its never enough.....

**greenwell001** · 09-10-2012, 05:06 PM

I never feel like I'm doin enough. Right now I'm doing a 4 day split. Everything is growing pretty well besides tri's and bi's, and it is really starting to piss me off. After I'm done with back, my bi's are so full of blood that its hard to get solid sets in. On chest day I can do dips all day after chest, then skullcrushers, then overhead extensions, then single underhand on cables. WTF! I like to keep it around an hr, might get rid of last movement of chest and back and add a movement of tri's and bi's on those days. Who trains bi's and tri's twice a week with solid pressing/pulling workouts through the week. I think other lifts might suffer from hitting them twice a week. Anybody got suggestions, throw em at me.

**>Good Luck<** · 09-10-2012, 05:12 PM

Yea I feel you on that bud..

I switched up from the old "back/bi & chest/tri"

Now I do chest bi, and another day in the week I do back alone. Add tris to shoulder day. This way I feel I get a good solid bicep workout, and a second one while I work back. I like it and I've actually increased my lifts slightly.

Day 1 chest bi

Day 2 legs abs forearms

Day 3 off ( lazy day rest only )

Day 4 shoulders tris

Day 5 back traps

Day 6-7 off ( cardio, or sports or random fun )

Works for me, i like it!

**Times Roman** · 09-10-2012, 10:04 PM

Never enough?
for me, this is a hobby, not an obsession, contrary to what my family may tell you.
and because i'm not a pro, nor do i want to be one, once I develop a routine, then i just try to get in and out the gym as quickly as possible. But I've been doing this for many years, and I've already been through that obsessive "not enough" stage. Now i'm in the "let's not get hurt" stage.

**GreMos** · 09-10-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Never enough?
for me, this is a hobby, not an obsession, contrary to what my family may tell you.
and because i'm not a pro, nor do i want to be one, once I develop a routine, then i just try to get in and out the gym as quickly as possible. But I've been doing this for many years, and I've already been through that obsessive "not enough" stage. Now i'm in the "let's not get hurt" stage.

Grampa-pump over here

**Shol'va** · 09-10-2012, 10:14 PM

Lets face it there are several things in life that never seem to be enough. You just touched on one of them.

**Times Roman** · 09-10-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Lets face it there are several things in life that never seem to be enough. You just touched on one of them.

and i imagine for most, since i'm this way, sex would be on the list of things you never get enough of?

and cash. never get/have enough of that too.

and oakland raider victories. never enough of those!!!!

**Jdbjr86** · 09-10-2012, 10:33 PM

I feel, aside from re-booting your whole routine, perhaps doing arms 2x a week is the better way to go. I am doing Jim Wendlers 5/3/1 and am doing very heavy pressing/pulling movements all based around the standing press, bench press, squat and deadlift. 4 lifts a week, basically 2 upper and 2 lower body. on my 2 upper days i train arms, and generally i just switch around which comes first each upper day, but hitting both 2x a week. been working great for me so far, hope this helps a bit! best of luck

**greenwell001** · 09-10-2012, 10:48 PM

Yeah every functional movement is push/pull, like paul chek says. Well some of muscles used are not primary and there for don't grow equally/as fast. Makes sense.

**greenwell001** · 09-10-2012, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Never enough?
for me, this is a hobby, not an obsession, contrary to what my family may tell you.
and because i'm not a pro, nor do i want to be one, once I develop a routine, then i just try to get in and out the gym as quickly as possible. But I've been doing this for many years, and I've already been through that obsessive "not enough" stage. Now i'm in the "let's not get hurt" stage.

i too am simultaneously in the don't get hurt phase....

**spywizard** · 09-10-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by greenwell001

I never feel like I'm doin enough. Right now I'm doing a 4 day split. Everything is growing pretty well besides tri's and bi's, and it is really starting to piss me off. After I'm done with back, my bi's are so full of blood that its hard to get solid sets in. On chest day I can do dips all day after chest, then skullcrushers, then overhead extensions, then single underhand on cables. WTF! I like to keep it around an hr, might get rid of last movement of chest and back and add a movement of tri's and bi's on those days. Who trains bi's and tri's twice a week with solid pressing/pulling workouts through the week. I think other lifts might suffer from hitting them twice a week. Anybody got suggestions, throw em at me.

are you attempting size and strength?? or shape?? sounds to me like shape and you are overworking them...

I'd suggest for 6 weeks switching to a 4-6 rep range 3 sets 2 exercise max weight..

so on your 1`st stet you are almost able to get the 6th rep on the 3 set you can do 3-4 when you can do 6 reps on the 3 set you increase the weight..

wait 4 days and do the body part again..

**greenwell001** · 09-11-2012, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

are you attempting size and strength?? or shape?? sounds to me like shape and you are overworking them...

I'd suggest for 6 weeks switching to a 4-6 rep range 3 sets 2 exercise max weight..

so on your 1`st stet you are almost able to get the 6th rep on the 3 set you can do 3-4 when you can do 6 reps on the 3 set you increase the weight..

wait 4 days and do the body part again..

Thanks for the tip bud....I train for power and explosiveness, but the arms just started to look funny and my wife called me out on it, I know, WTF right? I will take your advice and see what happens.

**JAB1** · 09-11-2012, 11:11 AM

YEah I can relate. I have recently thrown an extra bi/tri day here nad there to my normal routine whcih is chest/tri, back/bi. Definately enjoy working bi/tri fresh for a change, can actually make them sore the next day(slightly)!!