Who are you voting for this November?

[Igifuno]

I hope that is said with sarcasm. You are right though, that is exactly what he is doing buying votes and giving people welfare or LOW income a little more but all it is doing in the long run is keeping the poor poor and making more of the middle class poor, working poor. It is doing nothing to help the economy, create jobs or help people in any real sense of the word. It's the same idea of Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. The problem is to many people are ok with the fish today only and cant see the big picture or future.

Exactly. Another socialist tactic.

[SEOINAGE]

I hope that is said with sarcasm. You are right though, that is exactly what he is doing buying votes and giving people welfare or LOW income a little more but all it is doing in the long run is keeping the poor poor and making more of the middle class poor, working poor. It is doing nothing to help the economy, create jobs or help people in any real sense of the word. It's the same idea of Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. The problem is to many people are ok with the fish today only and cant see the big picture or future.

Sad but true, this has had a huge impact on our society. We all are practically slaves because of it. But but obama promises to teach people to fish, have you heard his add campaigns to increase people attending college, well imo its just to further force us into being slaves, and drive the middle class down further.

[lovbyts]

Sad but true, this has had a huge impact on our society. We all are practically slaves because of it. But but obama promises to teach people to fish, have you heard his add campaigns to increase people attending college, well imo its just to further force us into being slaves, and drive the middle class down further.

Yes but I dont think everyone should go to college. #1 if you cant afford to go to college you should work for a few years first and save up instead of the government providing low interest loans giving the schools an excuse to raise prices because they know kids will just borrow to get in and it has destroyed a lot more kids/careers than it ever helped. There are kids borrowing/owing over 100K getting a degree in social services that only pay 30k a year. How they hell will they pay that back? They should NOT allow loans for things like that but they do. It's no different than the housing bubble. Everyone qualified for a home loan FAR beyond their means.

Everything the government sticks their nose in supposedly to help people in the way of social services, loans, bail outs has backfired and hurt society or at least only promoted more laziness and poverty. All they have done is make it easier for people to remain poor, less incentive to strive for personal gains. Why work for $20 hr when you can stay home and get $15 hr?

[bikeral]

After carefully reading all the posts here and studying all candidates I think DanB is the obvious choice.

[SEOINAGE]

Yes but I dont think everyone should go to college. #1 if you cant afford to go to college you should work for a few years first and save up instead of the government providing low interest loans giving the schools an excuse to raise prices because they know kids will just borrow to get in and it has destroyed a lot more kids/careers than it ever helped. There are kids borrowing/owing over 100K getting a degree in social services that only pay 30k a year. How they hell will they pay that back? They should NOT allow loans for things like that but they do. It's no different than the housing bubble. Everyone qualified for a home loan FAR beyond their means.

Everything the government sticks their nose in supposedly to help people in the way of social services, loans, bail outs has backfired and hurt society or at least only promoted more laziness and poverty. All they have done is make it easier for people to remain poor, less incentive to strive for personal gains. Why work for $20 hr when you can stay home and get $15 hr?

Exactly.

[spywizard]

Yes but I dont think everyone should go to college. #1 if you cant afford to go to college you should work for a few years first and save up instead of the government providing low interest loans giving the schools an excuse to raise prices because they know kids will just borrow to get in and it has destroyed a lot more kids/careers than it ever helped. There are kids borrowing/owing over 100K getting a degree in social services that only pay 30k a year. How they hell will they pay that back? They should NOT allow loans for things like that but they do. It's no different than the housing bubble. Everyone qualified for a home loan FAR beyond their means.

Everything the government sticks their nose in supposedly to help people in the way of social services, loans, bail outs has backfired and hurt society or at least only promoted more laziness and poverty. All they have done is make it easier for people to remain poor, less incentive to strive for personal gains. Why work for $20 hr when you can stay home and get $15 hr?

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"The world needs ditch diggers too ya know"...
~Caddie Shack

I agree with you, but lets look at the other side, not too long ago, only the rich went to college (in my lifetime) and the poor were left with no access to that education and thus no path to the "american Dream"

Lets talk about the american dream...

To have the opportunity options to if effort is applied to do and achieve great things.. sounds simple doesn't it??

But what happens?? life, babies and so forth.. choices..

I also don't believe in keeping the infirm/weak alive, both young and old.. but that's along the same lines as "everyone should not go to college" thought process.

[SEOINAGE]

Well honestly college means very little anymore, the pay isn't that much better than a lot of labor intensive positions, and in some cases there are college required careers that pay less. Unless you get a master's degree or higher. Like what has been said it is making hte middle class poorer, and giving others the illusion of achieving the american dream.

I have no problem with education in general, but soon instead of people being adults at 18 and after high school, they won't be adults and out of "college" till 22-23. Besides you can learn a lot more with self study and more specific classes. Sure you get a general education, but we are wasting productivity imo.

[RaginCajun]

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"The world needs ditch diggers too ya know"...
~Caddie Shack
I agree with you, but lets look at the other side, not too long ago, only the rich went to college (in my lifetime) and the poor were left with no access to that education and thus no path to the "american Dream"

Lets talk about the american dream...

To have the opportunity options to if effort is applied to do and achieve great things.. sounds simple doesn't it??

But what happens?? life, babies and so forth.. choices..

I also don't believe in keeping the infirm/weak alive, both young and old.. but that's along the same lines as "everyone should not go to college" thought process.

love that movie!

[Razor]

After carefully reading all the posts here and studying all candidates I think DanB is the obvious choice.

Yippy

[Igifuno]

I have been a registered Republican since I was 18, but changed to Independent 5 years ago. I don't want anyone to think I'm missing the points on both sides, but IMO the far left, while they have some good talking points, is closed-minded, radical and borderline un-American. I read an article recently where leaders of this party called our country indistinguishable from brutal dictatorships! This country was built from people who worked hard, made good decisions and reaped the benefits of their labor. The hard workers grew rich, the lazy became poor. The democrats are now pushing this socialistic way of life that will only weaken us as a country and, at the end of the day, the hard workers will give less effort because the lazy are reaping some of their benefits. Everyone will be mediocre and that is unacceptable.

in the same article, I read where they accused the Republicans of creating the recession by deregulating the banking industry. How the hell can they accuse the conservatives of intentionally "creating a severe recession" by deregulating the banking industry" when it was President Clinton who signed that legislation into law? What the hell is that crap?

And sure, let's make a big deal out of water boarding some terrorists who came onto our soil and killed thousands of our people. We haven't had another successful attack yet, and I'd bet we got some pretty good intel with those tactics. This president can't even seem to get his army and secret service personnel to behave properly so this is a huge problem. So no, I'm not voting for Obama. Would definitely vote for DanB first.

Here's a pretty good clip that puts this whole taxation subject into perspective for the long term... Btw, Arnold has a cameo in this clip lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8O7V-WxWQ&sns=em

[gixxerboy1]

I don't think Gixxer is 35.

10 more days i will be

[spywizard]

I'm voting for Obama because he knows what's best for me, I lack the critical thinking and the "inside" information that would allow me to know what he knows and thus what he does is always best for me. The Unions are hiring so I don't have to worry about that, and if those &*^*(&(^$( republicans stop me from getting a job Barry says i can come stay with him

The Government has finally made it so I am taken care of from cradle to grave... and they know better than i do if i'm suppose to have that medical treatment, after all what good will I be after 55 yrs old anyway..

[gixxerboy1]

Nothing personal but that is the most overused, tired, parroted and untrue statement in the last 4 years........Bush was a gawdamned idiot, don't get me wrong but unless you are totally ignorant of what's been going on or live in a cave it's undeniable that Bush may have done some things wrong but obama has taken that stupidity to a level that is so severe that one has to wonder if he has a socialist agenda for reorganizing our society that involves a financial and social collapse.....you tell me , I'm just looking at facts and numbers.

i dont think Bush is responsible for everything. But his tax cuts and the medicare program are killing the debt.
I honestly dont think Obama is a socialist. Why do think he is a socialist?

[spywizard]

Why do think he is a socialist?

"It's time to spread it around" socialist

"They can ride in the back of the bus" republicans in congress 1-2 yrs in office

Executive orders signed that dictate the will of the executive branch vs the will of the people (congress)

Yep, socialist..

[bikeral]

Yippy

Razr I think its time for a DanB for president thread.

[Rwy]

i dont think Bush is responsible for everything. But his tax cuts and the medicare program are killing the debt.
I honestly dont think Obama is a socialist. Why do think he is a socialist?

He isn't even close to a socialist. He is a centralist if anything. Did he come into office with a socialist agenda? Yes, but it has not panned out that way

[Honkey_Kong]

10 more days i will be

Alright, here is the big question to see if you're Presidential material.... If you're elected, will you force the first lady to pose in nudie magazines?

[jasc]

Alright, here is the big question to see if you're Presidential material.... If you're elected, will you force the first lady to pose in nudie magazines?

Good question...

I would also like to see:
1) whores in the white house
2) all ".gov" websites forward you to steroid .com
3) steroids be made legal for anyone 25+
4) impose a fat tax
5) invite pro bodybuilders to the white house instead of rappers n basketball players
6) impose a tax on ppl who drive hybrids
the list goes on, but you catch my drift.

[Honkey_Kong]

Good question...

I would also like to see:
1) whores in the white house
2) all ".gov" websites forward you to steroid .com
3) steroids be made legal for anyone 25+
4) impose a fat tax
5) invite pro bodybuilders to the white house instead of rappers n basketball players
6) impose a tax on ppl who drive hybrids
the list goes on, but you catch my drift.

I agree on all that except your first demand. Why do we want the whores going to the White House? I don't live there.

And I don't care about your 5th demand either, but I don't think I'd notice if they were there or not. Personally, I don't think "musicians" or athletes should be getting invites to the white house anyways. President is there to get the job done. Not to entertain himself.

[Razor]

Razr I think its time for a DanB for president thread.

Agred but hes drunk most of the time so we need a vp as well like george bush and Dick Cheney

[Coolhand5599]

i would not vote for mitt romney even if i was paid to

To bad you are co closed minded and misinformed. Or just ignorent.

[Coolhand5599]

i dont think Bush is responsible for everything. But his tax cuts and the medicare program are killing the debt.
I honestly dont think Obama is a socialist. Why do think he is a socialist?

Tax cuts are not killing anything. Intitlement spending foreign aid and over half the American people not paying anything is killing us.

[GirlyGymRat]

Dan for president

Lets make Gixxer president then

Im running for president and heres my agenda

Interesting...How exactly can we write in these candidates

[DanB]

Agred but hes drunk most of the time so we need a vp as well like george bush and Dick Cheney

hey im doing well been sober a few days now haha

first on adgenda is lower tax on alcohol and legalise aas and hgh but i shall have to tax the suppliers, they can pay me in product

[frank13]

No man its a free country we all have the right to vote for whoever we want, some see only the bad in Obama, I see some of his short comings but am glad hes pulling the US out of the middle east. No one is perfect he didn't inherit a rose garden. People blame him for jobs, but its not the presidents job to create jobs, its up to Capitalism to determine that fate. He is the commander in chief. He got Osama under his watch, killed some pirates, sent a virus to Iran to shut down the nuclear program and pulling the troops outa the middle east, so hes good in my book.

well said

[Coolhand5599]

No man its a free country we all have the right to vote for whoever we want, some see only the bad in Obama, I see some of his short comings but am glad hes pulling the US out of the middle east. No one is perfect he didn't inherit a rose garden. People blame him for jobs, but its not the presidents job to create jobs, its up to Capitalism to determine that fate. He is the commander in chief. He got Osama under his watch, killed some pirates, sent a virus to Iran to shut down the nuclear program and pulling the troops outa the middle east, so hes good in my book.

Agree the government should not creat jobs. But that is what he is trying to do. Get out of the way and make it easier for people like me to do that. The government should also stay out of insurance, health care, babysitting, and every other private sector. Not pick winners and losers not bail out any company. When a government can not put together a balanced budget then you have no right being in any business including mine.

As far as Osama goes we knew where we was in fall 2006 and had him the entire time. We could not kill him before we did because Americans thought this was a one man war. Bush did not kill him for the greater good of this country. He is a very selfless man and did not care about his legacy.

[wmaousley]

I am a republican but my vote is for Obama, If Romney is president the Mormons will try to have prohibition on Alcohol, Caffeine and Bikinis...............................

[Razor]

I am a republican but my vote is for Obama, If Romney is president the Mormons will try to have prohibition on Alcohol, Caffeine and Bikinis...............................

Romney freaks me out

[Ernst]

I'll be voting for Obama, and I'll be throwing up a little in my mouth while I do it. Lesser of two evils.

Romney sold his soul and changed his stances on multiple issues to cater the super creepy people who inhabit the insane, über-religious, and intolerant wing of the Republican party just to get nominated. After that show there's no way I'll vote for him. I'm a conservative, not an idiot... I find myself wondering when the two became the same. Would anyone else like to see a real Republican in office?

[ironbeck]

I'm gonna be sick.

[ironbeck]

you really believe that voting for the hand fed opponents you are given that anything will change for the better for the average joe? We are all brainwashed peons, some do better than others, but ........never mind, I love the USA!

[Coolhand5599]

I am a republican but my vote is for Obama, If Romney is president the Mormons will try to have prohibition on Alcohol, Caffeine and Bikinis...............................

That is crazy, he is a capitalist it will not even try to take away any thriving industry. It is not even within his power. And even if he would want to he would not get the support.

[Honkey_Kong]

That is crazy, he is a capitalist it will not even try to take away any thriving industry. It is not even within his power. And even if he would want to he would not get the support.

Obummer has given us 4 years of lies. Romney would give us 4 years of garbage. Really, this country isn't free and doesn't belong to the common man. I wish I had billions so I could afford the lobbyists needed to get what I want out of government.

[spywizard]

Tax cuts are not killing anything. Intitlement spending foreign aid and over half the American people not paying anything is killing us.

ding ding ding... we have a winner...

[GirlyGymRat]

That is crazy, he is a capitalist it will not even try to take away any thriving industry. It is not even within his power. And even if he would want to he would not get the support.

Maybe he would legalize steroids and someone state side can make supplements.....hmmmmmm

[Times Roman]

FUNNY story...

for years, i would fill in my name in the, well, fill in the blank section for the state controllers offfice. told my family, and now they too are doing it. my son told his buddies, and now some of them are doing it as well.

not sure if i can get elected with 12 votes......?

[GirlyGymRat]

r u pinning for more write in??? Shall I go with Times Roman?????

[Times Roman]

r u pinning for more write in??? Shall I go with Times Roman?????

you would make lucky 13, and that just might get me into office? and yes, don't write in "Times Roman".... don't know that bloke =)

[GirlyGymRat]

you would make lucky 13, and that just might get me into office? and yes, don't write in "Times Roman".... don't know that bloke =)

13 could tip you over the edge....Times Roman for pres!

[Times Roman]

13 could tip you over the edge....Times Roman for pres!

nawww... not president. too many speaches. controller. as in accounting. now on a federal level, wouldn't mind running the GAO