Is it me or has the forum gotten a lot more calm and mature these days?

[system admin]

I troll around from time to time and I rarely see anything negative going on. Is that the norm these days?

Bc

[austinite]

Since the implementation of the $100 reward for recognized members, I've certainly noticed a better level of interaction.

[Lunk1]

Everyone could be on pins and needles after "the banning" lol.

I can fix it Admin if you prefer

[lovbyts]

Sorry I'm sure I can help stir it up a bit if you want?

Everyone could be on pins and needles after "the banning" lol.

I can fix it Admin if you prefer

Ha, like minds.

[DanB]

alot of members have simply given up on q&a

[MuscleInk]

Everyone could be on pins and needles after "the banning" lol.

I can fix it Admin if you prefer

Banning?

Damn. I'm gone for a week and all hell breaks lose.

[dec11]

does seem calmer since ive been back

[system admin]

Not looking for trouble!! haha

Dan B, a lot of members have given up on Q & A? What do you mean?

[dec11]

i can relate to dan's post, it can be hard weathering some of the hard headed immaturity in there

[DanB]

Not looking for trouble!! haha

Dan B, a lot of members have given up on Q & A? What do you mean?

I have personally spoken to some and noticed others dont frequent Q&A much anymore, I'm mainly refering to members who are accredited by the forum with a colour etc, I obviously cant speak for everybody but it seems that one of the main reasons is what Dec pointed out, but thats par for the course, and I have noticed that the forum goes through phases, this is just another phase I guess.........

[system admin]

There are ways to fix! LOL

What is the purpose of being a knowledgeable (not your specific title) member and not help in the Q and A? This website had the best Q and A section about 7 years ago when I had a bunch of mods who were dealing on the side. It seems that most of the best answers are from guys who want to sell you shit! haha There are some helpful people in there, but whats up with all the:

"Your too young

Use the search

Read

Thats been said already"

Chances are its their first time on the site and they dont know a thing about steroids . Even if they are too young, they are going to take the shit anyway if we dont help them. We should tell them they are too young and THEN tell them what they want to know so they can make up their mind on what they should do. When I was young I didnt listen to ANYTHING anyone said, so it would be best to tell me to do it the safest way possible. I have been beating my head on the counter trying to figure out how to fix this issue, but im running out of ideas lol

That was totally off topic and I know that! lol Getting it off my mind

[system admin]

We ALL started out not knowing anything and we had to start somewhere. Maybe I will just hire a few guys to stay in there all day and answer the questions for the newbies. Ive been thinking about it for a while now, but it just seems that there are so many smart guys on that it would take away from the difference in opinion and feedback from the community as a whole.

[AD]

There are ways to fix! LOL

What is the purpose of being a knowledgeable (not your specific title) member and not help in the Q and A? This website had the best Q and A section about 7 years ago when I had a bunch of mods who were dealing on the side. It seems that most of the best answers are from guys who want to sell you shit! haha There are some helpful people in there, but whats up with all the:

"Your too young

Use the search

Read

Thats been said already"

Chances are its their first time on the site and they dont know a thing about steroids . Even if they are too young, they are going to take the shit anyway if we dont help them. We should tell them they are too young and THEN tell them what they want to know so they can make up their mind on what they should do. When I was young I didnt listen to ANYTHING anyone said, so it would be best to tell me to do it the safest way possible. I have been beating my head on the counter trying to figure out how to fix this issue, but im running out of ideas lol

That was totally off topic and I know that! lol Getting it off my mind

you're the boss, man. all you have to do is give the command and anything can be changed. maybe everybody try to be a bit lax with the 25y/o age limit, or anybody that advice newbies to use the search button gets a demerit point!..lol

like i said, you set the rules and people will follow, willingly or not...

[system admin]

Its just that I dont really understand how we got to the point of having a newbie ask a question and the only answers they get are 1 of 6 and none are really helpful most of the time. I dont think there many people on this forum who want younger people to use steroids . However, they ARE going to use them and they are here to learn how to do it. The best answer is to tell them why its not safe and then to tell them the safest way to use them. Otherwise, they are just going to come back under a different screen name and ask the same question and this time say he is 34 and get the answer he WANTS to hear.

Newbies are newbies. They dont know the rules here. They dont know where to look for help. Most dont understand how to use the search feature and if they did, they wouldnt know what they are looking for. I used to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt when it came to common sense, but I quickly learned that not many people are very bright and that I was much to expecting! haha

Anyway, we just need to try to help these young guys because a LOT of us are really getting old on these forums and are forgetting what its like to be young lol.

[AD]

Its just that I dont really understand how we got to the point of having a newbie ask a question and the only answers they get are 1 of 6 and none are really helpful most of the time. I dont think there many people on this forum who want younger people to use steroids . However, they ARE going to use them and they are here to learn how to do it. The best answer is to tell them why its not safe and then to tell them the safest way to use them. Otherwise, they are just going to come back under a different screen name and ask the same question and this time say he is 34 and get the answer he WANTS to hear.

Newbies are newbies. They dont know the rules here. They dont know where to look for help. Most dont understand how to use the search feature and if they did, they wouldnt know what they are looking for. I used to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt when it came to common sense, but I quickly learned that not many people are very bright and that I was much to expecting! haha

Anyway, we just need to try to help these young guys because a LOT of us are really getting old on these forums and are forgetting what its like to be young lol.

message received!

[system admin]

BTW,

I am NOT saying to just give up on the guy and give him all the info he needs WITHOUT explaining the problems and reasons for telling him not to do it. I am saying that if after you tell the guy why its not a good idea and he continues to ask questions like he doesnt care, try to help him the best you can to minimize issues and be sure to tell him again that its not wise.

[lovbyts]

I think like DanB said, it just goes through phases. I know I will spend several week in the Q&A section trying to help but after a while I need to take a break for a couple of weeks and feel like I just have nothing to say or advise to give. Sometimes I feel just the opposite and feel like I have a lot to offer. It just gets old sometimes and it's better to take a break than let it get to you and get yourself in trouble for not biting your tongue.

[AD]

i personally look for threads with very few replies and try to answer those questions. those with 30-40 replies already don't really need another one more.

[dec11]

yep, unfortunately its a 'between a rock and hard place ' kinda situation. i knew nothing about the dangers of using on a still developing natural system and learnt it through the experienced guys on here like Big, T-mos and Marcus. the only reason i stick to not advising youngsters now is that its medical fact and i dont want to compromise my morals or be a hypocrite. i just point it out now, and explain that i dont think its appropriate for me to advise. previously i'd have taken the fire and brimstone approach but there's no point in that and it just whips them up.

i prefer discussions these days rather than advising, its too much of an open subject to give any given individual the 100% correct advice imho. what about a section that newbies are confined to for say the first week that details pitfalls, debunks common myths and gives all the possible adverse effects?

[system admin]

I completely understand what you are saying lovbyts. There is only so much you can do at one time without wanting to hang yourself! Its NOT an easy deal to answer the same crap over and over and over... especially to some of the smart asses who come in with no respect. But, if everyone just does it in cycles, it will be a bit less taxing. Our reputation is "the unfriendly board" around other forums. I just wanted to see if we can try to do a better job with that reputation and maybe give a little more input to some of the young newbies.

Asiandude... you have the right idea. 30-40 replies means one of two things; the kid has been run off by 20 members because he didnt use the search OR someone answered the question! haha That approach you have seems to be a good one for sure

None-the-less, I appreciate ALL members who give back to the community and I love to watch how it evolves throughout the years. Ive seen many newbies become respected staff around here. Pretty cool to be a part of

Bc

[system admin]

I like that approach as well. I think if you explain your personal reason for NOT helping him with his issue, it will at least let him know that you personally think its not wise and you do not want to be a part of him doing himself harm... that would go a long way. "you're to young" is just not a helpful answer if you know what i mean.

Discussions are GREAT and can lead to a lot more logical education vs the easy answer.

yep, unfortunately its a 'between a rock and hard place ' kinda situation. i knew nothing about the dangers of using on a still developing natural system and learnt it through the experienced guys on here like Big, T-mos and Marcus. the only reason i stick to not advising youngsters now is that its medical fact and i dont want to compromise my morals or be a hypocrite. i just point it out now, and explain that i dont think its appropriate for me to advise. previously i'd have taken the fire and brimstone approach but there's no point in that and it just whips them up.

i prefer discussions these days rather than advising, its too much of an open subject to give any given individual the 100% correct advice imho. what about a section that newbies are confined to for say the first week that details pitfalls, debunks common myths and gives all the possible adverse effects?

[dec11]

I completely understand what you are saying lovbyts. There is only so much you can do at one time without wanting to hang yourself! Its NOT an easy deal to answer the same crap over and over and over... especially to some of the smart asses who come in with no respect. But, if everyone just does it in cycles, it will be a bit less taxing. Our reputation is "the unfriendly board" around other forums. I just wanted to see if we can try to do a better job with that reputation and maybe give a little more input to some of the young newbies.

Asiandude... you have the right idea. 30-40 replies means one of two things; the kid has been run off by 20 members because he didnt use the search OR someone answered the question! haha That approach you have seems to be a good one for sure

None-the-less, I appreciate ALL members who give back to the community and I love to watch how it evolves throughout the years. Ive seen many newbies become respected staff around here. Pretty cool to be a part of

Bc

ive been on a few diff boards now and that translates as 'our pokey little is forum shit, so lets bash that other huge one'

[Honkey_Kong]

BTW,

I am NOT saying to just give up on the guy and give him all the info he needs WITHOUT explaining the problems and reasons for telling him not to do it. I am saying that if after you tell the guy why its not a good idea and he continues to ask questions like he doesnt care, try to help him the best you can to minimize issues and be sure to tell him again that its not wise.

I've been noticing a fair portion of the newbies though are like 6' and 150lbs looking to do a cycle. A lot of them are really young as well. But they all claim to have a solid diet and training program.

[lovbyts]

i personally look for threads with very few replies and try to answer those questions. those with 30-40 replies already don't really need another one more.

I do the same but with even less. It if has 10 or more I will typically skip it especially if I see the last post is from a knowledgeable member.

I've been noticing a fair portion of the newbies though are like 6' and 150lbs looking to do a cycle. A lot of them are really young as well. But they all claim to have a solid diet and training program.

Ha, you will get use to that (or not) it's been the norm for years. We try to explain through personal experience but most still dont get it but it is gratifying the few who do and decide to listen. It's still an on going process. I have worked with many who still struggle for days or weeks after telling everyone they wont cycle and they constantly PM me asking me about what if this or that. lol You do have to be patent and do your best but we all need a break now and then.

Thank you for the lounge.

[songdog]

Yes I can see your point on the under age kids.Beacuse in the long run we are beating or heads against the wall. I to am against under age use of aas.But I believe we need to change our stance on this.Beacuse it may just be safer to teach them the right way.Beacuse like you said they are going to do it anyway.

[Matt]

Yes I can see your point on the under age kids.Beacuse in the long run we are beating or heads against the wall. I to am against under age use of aas.But I believe we need to change our stance on this.Beacuse it may just be safer to teach them the right way.Beacuse like you said they are going to do it anyway.

Exactly...

We all go into threads and get mad because the OP has asked stupid, dangerous or retarded questions and has attitude and its at this point we need to think and show our maturity before posting. Ive learnt to either just move on and not post if i can not add anything of value or cool the situation and add something positive...

Its far easier to not post in a thread and move on than it is to post something that adds nothing...

We also have to remember that even though a question has been asked 1000 times each new member likes answers tailored to them......

[scorpion62]

i personally look for threads with very few replies and try to answer those questions. those with 30-40 replies already don't really need another one more.

Yes I do this to

[Honkey_Kong]

Its just that I dont really understand how we got to the point of having a newbie ask a question and the only answers they get are 1 of 6 and none are really helpful most of the time. I dont think there many people on this forum who want younger people to use steroids . However, they ARE going to use them and they are here to learn how to do it. The best answer is to tell them why its not safe and then to tell them the safest way to use them. Otherwise, they are just going to come back under a different screen name and ask the same question and this time say he is 34 and get the answer he WANTS to hear.

Newbies are newbies. They dont know the rules here. They dont know where to look for help. Most dont understand how to use the search feature and if they did, they wouldnt know what they are looking for. I used to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt when it came to common sense, but I quickly learned that not many people are very bright and that I was much to expecting! haha

Anyway, we just need to try to help these young guys because a LOT of us are really getting old on these forums and are forgetting what its like to be young lol.

A problem I've found with the search feature is when the site is having those moments where it's laggy, it can take take forever to return a result with the search.

[scorpion62]

i personally look for threads with very few replies and try to answer those questions. those with 30-40 replies already don't

This is what I do

[Honkey_Kong]

Ha, you will get use to that (or not) it's been the norm for years. We try to explain through personal experience but most still dont get it but it is gratifying the few who do and decide to listen. It's still an on going process. I have worked with many who still struggle for days or weeks after telling everyone they wont cycle and they constantly PM me asking me about what if this or that. lol You do have to be patent and do your best but we all need a break now and then.

Thank you for the lounge.

I've seen it since I've been on, but I've been seeing more of them lately. I mean it's like nevermind the fact the kid is 18, he's never going to make any gains even with gear when he's eating a Lean Cuisine for dinner.

[Misery13]

alot of members have simply given up on q&a

Yes sir I agree. It's the same questions everyday.

[lovbyts]

Yes sir I agree. It's the same questions everyday.

It's not the same question that is a problem, it's the same stubborn a immature attitude of they know better than you/everyone else and wont listen.

[jasc]

There are ways to fix! LOL

What is the purpose of being a knowledgeable (not your specific title) member and not help in the Q and A? This website had the best Q and A section about 7 years ago when I had a bunch of mods who were dealing on the side. It seems that most of the best answers are from guys who want to sell you shit! haha There are some helpful people in there, but whats up with all the:

"Your too young

Use the search

Read

Thats been said already"

Chances are its their first time on the site and they dont know a thing about steroids . Even if they are too young, they are going to take the shit anyway if we dont help them. We should tell them they are too young and THEN tell them what they want to know so they can make up their mind on what they should do. When I was young I didnt listen to ANYTHING anyone said, so it would be best to tell me to do it the safest way possible. I have been beating my head on the counter trying to figure out how to fix this issue, but im running out of ideas lol

That was totally off topic and I know that! lol Getting it off my mind

10 - 4 sir. I'm glad you've addressed this again and will be linking back to this thread. I often see members get jumped on for offering advice to anyone under 25. Personally I do not agree with kids cycling either, but just like you mentioned, I believe they'll do it anyway so we might as well help as much as possible after an effort to disuade has been put forth.

[lovbyts]

I just spent about an hour in the Q&A section and I think my IQ dropped 10 points.

[SEOINAGE]

We had this problem on another forum, where I actually still keep my training log. However the questions were absolutely ridiculous, and people stopped helping. Over time there were other issues and the veteran community disappeared as well, and no quality members came in to take their place. So it's something you have to be careful to balance, you want as many people that visit the forum to become educated and vets themselves and stick around.

[system admin]

I think that many of you understand what I am saying. We ALL KNOW that the Q&A section can be frustrating, but if we neglect that portion of our forum **ESPECIALLY OUR STAFF and RECOGNIZED MEMBERS**, we really start to lose what makes us so bad ass. I mean, what good is an AAS forum if the newbies cant ask newbie questions to experienced members? In time, we could wind up just being a bunch of **TITLED** knowledgeable guys yanking off one another talking about how knowledgeable we are!! haha! (Im not really into yanking others off

The Fix:

When someone asks a question, do NOT give some BS answer that doesnt do anything but raise your post count. Answer the questions completely. If he is too young, tell him his is too young, but then explain why he is too young and the dangers. If he persists about asking questions regarding USING steroids , give him the damn answers. Everyone who joins here is a screen name with a fake date of birth! If we dont help, he will go somewhere else for the answers and why would we allow that?

EVERYONE is a NEWBIE at some point. VETS and KNOWLEDGEABLE members are mentored somewhere or by someone at some point. We may as well keep them here and not some bullshit source board. That reminds me of a GREAT POINT:

If you think your hurting these young members by giving them information on using AAS, how bad do you think its going to be when he wonders off to another AAS forum where they openly source and could give two sh!ts about this young guys health? Answer their questions completely or just dont answer them and let someone else.


Bc

[Lunk1]

Great...just went to Q&A and a bunch of you guys started bumping 2 month old threads lol.

It's like the same reaction when a parent chews a kids ass...

Admin...I can't help but respectfully disagree with you to a degree. I have seen many "kids" come on here hell bent on sticking shit in their ass and after some tuff love they see the dangers and are still here learning about nutrition and workout programs.

I think it simply goes against alot of ppls moral thread to offer advise to kids on how to harm themselves, even if the kid will most likely do what he wants in the end. I applaud the guys who have taken a stance and drawn a hard line against encouraging use of steroids by teenagers.

But hey...your board, your rules! Just my .02....

[gearbox]

There are ways to fix! LOL

What is the purpose of being a knowledgeable (not your specific title) member and not help in the Q and A? This website had the best Q and A section about 7 years ago when I had a bunch of mods who were dealing on the side. It seems that most of the best answers are from guys who want to sell you shit! haha There are some helpful people in there, but whats up with all the:

"Your too young

Use the search

Read

Thats been said already"

Chances are its their first time on the site and they dont know a thing about steroids . Even if they are too young, they are going to take the shit anyway if we dont help them. We should tell them they are too young and THEN tell them what they want to know so they can make up their mind on what they should do. When I was young I didnt listen to ANYTHING anyone said, so it would be best to tell me to do it the safest way possible. I have been beating my head on the counter trying to figure out how to fix this issue, but im running out of ideas lol

That was totally off topic and I know that! lol Getting it off my mind

Problem with this is we are lighting the match to cause a fire. (Assuming they come on here with a match)
I have guys from the gym that do listen to me when I lay down facts for them to consider. Most of the time ones that are stupid or immature and can't wait are the ones that come back saying
I have gyno
I can't get an erection
I am depressed

And are response is can we see before and after blood work.

I have the tolerance to stand q&a just letting u know my.thoughts

[gearbox]

Admir-project for you! Is there a way to not let a post go through if its the same question as on the first page of questions.
Everyday I see 3 of the same threads in the top 10-15 recent posts.
Something maybe saying your question has already been asked in most recent posts. Just like the gotta wait 60-90 seconds to post again.
Just an idea

[SEOINAGE]

Admir-project for you! Is there a way to not let a post go through if its the same question as on the first page of questions.
Everyday I see 3 of the same threads in the top 10-15 recent posts.
Something maybe saying your question has already been asked in most recent posts. Just like the gotta wait 60-90 seconds to post again.
Just an idea

Now that would be hard to code and have it function well.