[Standby]

my answer might not be the one you want or want to hear but it comes from a relationship very very similar to yours and i tried for a year. but hey since everyone else says it... dont give up. keep trying champ. at the end of the night when your using your own tears as lubrication jacking off your still a winner, you still get that cumshot even if it is into a tissue

[SexySweetheart]

what? this sound crazy maybe try a different technique look some up maybe. normally the longer the better maybe shes nuts when she puts her hand down there to get you to stop grab her hand and put it on the back of your head to let her know your ok to keep going try it see what happens

the IN on girl talk just cuz I feel like sharing
*going "down town" is usually NOT liked by chix or at least usually not preferred over pen... sex is preferred.
*most guys svx at it and it puts pressure on us to pretend he’s doing a good job cuz guys egos can be frail VERY FRAIL *we don’t wanna hurt the feelings of a guy we love and we are tired of giving direction to every new guy we meet that thinks he’s boss at it )
*even if he knows what he is doing, it can take forever, and then it gets boring or frustrating or our legs start to hurt from whatever position we have been holding forever
* a pen orgasm is different and usually better, so even if cunnings was good, if we show we liked it you may do it more and that’s usually not preferred
*putting her hand on your head after shes already tryin to block you ~ bad idea. it will agritavate/embarrase her AND than make her feel obligated = not best mix to result in orgasum
*also guys can be harsh. They judge the color/size/shape of lips...the taste/and smell...and every chix is different / tastes and smells change throughout the day (diet effects it) our lips are like the 1 thing we have zero control over and are still self-conscience about at times~ that’s all a lot to worry about when your trying to get off lol

Of course not every girl will fall into this category with every guy BUT I guarantee every girl has fallen into this with at LEAST 1 guy they have been with

[gixxerboy1]

my answer might not be the one you want or want to hear but it comes from a relationship very very similar to yours and i tried for a year. but hey since everyone else says it... dont give up. keep trying champ. at the end of the night when your using your own tears as lubrication jacking off your still a winner, you still get that cumshot even if it is into a tissue

lmao.

Maybe she is a lesbian?

[Standby]

lmao.

Maybe she is a lesbian?

i like your thinking... get the twin involved!

[gixxerboy1]

i like your thinking... get the twin involved!

she would have to feel more comfortable with her sister.

[Standby]

she would have to feel more comfortable with her sister.

i think we are on to something here. who could she possibly be more comfortable with other then her twin sister. they can probably read each others minds. this is the key to solving this riddle.

ask this sister and if her face starts getting that WTF you disgusting perv look to it slowly start pulling out 20 dollar bills until her face goes back to normal

[frank13]

the IN on girl talk just cuz I feel like sharing
*going "down town" is usually NOT liked by chix or at least usually not preferred over pen... sex is preferred.
*most guys svx at it and it puts pressure on us to pretend he’s doing a good job cuz guys egos can be frail VERY FRAIL *we don’t wanna hurt the feelings of a guy we love and we are tired of giving direction to every new guy we meet that thinks he’s boss at it )
*even if he knows what he is doing, it can take forever, and then it gets boring or frustrating or our legs start to hurt from whatever position we have been holding forever
* a pen orgasm is different and usually better, so even if cunnings was good, if we show we liked it you may do it more and that’s usually not preferred
*putting her hand on your head after shes already tryin to block you ~ bad idea. it will agritavate/embarrase her AND than make her feel obligated = not best mix to result in orgasum
*also guys can be harsh. They judge the color/size/shape of lips...the taste/and smell...and every chix is different / tastes and smells change throughout the day (diet effects it) our lips are like the 1 thing we have zero control over and are still self-conscience about at times~ that’s all a lot to worry about when your trying to get off lol

Of course not every girl will fall into this category with every guy BUT I guarantee every girl has fallen into this with at LEAST 1 guy they have been with

just trying to give some ideas my last girl would beg me for it i had to tell her no half the time i would think most guys could tell if there doing it right but maybe not and it seems alot of girls are shy about cumming in your face thats why they like to stop u before u get that fare im just saying let her know your ok with it

[gixxerboy1]

Tequila and $20's will solve a lot of issues

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

my answer might not be the one you want or want to hear but it comes from a relationship very very similar to yours and i tried for a year. but hey since everyone else says it... dont give up. keep trying champ. at the end of the night when your using your own tears as lubrication jacking off your still a winner, you still get that cumshot even if it is into a tissue

Hahahah dude i laughed my ass off when i read this, funniest image. Reminds me of that chappele episode where the method man and his prison friend take that nerds chick. Then when they look at him in night vision he's crying and tuggin himself in the corner while the prison guy is over his chick. Damn im gonna try and find it.

the IN on girl talk just cuz I feel like sharing
*going "down town" is usually NOT liked by chix or at least usually not preferred over pen... sex is preferred.
*most guys svx at it and it puts pressure on us to pretend he’s doing a good job cuz guys egos can be frail VERY FRAIL *we don’t wanna hurt the feelings of a guy we love and we are tired of giving direction to every new guy we meet that thinks he’s boss at it )
*even if he knows what he is doing, it can take forever, and then it gets boring or frustrating or our legs start to hurt from whatever position we have been holding forever
* a pen orgasm is different and usually better, so even if cunnings was good, if we show we liked it you may do it more and that’s usually not preferred
*putting her hand on your head after shes already tryin to block you ~ bad idea. it will agritavate/embarrase her AND than make her feel obligated = not best mix to result in orgasum
*also guys can be harsh. They judge the color/size/shape of lips...the taste/and smell...and every chix is different / tastes and smells change throughout the day (diet effects it) our lips are like the 1 thing we have zero control over and are still self-conscience about at times~ that’s all a lot to worry about when your trying to get off lol

Of course not every girl will fall into this category with every guy BUT I guarantee every girl has fallen into this with at LEAST 1 guy they have been with

Lol we talked about this to. She was like "I don't really like it, it doesn't really do anything, I would rather just have sex and get it over with." haha

i like your thinking... get the twin involved!

Ohhh great idea... "Well baby maybe you'll feel more comfortable with your sister involved." "You think?" "Yea of course, you guys are family, why wouldn't it be comfortable."

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

just trying to give some ideas my last girl would beg me for it i had to tell her no half the time i would think most guys could tell if there doing it right but maybe not and it seems alot of girls are shy about cumming in your face thats why they like to stop u before u get that fare im just saying let her know your ok with it

I agree with you on this, every other chick i've been with is quick to let me know if i'm doing something correct or not. If she doesn't like it she'll let me know.

With this chick though, like i went down and she let me go for a while, then after she told me she didn't like it, i was like why did you let me do it then, she just said "I dono?"

[frank13]

Sexy4mySweetheart maybe i should stop by sometime and help u out

[doxmaster]

op buy a hooker

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

op buy a hooker

Ide rather run my nutsack against a cheese grader.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

.. oops double post.

[JD250]

Since you're too hard headed to accept the fact that your cock is way too small for her........maybe you should try my secret weapon, grab her boobies and dry hump her, it works especially well in public settings or when eating supper at her parents house......if that doesn't make her horny....nothing will. Good luck tiny.

[lovbyts]

Yea, her last bf was a major d-bag, i was just trying to figure out more before i asked her about her past, seems like that's what needs to be done though.

EVERY girls past boyfriend was a dirt-bag but SHE choose him. If it has anything to do with her past it's a LOT further back than that. If it's not some traumatic event in her past/childhood then she just has not had GOOD sex yet. Hone in your oral skills. Forget the ganging if you really want to please her and have her loosen up.

My girl and a lot in my past had never experienced an orgasm before but once they do there is no going back. lol Mine had never done anything except missionary and NEVER experienced oral sex. hahahaha She was like what are you doing and of course started out with just giggles. After a while the giggles subsided and got more serious. They are always afraid they are going to pee the first few times also, loose control. lol Then the fun comes in of multiple Os. Only problem is not you have to keep it up all the time. ....

Agree with the Tequila idea, Get some GOOD tequila (Patron) and some limes and invite the twin over.

[Razor]

Since you're too hard headed to accept the fact that your cock is way too small for her........maybe you should try my secret weapon, grab her boobies and dry hump her, it works especially well in public settings or when eating supper at her parents house......if that doesn't make her horny....nothing will. Good luck tiny.

Jd I been watching you mad dog this guy for five pages...lmfao!!!!!!

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Since you're too hard headed to accept the fact that your cock is way too small for her........maybe you should try my secret weapon, grab her boobies and dry hump her, it works especially well in public settings or when eating supper at her parents house......if that doesn't make her horny....nothing will. Good luck tiny.

Hahahaha i'll give it a whirl. Maybe she will tug on my "tiny" cock to get me to stop, kinda like how a grandma tugs on her grandsons ear when he's acting up.

[SexySweetheart]

Sexy4mySweetheart maybe i should stop by sometime and help u out

baaaahahahahaa nice one! pretty sure tiger would not approve, pretty sure...
not applicable in my situation though lmao (anymore anyway)
was just sharing conversations from gf over the years

sometimes us silly gals slide back into teenage zone ~where we say what the boys wanna hear (in bed and out) so that they don’t think/talk badly of us....i have the blessing of being married. and never really gave a fvck what most thought. so I just blab whatever pops in my twisted uncensored head and spill chick knowledge i encounter,
Hay maybe it will help some gal some place from having to put on a show for a guy that she will later complain to her girls about lol

[songdog]

Yes girls do talk big time they are the worst.Beacuse if a guy has a small one and he sleeps with one woman in that town by 10 the next morning its the talk at the diner.I felt so sorry for those guys.

[lovbyts]

Yes girls do talk big time they are the worst.Beacuse if a guy has a small one and he sleeps with one woman in that town by 10 the next morning its the talk at the diner.I felt so sorry for those guys.

Personal experience? You know I couldnt resist....
I thought they say size doesn't matter? lol

Yes I have heard from many female friends that women are worse than men on how they talk most of the time. I love the fact my woman hasn't learned the art of insulting. You know that typically women will insult a guy during an argument/fight/breakup saying he has a little dick or he is not good in bed. A few of our arguments/fights mine has accused me being with someone else and says things like have fun fvcking her with your big d*ck or I hope she likes your big d*ck or something like that. All I can do is try not to laugh and walk away. Luckily she does not have much experience to compare me to.