Chik Fil A - Man Gets Fired After Posting Drive Thru Video

[wmaousley]

I dont agree at all with the op. Why can the CEO of a major corporation be discriminate towards gay & lesbians but the government who says its illegal to be discriminate towards someones sexual preference cant say anything without being ridiculed. I support Bostons mayor 110%, and beieve Chik-fil-a should keep there religious views in there homes or church, not in the street.

[Metalject]

Good points metalject. Many years ago, I was surrounded by religious mindsets, and I was quite active in the church. I knew people that believed various parts of religion to help improve their lives, and I knew others who firmly believed everything the book said; start to finish! I personally got away from that many years ago, as it just didn't agree with my life.

If you believe strongly in something, as in a religion or philosophy, or as Spy has mentioned, have an opinion, then of course it's going to be the natural course to endorse that point of view with the means you have possible. Even gay and lesbian celebrities, athletes, and affluent individuals will financially support their cause (as they should). It's just when people use force, intimidation and other non consensual means to sway a person to comply to the structure of their beliefs, is when you find will find the system of democracy to be dysfunctional.

I don't know if you were implying this or not, so more or less simply stating it for the record...I don't believe Chick-Fil-A is using force or intimidation in any way.

[Metalject]

I dont agree at all with the op. Why can the CEO of a major corporation be discriminate towards gay & lesbians but the government who says its illegal to be discriminate towards someones sexual preference cant say anything without being ridiculed. I support Bostons mayor 110%, and beieve Chik-fil-a should keep there religious views in there homes or church, not in the street.

If what you're saying is the correct course of action, this would mean no one who owns or runs any business should ever be allowed to state an opinion on anything that doesn't have anything to do with their business. Let's say I own a widget factory, I manufacture and sell widgets. Does this mean I'm not allowed to share my opinion and beliefs on issues that have nothing to do with widgets? Does this mean I can only share my opinions and beliefs at home or in church?

As for the mayor of Boston, (Chicago and San Francisco as well) if the mayor has a right to ban any business on the basis of the business owner not sharing their opinions or beliefs, this would mean mayors from all over the country could deny permits for business to any one they like on that basis.

Freedom of speech is granted to all individuals, and this includes business owners. During the continental congress, many of the members wanted to deny liberty to a specific group of people on the basis of them holding to issues of morality many in the congress disagreed with. Ben Franklin would state this was a mistake. He would say that so as long as the said group's beliefs did not hinder the liberty of others, they should be free to hold to their beliefs with the same liberty as others. If they were not, in time others in government might say other beliefs were worthy of denied liberty.

As I see it, many who feel Dan Cathy shouldn't be allowed to state his beliefs and should not be free to exercise his right to stand by them are being hypocritical. They will only accept statements that support their beliefs.

[DSM4Life]

If what you're saying is the correct course of action, this would mean no one who owns or runs any business should ever be allowed to state an opinion on anything that doesn't have anything to do with their business. Let's say I own a widget factory, I manufacture and sell widgets. Does this mean I'm not allowed to share my opinion and beliefs on issues that have nothing to do with widgets? Does this mean I can only share my opinions and beliefs at home or in church?

As for the mayor of Boston, (Chicago and San Francisco as well) if the mayor has a right to ban any business on the basis of the business owner not sharing their opinions or beliefs, this would mean mayors from all over the country could deny permits for business to any one they like on that basis.

Freedom of speech is granted to all individuals, and this includes business owners. During the continental congress, many of the members wanted to deny liberty to a specific group of people on the basis of them holding to issues of morality many in the congress disagreed with. Ben Franklin would state this was a mistake. He would say that so as long as the said group's beliefs did not hinder the liberty of others, they should be free to hold to their beliefs with the same liberty as others. If they were not, in time others in government might say other beliefs were worthy of denied liberty.

As I see it, many who feel Dan Cathy shouldn't be allowed to state his beliefs and should not be free to exercise his right to stand by them are being hypocritical. They will only accept statements that support their beliefs.

Speaking from a business stand point why would you even have a view point? You sell chicken, so sell chicken! Why would you want to turn business away because of your personal view point? If I was a businessman i wouldn't have an public opinions on anything.

[Vettester]

I don't know if you were implying this or not, so more or less simply stating it for the record...I don't believe Chick-Fil-A is using force or intimidation in any way.

No, not at all. The second part of posts was just reminding that there are those groups who feel overly compelled with getting their message out, which they will resort to extreme measures to make their interests heard.Seen it with unions, seen it with the Black Panthers. People have the right to a peaceful democracy to make their choices.

[kelkel]

It’s just sad that sometimes people feel things are so unfair, that they feel the need to do something/ anything to try and make it rite... this guy is not happy that other Americans are not treated as equals, and he took action in his own way. He def. could have handled it better, without getting himself fired or badgering a middle person that for he knows may agree with his ideas... his end intention was too help and I give him props for that

I kinda think this guys only intention was to get his 5 minutes of Youtube fame and satisfy his own ego. Well, he accomplished it.

[Vettester]

I dont agree at all with the op. Why can the CEO of a major corporation be discriminate towards gay & lesbians but the government who says its illegal to be discriminate towards someones sexual preference cant say anything without being ridiculed. I support Bostons mayor 110%, and beieve Chik-fil-a should keep there religious views in there homes or church, not in the street.

In many cases, CEO and corporate executives are involved with sitting on the chairs for many events, and organizations that support a whole myriad of practices. In some of those cases, you find the business leaders has greater ambitions with looking to fulfill a position in Government, e.g., Donald Trump. Some of these guys are the strongest, most outspoken minds in our society. The media and scholars will be taking note of the things they say, and what they believe in.

What you are proposing here is simply Stalinism on our soil, and to remove our 1st Amendment from our constitution. The CEO of Chik Fil A doesn't discriminate against gay or lesbian cultures. If there's one shred of proof that his business does, then bring it forward. He, personally has the view about a traditional marriage between a man and a woman. That is his right!! Who are we to suppress his beliefs?

The most disturbing part is you're saying you support these mayors, who want to basically impose sanctions against the business for this guy's belief.

There are discrimination laws in place, and as far as we can the Chik Fil A organization is not breaking any of them. Their CEO feels convicted with his religious beliefs, and has the constitutional right to express his opinions. If you feel strongly against him, then don't eat there. However, supporting Government to use their power in these situations is completely out of line. So what happens when Ellen (Degeneres to clarify) is told she can not establish a business in a certain town because the city council decided her views are too offensive for that town? The table has now turned on this. This would be another area where Government empowered themselves where they shouldn't.

Let the people and private sector decide. Government has no place in this.

Also, I deal with a few businesses that have a cross on their stationary. What you're saying is keep that at home. Then it crosses over to the Christmas tree ... Well, a few don't like that either, so burn it down! Then we can't even say Merry Christmas because it just offends. Fine, let the Boston mayor tell us what we can and cannot have. Just be careful though, he might not like any forums that cater to the content of AAS. Plenty find it offensive ... Let the mayors shut us down!

[gixxerboy1]

If what you're saying is the correct course of action, this would mean no one who owns or runs any business should ever be allowed to state an opinion on anything that doesn't have anything to do with their business. Let's say I own a widget factory, I manufacture and sell widgets. Does this mean I'm not allowed to share my opinion and beliefs on issues that have nothing to do with widgets? Does this mean I can only share my opinions and beliefs at home or in church?

As for the mayor of Boston, (Chicago and San Francisco as well) if the mayor has a right to ban any business on the basis of the business owner not sharing their opinions or beliefs, this would mean mayors from all over the country could deny permits for business to any one they like on that basis.

Freedom of speech is granted to all individuals, and this includes business owners. During the continental congress, many of the members wanted to deny liberty to a specific group of people on the basis of them holding to issues of morality many in the congress disagreed with. Ben Franklin would state this was a mistake. He would say that so as long as the said group's beliefs did not hinder the liberty of others, they should be free to hold to their beliefs with the same liberty as others. If they were not, in time others in government might say other beliefs were worthy of denied liberty.

As I see it, many who feel Dan Cathy shouldn't be allowed to state his beliefs and should not be free to exercise his right to stand by them are being hypocritical. They will only accept statements that support their beliefs.

towns already do. I managed strip bars for years. kNow how many times townships tried to change zoning laws to get us closed down. Most cant be in such a distance from a church. Why? Its not like the church and the bar are opened at the same time? You have more religious people pushing to get us to close or not being able to open in their town. So if religious people can do it for businesses they don't like they can expect the same for businesses they do like.

[Times Roman]

Speaking from a business stand point why would you even have a view point? You sell chicken, so sell chicken! Why would you want to turn business away because of your personal view point? If I was a businessman i wouldn't have an public opinions on anything.

Some people are "crusaders" and are arrogant enough to feel the need to change your point of view. once they go into business, and have access to funds, they will use those funds to further their crusade. I've known a few crusaders in my times.

[Shol'va]

To me what is sad in all this mess is that here it is 2012 and we still haven't gotten over this gay issue. Everyone has been touched in one way or another by it. We all have a gay uncle or brother or dad or cousin or a lesbian sister, etc. If we could spend more time figuring out how to get us all back to work and get America strong again that should be the focus. I mean think about it only about 10 percent of the population is gay so how can that affect every one else? And really how many gays are actually going to get married? And as far as the keeping the sanctity of marriage for the straight folks only, well lets see now the divorce rate is hovering at 60% now. And one has only to turn to the likes of Jerry Springer and Maury Povich to see how marriage in America really is working out. With titles of Are you my baby's daddy? And my cheating husband or my cheating wife. And all the married folks getting paternity tests? So really can gays screw it up any worse by them allowed to be married? But I agree with DSM I don't need a marriage certificate. Call it anything else for us as long as we are allowed the same rights and privledges and we can call it a day. All this CEO has done is further polarize the nation on this subject, which is what he planned to do otherwise he would have kept quiet and done what he believed in anonymously. But then this is election year.

[Times Roman]

To me what is sad in all this mess is that here it is 2012 and we still haven't gotten over this gay issue. Everyone has been touched in one way or another by it. We all have a gay uncle or brother or dad or cousin or a lesbian sister, etc. If we could spend more time figuring out how to get us all back to work and get America strong again that should be the focus. I mean think about it only about 10 percent of the population is gay so how can that affect every one else? And really how many gays are actually going to get married? And as far as the keeping the sanctity of marriage for the straight folks only, well lets see now the divorce rate is hovering at 60% now. And one has only to turn to the likes of Jerry Springer and Maury Povich to see how marriage in America really is working out. With titles of Are you my baby's daddy? And my cheating husband or my cheating wife. And all the married folks getting paternity tests? So really can gays screw it up any worse by them allowed to be married? But I agree with DSM I don't need a marriage certificate. Call it anything else for us as long as we are allowed the same rights and privledges and we can call it a day. All this CEO has done is further polarize the nation on this subject, which is what he planned to do otherwise he would have kept quiet and done what he believed in anonymously. But then this is election year.

I don't even know where to start, Shol'va. first, i saw a bumper sticker awhile ago that i whole heartedly agree with. the sticker said...

"Organized Religion...
...the biggest SCAM ever!!!"

So to answer one of your questions....
....as long as the bible (notice lower case?) says it is a sin, then the sheople will ALWAYS be casting stones at the gay community. Sorry, but I sincerely believe this.

You know me by now, AND I'm a Libertarian, so what I'm about to say next won't come as a surprise....

in my opinion, if two consenting adults wish to join in a union (marriage, whatever...), then gender should not be taken into consideration, in the eyes of the law. If employer/legal benefits are accorded to an opposing gender pair, then it should apply equally to all pairs, and without bias.

I am really sick and tired of our government thinking it is smarter than the people it represents. We truly have one hell of an arrogant government. Don't believe me? Ask anyone that doesn't live in the USA and see what they say.

[Times Roman]

btw. I did say TWO consenting adults. Please don't get me started on the whole group marriage thing, or trans species thing.

Btw x2. I was raised by Archie Bunker, and I didn't arrive at my point of view overnight, but i have come along way based on where i started in my belief system.

[spywizard]

I dont agree at all with the op. Why can the CEO of a major corporation be discriminate towards gay & lesbians but the government who says its illegal to be discriminate towards someones sexual preference cant say anything without being ridiculed. I support Bostons mayor 110%, and beieve Chik-fil-a should keep there religious views in there homes or church, not in the street.

that's what Hitler said too... Muslims believe the same, not actually if you don't believe what they believe they are directed to kill you.. but there aren't many of them in the world so no worries..

[Vettester]

that's what Hitler said too... Muslims believe the same, not actually if you don't believe what they believe they are directed to kill you.. but there aren't many of them in the world so no worries..

Exactly!! ^^

[gixxerboy1]

Some people are "crusaders" and are arrogant enough to feel the need to change your point of view. once they go into business, and have access to funds, they will use those funds to further their crusade. I've known a few crusaders in my times.

where those from the actual crusades?

[Times Roman]

where those from the actual crusades?

Yep!

[Metalject]

Speaking from a business stand point why would you even have a view point? You sell chicken, so sell chicken! Why would you want to turn business away because of your personal view point? If I was a businessman i wouldn't have an public opinions on anything.

He wasn't speaking as a business man when he made those statements, he was speaking as a man sharing his own personal convictions. And any man that doesn't stand by his personal convictions and hides them on any basis, well, this not only makes those convictions worthless but it also degrades any respect that individual might hold. Any man who stands by his convictions, regardless of other opinions, this deserves admiration.

Further, I know I've already said this, but all business men, all men have opinions that have nothing to do with their business. I'm sure you have opinions on various things, some of which may be strong that have absolutely nothing to do with whatever it is you do for a living...Dan Cathy is no different.

[travaldavas_taz]

Whats chick-fil-a is doing! Is ****ed up also Its sad to see what society is becoming into! :/

[lovbyts]

It seems to me things are really getting out of hand with all this gay marriage, gay rights or religious stuff. No one is really able to have freedom of speech or their own beliefs. It seems in the near future we will all have to be gay or Bi Muslim at one point of our life or another or we will be deemed prejudice. Where does the madness end? There are extremest on both ends.

[Vettester]

Whats chick-fil-a is doing! Is ****ed up also Its sad to see what society is becoming into! :/

And what is Chik Fil A doing that is so wrong? Chik Fil A is a profit making organization that sells chicken, along with other food and beverage services. I personally don't eat there, but they appear to provide a fair & competitive product to the consumer, and they employ thousands of people; providing benefits, along with paying taxes to the federal and local Governments.

Additionally, please elaborate on how you see society? Do you see that is has improved in the past century, or are we going backwards?

[Metalject]

It seems to me things are really getting out of hand with all this gay marriage, gay rights or religious stuff. No one is really able to have freedom of speech or their own beliefs. It seems in the near future we will all have to be gay or Bi Muslim at one point of our life or another or we will be deemed prejudice. Where does the madness end? There are extremest on both ends.

The anger towards Christians when it comes to gay marriage or homosexuals in general makes no sense when you consider the muslim factor. Think about it, Chicago's mayor Rahm Emanuel states Chick-Fil-A doesn't represent Chicago values and is not welcome in their town, yet not long ago he has his arm wrapped around Louis Farrakhan, a man full of outright hate and Muslim who like most Muslims would just assume kill anyone who's gay. Let's not forget Emanuel was also not long ago one of president Obama's top guys and Obama till recently wasn't a supporter of gay marriage and didn't change his position until after Emanuel was gone.

Or how about this one. The city of Boston recently approved a new Muslim community center to be built on public land...as Muslims hate gays, my only question is why isn't the gay community outraged about this?

You're right, it's all insanity. In the end though, it all boils down to free speech and the right to have and voice an opinion of your own. This is one of the biggest things the America is about, not forcing others to share your opinions.

[lovbyts]

The anger towards Christians when it comes to gay marriage or homosexuals in general makes no sense when you consider the muslim factor. Think about it, Chicago's mayor Rahm Emanuel states Chick-Fil-A doesn't represent Chicago values and is not welcome in their town, yet not long ago he has his arm wrapped around Louis Farrakhan, a man full of outright hate and Muslim who like most Muslims would just assume kill anyone who's gay. Let's not forget Emanuel was also not long ago one of president Obama's top guys and Obama till recently wasn't a supporter of gay marriage and didn't change his position until after Emanuel was gone.

Or how about this one. The city of Boston recently approved a new Muslim community center to be built on public land...as Muslims hate gays, my only question is why isn't the gay community outraged about this?

You're right, it's all insanity. In the end though, it all boils down to free speech and the right to have and voice an opinion of your own. This is one of the biggest things the America is about, not forcing others to share your opinions.

Or at least that is one of the things America was based on. I'm not so sure it's holds much truth anymore. If you disagree with the wrong person, group or voice your opinion to loud you are an easily marked as an extremest or even terrorist sometimes. Our freedoms and choices are being taken away daily as more groups claim bigotry and demand political correctness by all. Although America was based on in God we trust it's now offensive to pray in school or have most anything religious in a government building or at least if it's Christian.

[Honkey_Kong]

To me what is sad in all this mess is that here it is 2012 and we still haven't gotten over this gay issue. Everyone has been touched in one way or another by it. We all have a gay uncle or brother or dad or cousin or a lesbian sister, etc. If we could spend more time figuring out how to get us all back to work and get America strong again that should be the focus. I mean think about it only about 10 percent of the population is gay so how can that affect every one else? And really how many gays are actually going to get married? And as far as the keeping the sanctity of marriage for the straight folks only, well lets see now the divorce rate is hovering at 60% now. And one has only to turn to the likes of Jerry Springer and Maury Povich to see how marriage in America really is working out. With titles of Are you my baby's daddy? And my cheating husband or my cheating wife. And all the married folks getting paternity tests? So really can gays screw it up any worse by them allowed to be married? But I agree with DSM I don't need a marriage certificate. Call it anything else for us as long as we are allowed the same rights and privledges and we can call it a day. All this CEO has done is further polarize the nation on this subject, which is what he planned to do otherwise he would have kept quiet and done what he believed in anonymously. But then this is election year.

Shol'va, I think the biggest problem with this Chick Fil A thing is that the media keeps giving it more attention. If they didn't constantly put it on TV, practically nobody would've ever even known that the dude said that. It'd just be a tree falling in the woods with nobody there. That CEO was just exercising his right to be a douche, it was really the media's fault if it polarizes the nation.

If people weren't told to make a big deal about it, they wouldn't give a shit about gays or gay marriage. It's really none of our business what somebody else wants to do. And that really doesn't just pertain to sexual orientation related topics, part of what it was supposed to mean to be American was to have the freedom to do what we want as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else's freedom to do the same.

By the way, it was a pretty retarded move financially by the CEO. I don't have any fact to support this, but I'm guessing gay people eat as much fast food as straight people. So pissing off 10% of your customers isn't a smart idea. Especially when 10% can make or break you.

[Metalject]

Or at least that is one of the things America was based on. I'm not so sure it's holds much truth anymore. If you disagree with the wrong person, group or voice your opinion to loud you are an easily marked as an extremest or even terrorist sometimes. Our freedoms and choices are being taken away daily as more groups claim bigotry and demand political correctness by all. Although America was based on in God we trust it's now offensive to pray in school or have most anything religious in a government building or at least if it's Christian.

One of my favorite things I ever read was an argument Thomas Paine made before the continental congress when they were debating the creation of government. Many of the men were devout Christians, more than many in public education like to admit but their personal writings tell the truth. Still, there were those who were not and Paine was one of them. Paine was an atheist, and true blue atheist and the way he confronted those who disagree with biblical principles being foundations pieces of the constitution and declaration of independence was perfect. He simply stated, no one is forcing religious beliefs on you, but these principles that we find in these teachings are merely common sense and on that basis, on the basis of common sense Paine had no problem signing the documents...he felt it was idiotic not to. In the modes age, you'd be hard pressed to find more Thomas Paine's as they would moan and cry if any idea came from anything biblically related even if made more sense than anything else.

One of the biggest problems in our society today though really isn't the issue of arguing these points into the ground, it's the manner by which they're argued. American has become soft, the politically correct age has taken men and molded them into this often soft spoken spineless pile of goo. We have traded our masculinity in for protecting feelings, being submissive when we have an opinion that might offend another. It's almost a miracle, no, it is a miracle that anything gets done any more with this effeminate state of mind most men have bowed down to. You see it in so many aspects in life, and that goes for steroid users. Here's a group of generally well-educated men, well spoken and who normally hold a lot of drive and ambition to get things done in their life. Yet, most cower in the shadows rather than fight the injustice of the steroid laws and allow their liberty to be trampled on by the hysterical emotions of others. It's sickening but it can be seen in numerous areas of life.

[Metalject]

Shol'va, I think the biggest problem with this Chick Fil A thing is that the media keeps giving it more attention. If they didn't constantly put it on TV, practically nobody would've ever even known that the dude said that. It'd just be a tree falling in the woods with nobody there. That CEO was just exercising his right to be a douche, it was really the media's fault if it polarizes the nation.

If people weren't told to make a big deal about it, they wouldn't give a shit about gays or gay marriage. It's really none of our business what somebody else wants to do. And that really doesn't just pertain to sexual orientation related topics, part of what it was supposed to mean to be American was to have the freedom to do what we want as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else's freedom to do the same.

By the way, it was a pretty retarded move financially by the CEO. I don't have any fact to support this, but I'm guessing gay people eat as much fast food as straight people. So pissing off 10% of your customers isn't a smart idea. Especially when 10% can make or break you.

Of course the media made a big deal about it...finally they made a big deal about something that was a big deal. What Cathy said got several mayors so pissed off that they made threatening statements to Chick-Fil-A threatening to ban their restaurant. They threatened to punish him on the basis that he used his right to free speech in a way they didn't agree with...that is un-American at its core and is the pure definition.

I also seriously doubt Chick-Fil-A is going to lose any business over this. Sure, some gay people won't eat there anymore, but a lot of guy people could care less about this issue and will still go there when they want a chicken sandwich. More importantly, Chick-Fil-A more than doubled its sales Wed hitting a new record by doubling the previous one...that's not a small increase. And I'd say it's safe to say a lot of Americans will continue to be repeat customers of Chick-Fil-A in support of Dan Cathy's right to exercise free speech.

[Honkey_Kong]

Of course the media made a big deal about it...finally they made a big deal about something that was a big deal. What Cathy said got several mayors so pissed off that they made threatening statements to Chick-Fil-A threatening to ban their restaurant. They threatened to punish him on the basis that he used his right to free speech in a way they didn't agree with...that is un-American at its core and is the pure definition.

I also seriously doubt Chick-Fil-A is going to lose any business over this. Sure, some gay people won't eat there anymore, but a lot of guy people could care less about this issue and will still go there when they want a chicken sandwich. More importantly, Chick-Fil-A more than doubled its sales Wed hitting a new record by doubling the previous one...that's not a small increase. And I'd say it's safe to say a lot of Americans will continue to be repeat customers of Chick-Fil-A in support of Dan Cathy's right to exercise free speech.

My point was if the media didn't put this f[u[cker on TV, the mayors would've never threatened to ban the restaurant. Nobody would've known so they wouldn't have given a shit. The media has a responsibility to the public and by purposely polarizing the public like this, for the sole purpose of sensationalism, they didn't serve it. Granted there isn't much to be done because they can hide behind the first amendment, but more of the blame should go on them.

And as for losing business, sure they had a great one day after that, but how long will they sustain those numbers? How many gay people and gay sympathizers will stop eating there? We wont know for a couple quarters when they report their earnings. But you're right most people wont give a shit and will eat there too. But the gay demographic is still millions of dollars that Chick-Fil-A could have if they didn't alienate their customers.

[gixxerboy1]

Of course the media made a big deal about it...finally they made a big deal about something that was a big deal. What Cathy said got several mayors so pissed off that they made threatening statements to Chick-Fil-A threatening to ban their restaurant. They threatened to punish him on the basis that he used his right to free speech in a way they didn't agree with...that is un-American at its core and is the pure definition.

Towns already ban businesses. But you dont hear much about it because the the religious people pushing out the business. One time its against the religious people and its against his freedom of speech.
IMO religious people look like fools. They are the biggest hypocrites i ever seen and they use religion to justify all their hate and agenda. But they are perfectly find to cry how they are the victim when someone does a little something to them.

[HitIt]

[Times Roman]

a man full of outright hate and Muslim who like most Muslims would just assume kill anyone who's gay.

that's real interesting when you stop and consider that in most muslim countries that seperate the sexes early on, there is a very high incidence rate of homosexuality. for example, in afghanistan, there is something like a 50% incidence rate. Don't believe me? better check your facts!

Or at least that is one of the things America was based on. I'm not so sure it's holds much truth anymore. If you disagree with the wrong person, group or voice your opinion to loud you are an easily marked as an extremest or even terrorist sometimes. Our freedoms and choices are being taken away daily as more groups claim bigotry and demand political correctness by all. Although America was based on in God we trust it's now offensive to pray in school or have most anything religious in a government building or at least if it's Christian.

i think that is the way it should be. I don't really believe in a supreme being (?) and feel organized religion is a total scam, so yeah, it is offensive to me that the government holds certain religious doctrine as center to various operational mandates, such as placing one's hand over a bible and saying "so help me god".

[Vettester]

Adam Smith, the drive thru guy, posts an apology video ...

[Times Roman]

Adam Smith, the drive thru guy, posts an apology video ...

fancy that how people are always sorry AFTER they get in trouble? I could only listen to the initial aplogy and had to turn it off.

any chance he's thinking this might get his job back if it goes viral with a favorable public opinion?

[spywizard]

*****ification of men in america...


apology??? for voicing an opinion ??

where's Farrakhan's apology, Jane Fonda... etc...

[RaginCajun]

]*****ification of men in america... [/B]


apology??? for voicing an opinion ??

where's Farrakhan's apology, Jane Fonda... etc...

wussification is right! people get offended all the time. big f'n deal. go cry to your momma!

[SexySweetheart]

Adam Smith, the drive thru guy, posts an apology video ...

we all say stupid sh!t , we dont all regret it, and certainly even fewer of us would publicly admit to being in the wrong and appologize


An effort to correct his mistake, even if it is a self serving effort ...isnt that what we are supposed to do when we eff up? i give him credit for owning his behaviour and taking steps to fix a bad situation


...and its kinda scarey to be again reafrimed that our private lives once off the work clock are not actualy our privates lives anymore. Not saying the firing was unjustified, just that it stuff like this that reminds me of my job and where/what I post online that sparks an urge in me to edit all my posts and delete my pix from sites like here...

[Shol'va]

[QUOTE=Sexy4mySweetheart;6102337]we all say stupid sh!t , we dont all regret it, and certainly even fewer of us would publicly admit to being in the wrong and appologize




An effort to correct his mistake, even if it is a self serving effort ...isnt that what we are supposed to do when we eff up? i give him credit for owning his behaviour and taking steps to fix a bad situation




That's what I do on here when I eff up which seems like lots of times these days.Lord I apologise....lol

[JD250]

Wait a minute.....DSM and Sholva are gay!!!????

[JD250]

Oh, and I really don't think the guy in the video did anything wrong or out of line.......am I seeing the same video as everyone else, he merely stated his views and did so without being demeaning or personal attacks.....a bully!? WTF??? He went with an agenda and seems kinda stupid but I guess it takes all types to make the world turn but I sure didn't see a monster or a bully.

[Shol'va]

Wait a minute.....DSM and Sholva are gay!!!????

Now see that's how rumors get started.... But now that we are outed here's my number 867-5309 ask for Tommy Tutone

[Shol'va]

Oh, and I really don't think the guy in the video did anything wrong or out of line.......am I seeing the same video as everyone else, he merely stated his views and did so without being demeaning or personal attacks.....a bully!? WTF??? He went with an agenda and seems kinda stupid but I guess it takes all types to make the world turn but I sure didn't see a monster or a bully.

Same here. I was expecting him to toss the water at the drive in girl or cuss her out or something really derogatory, but nope nothing exciting. Just a barrage of why he thinks the owner is homophobic and hateful. I didn't see the need for his boss to fire him over such a trivial matter. But he did right IMO by posting an apology to the girl. Better still he needs to drive thru again and hand her a dozen red long stem roses with an apology note. That would go a long way and show a little class on his part to make up for his earlier behavior towards her. We don't have a chick filet near me but I go to a place called Strouds...

[Honkey_Kong]

Same here. I was expecting him to toss the water at the drive in girl or cuss her out or something really derogatory, but nope nothing exciting. Just a barrage of why he thinks the owner is homophobic and hateful. I didn't see the need for his boss to fire him over such a trivial matter. But he did right IMO by posting an apology to the girl. Better still he needs to drive thru again and hand her a dozen red long stem roses with an apology note. That would go a long way and show a little class on his part to make up for his earlier behavior towards her. We don't have a chick filet near me but I go to a place called Strouds...

That slogan can't be real hahahaha