Troubled Teenager Tells Her Story via Cards then Kills Herself

**JP-MAN** · 10-15-2012, 12:00 PM

everything is different now a days with facebook and social media. this bully shit is at a whole new level, stuff most of us old men never had to deal with.

this story breaks me, i really cried watching that video, it hurt to watch someone in so much pain...

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 12:05 PM

TR appreciate knowing someone has been there. I guess my take is i'm not real happy some of the stuff happened, but I tell myself I'm who I am today because of my hardships. We all have things we would have done differently if we could go back in time. I have to look at it like my eyes are open. There are many times when I tell myself lifting weights and working out are the most important thing in my life aside from family and doing right morally. I feel that way because of where I have been, where I am at and where I see myself going.

**Lunk1** · 10-15-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Many kids often times blame themselves for divorcing parents. Divorce is very traumatic for children. there is seperation anxiety, the feeling that somehow the child failed the parents, feelings of loss of love.......

she came from a broken home, which is traumatic. When you begin to add other problems, it becomes a volitile mix.

I understand divorce and the effects on children but tons of kids go through it every day and adjust just fine...it all comes down to parenting...as I said in my initial statement.

Love your kids, support your kids, be there for your kids (divorced or not)

Raise them to be strong and independent

Make sure they know they can come to you and turn to you when they are feeling bad.

Simple rules of parenting that most likely were not being utilized in this situation (assumption on my part)

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

I respectfully disagree. We cannot possibly care about each and every rape, murder, theft, robbery and kidnapping that happens every day. We can only care about a hand full of things at a time and we care about things that interest us. Different crimes capture our attention at different times for different reasons. I see people that refuse to "jump on the bandwagon" and care about something just because a large group of others do. I find this ridiculous. Rosa Parks and other civil rights icons that were caught up in an event that captured peoples attention and changed enough attitudes to create a tipping point come to mind. If Facebook was around when Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus I would see posts like, "one person won't follow the rules and now we should change how we do things?" Or, "hundreds of people don't want to sit at the back of the bus, what makes her so special?"

Agree. I'm not going to cry every time something horrible happens. Instead, i take care of me and mine. I extend that out to friends and coworkers also. but I'm not going to get broken up because I see something terrible on the news.

Can you imagine someone getting distraut every time they hear something horrible happening to someone else? They'd never get out of bed!

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I understand divorce and the effects on children but tons of kids go through it every day and adjust just fine...it all comes down to parenting...as I said in my initial statement.

Love your kids, support your kids, be there for your kids (divorced or not)

Raise them to be strong and independent

Make sure they know they can come to you and turn to you when they are feeling bad.

Simple rules of parenting that most likely were not being utilized in this situation (assumption on my part)

That's how it should be, but there are a lot of parents out there that don't hold those values. Even worse some use their kids against each other during and after a divorce.

**frank13** · 10-15-2012, 12:13 PM

its f ed up no matter wut way u look at it but i would guess she had some other under line issues mental issues because most kids don't kill them self's for getting "bullied" i think the focus should be on getting kids help with there mental issues but the media likes to focus on bulling because people relate to it so it sells news papers if this didnt happen to her there may be a good chance that something else that she found as upsetting in her life may have brought out the same outcome and thats the real problem kids thinking suicide is the answer

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 12:18 PM

I'm tired of you guys all feeling sorry for her.

By the time I finish typing this hundreds of children died from starvation, disease, and malnutrition yet the world mourns a 15 year old whore.

She unleashed this entire array of events on herself. She could've resolved this incident in a matter of seconds by avoiding social media websites and avoiding being a mindless whore, yet she chose not to. A life is a life, each individual is control of their life and no one is obligated to special treatment because of the circumstances of idiotic actions that lead to one's death.

She brought this upon herself because of the poor decisions SHE made, leading to the aftermath of HER decision to kill herself.

Millions of people get bullied, millions of people tell others to kill themselves. These millions aren't mindless attention whores who expect sympathy regardless of their actions.

The world is a cold, cold, place and that will never change. It's the survival of the fittest and she failed.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-15-2012, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

This is what makes both crime in that messed up image a disgrace. Just children , victims in one way or another. One of a disgusting scumbag predator .....the other of herself. She was really just a child , seeking acceotance , doing something online she probably felt would give her some , only to have it used against her and be victimized. whatever she was or wasnt when a 15 yr old takes their own life - it is a tragedy.
Im a parent , I hope to god my children can talk to me if they ever feel the way she felt. Fvck I cant even imagine ....

i hear you bro, i was thinking about my 11yr old daughter as i was waching this vidio and i couldent help but start to cry...this could happen to anyones kid, infact it probably happens every day...its every parents worst nightmare and it scares me to death...God bless you Amanda, rest in peace...

**frank13** · 10-15-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of you guys all feeling sorry for her.

By the time I finish typing this hundreds of children died from starvation, disease, and malnutrition yet the world mourns a 15 year old whore.

She unleashed this entire array of events on herself. She could've resolved this incident in a matter of seconds by avoiding social media websites and avoiding being a mindless whore, yet she chose not to. A life is a life, each individual is control of their life and no one is obligated to special treatment because of the circumstances of idiotic actions that lead to one's death.

She brought this upon herself because of the poor decisions SHE made, leading to the aftermath of HER decision to kill herself.

Millions of people get bullied, millions of people tell others to kill themselves. These millions aren't mindless attention whores who expect sympathy regardless of their actions.

The world is a cold, cold, place and that will never change. It's the survival of the fittest and she failed.

you are close to her in age so u judge her as a peer but when u get a little older u see how kids don't take time to think and then u understand

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of you guys all feeling sorry for her.

By the time I finish typing this hundreds of children died from starvation, disease, and malnutrition yet the world mourns a 15 year old whore.

She unleashed this entire array of events on herself. She could've resolved this incident in a matter of seconds by avoiding social media websites and avoiding being a mindless whore, yet she chose not to. A life is a life, each individual is control of their life and no one is obligated to special treatment because of the circumstances of idiotic actions that lead to one's death.

She brought this upon herself because of the poor decisions SHE made, leading to the aftermath of HER decision to kill herself.

Millions of people get bullied, millions of people tell others to kill themselves. These millions aren't mindless attention whores who expect sympathy regardless of their actions.

The world is a cold, cold, place and that will never change. It's the survival of the fittest and she failed.

Your attitudes might change as hardship hits you (although I hope it never does). Despite you feeling like you are on top of the food chain now, you might end up an a desperate state at some point in your life. If you do, I hope people will care, and will try to help rather than saying you are weak and undeserving of sympathy. People are big on "survival of the fittest" when they think they are the fittest...but most of us get knocked down a few times during this long journey. Sorry that I assume you are young, please correct me if I am wrong.

I think maybe you missed my post that addresses your previous "why do people care about this one girl when the whole world is a mess" point. There are reasons that groups of people care about certain things at certain times.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of you guys all feeling sorry for her.

By the time I finish typing this hundreds of children died from starvation, disease, and malnutrition yet the world mourns a 15 year old whore.

She unleashed this entire array of events on herself. She could've resolved this incident in a matter of seconds by avoiding social media websites and avoiding being a mindless whore, yet she chose not to. A life is a life, each individual is control of their life and no one is obligated to special treatment because of the circumstances of idiotic actions that lead to one's death.

She brought this upon herself because of the poor decisions SHE made, leading to the aftermath of HER decision to kill herself.

Millions of people get bullied, millions of people tell others to kill themselves. These millions aren't mindless attention whores who expect sympathy regardless of their actions.

The world is a cold, cold, place and that will never change. It's the survival of the fittest and she failed.

Originally Posted by Shsm

One more. Sorry guys. I too believe the parenting should be blamed.

I understand your point on how we focus on a single individual when there are thousands in a similar situation, yet we mourn nothing for them.

But based on your poster saying she masturbated to groups of men on webcam during her freetime, AND your referring to her as a whore twice, it seems you have an opinion of her based on information I do not have. Earlier, I asked you if you had any information to support your position. You said it wasn't your job to look it up. I tried and found nothing for ten minutes.

So now I'm a little confused. You have strong negative feelings for this young lady, and I would like to know why? Obviously you know something the rest of us (me) do not. Please enlighten me.

Thanks!

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I understand your point on how we focus on a single individual when there are thousands in a similar situation, yet we mourn nothing for them.

But based on your poster saying she masturbated to groups of men on webcam during her freetime, AND your referring to her as a whore twice, it seems you have an opinion of her based on information I do not have. Earlier, I asked you if you had any information to support your position. You said it wasn't your job to look it up. I tried and found nothing for ten minutes.

So now I'm a little confused. You have strong negative feelings for this young lady, and I would like to know why? Obviously you know something the rest of us (me) do not. Please enlighten me.

Thanks!

I didn't create either poster. Do some more detective work and obtain whom the creator is, and ask him. She used a video chat website with friends all throughout seventh grade to meet new people. It took a year afterwards for her someone to blackmail her threatening to send topless pictures of Todd to others if she did not give them a "show".

Surely you don't think after the attention she was given after flashing her breasts this was a one time occurrence?

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I didn't create either poster. Do some more detective work and obtain whom the creator is, and ask him. She used a video chat website with friends all throughout seventh grade to meet new people. It took a year afterwards for her someone to blackmail her threatening to send topless pictures of Todd to others if she did not give them a "show".

Surely you don't think after the attention she was given after flashing her breasts this was a one time occurrence?

No, i doubt this would be a one time occurance.

But YOU are the one calling her a whore, so I'm asking you, besides that poster, which seems real thin, why you would call her a whore twice?

I ask because it seems fairly harsh. You must have other information the rest of us don't know anything about? Or is your opinion formed solely on this one poster?

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 01:38 PM

“Hope is the last thing a person does before they are defeated.”
― Henry Rollins

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

No, i doubt this would be a one time occurance.

But YOU are the one calling her a whore, so I'm asking you, besides that poster, which seems real thin, why you would call her a whore twice?

I ask because it seems fairly harsh. You must have other information the rest of us don't know anything about? Or is your opinion formed solely on this one poster?

She unveiled herself via video chat to an anonymity of users God knows how many times. She slept with a boy whom she knew was involved in a relationship with another girl. What is she to you, a godsend?

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-15-2012, 01:52 PM

So easy to see the speck of dirt in someone elses eye ....

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

She unveiled herself via video chat to an anonymity of users God knows how many times. She slept with a boy whom she knew was involved in a relationship with another girl. What is she to you, a godsend?

OK. No, she is not a god send. I was asking you how you knew she was a whore. This means were you just taking it on faith that she was a whore based on the tiny bit of information in the video and the poster you posted, or if you had other information.

I've learned over the years to not jump to conclusions. Yes, it seems doubtful she bared her breasts only a single time. Yes, she slept with a boy that was in a relationship with another girl.

In my mind, this is not the definition of a whore.

What she did (baring her self, sleeping with another boy that was with another), is not that uncommon, and honestly, not very surprising. In fact, many teanagers have slept with others in a relationship, or have flashed themselves. does this make all of them a whore?

I would say no, that does not qualify her (them) as a whore.

Since you are reluctant to share any other information about how you formed your opinion, I'm going to say that you do not have any other information, else you would produce it.

Am i right?

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

She unveiled herself via video chat to an anonymity of users God knows how many times. She slept with a boy whom she knew was involved in a relationship with another girl. What is she to you, a godsend?

These are stupid kid mistakes. She isn't a horrible person for making them. The people that exploited and then pummeled her are much worse. It isn't ok for them to do that, even in your "survival of the fittest" theory.

Blaming the victim while doing nothing about the problem is idiotic. Next time someone keys your car I will say, "idiot, you shouldn't have parked it there." Next time someone snatches your girlfriend's purse I am going to say, "chicks get what they deserve, they are small and weak, she should have not left the house without a male companion."

Next time you demand fairness, remember that life isn't fair and only the weak have bad things happen to them. The strong take what they deserve and should not be punished.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

She unveiled herself via video chat to an anonymity of users God knows how many times. She slept with a boy whom she knew was involved in a relationship with another girl. What is she to you, a godsend?

Dude, at this point you're arguing why no one should care that a little girl committed suicide. I know that might not have been your original intent, but that's pretty much what it's become. I'm not trying to be a dick but you sound like a douchebag. I understand what you're saying to an extent, but I think you're arguing a fcked up point. Just because a kid makes mistakes doesn't mean that the kid is now worthless. I'm sure you did a whole bunch of dumb shit when you were younger, I know I did. I personally don't grieve over everything that's in the news, but I think it is fcked up that a kid gets so low in life that suicide is the only option. I'm sure if this was your cousin, niece, sister or daughter you would be singing a different tune.

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 02:24 PM

I'm tired of arguing over this bullshit.

There is so much ****ed up stuff that goes on in the world every day. If you let something like a random girl's suicide get you down, you're going to be depressed for the rest of your life.

This isn't a nice world. No one besides your friends and family would give a shit if you were beheaded on live TV. If you can't handle it then you will drown in it.

Both of you are twice my age yet I'm the only one speaking on a rational level. Get the **** out and reevaluate your life and set your priorities.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:27 PM

You mad bro?

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-15-2012, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of arguing over this bullshit.

There is so much ****ed up stuff that goes on in the world every day. If you let something like a random girl's suicide get you down, you're going to be depressed for the rest of your life.

This isn't a nice world. No one besides your friends and family would give a shit if you were beheaded on live TV. If you can't handle it then you will drown in it.

Both of you are twice my age yet I'm the only one speaking on a rational level.

You sound alot like the generation that believes its totally accptable to brutalize , bully and humilate others your age via social media. Scary.

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of arguing over this bullshit.

There is so much ****ed up stuff that goes on in the world every day. If you let something like a random girl's suicide get you down, you're going to be depressed for the rest of your life.

This isn't a nice world. No one besides your friends and family would give a shit if you were beheaded on live TV. If you can't handle it then you will drown in it.

Both of you are twice my age yet I'm the only one speaking on a rational level. Get the **** out and reevaluate your life and set your priorities.

How can you say no one will care? Your whole point up till now is that you are mad that TOO MANY people care about this specific case.

I don't think anyone here is feeling down because of this so much as surprised that your lack of empathy is so disturbing.

Not sure who "both of you" is referring to, but the fact that you think you are the rational one does, indeed, validate my thought that you are half my age.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I'm tired of arguing over this bullshit.

There is so much ****ed up stuff that goes on in the world every day. If you let something like a random girl's suicide get you down, you're going to be depressed for the rest of your life.

This isn't a nice world. No one besides your friends and family would give a shit if you were beheaded on live TV. If you can't handle it then you will drown in it.

Both of you are twice my age yet I'm the only one speaking on a rational level. Get the **** out and reevaluate your life and set your priorities.

hmmm.....

not the reaction out of you I hoped. Your anger is a defense mechanism. You do know that, right?

What I'm trying to lead you to, is that your reaction (calling her a whore), and the available information of what she did, are out of balance.

(btw, just to give you some perspective. I recently came back from Afghanistan where people blowing themselves up is not uncommon.)

So now I'm curious about your unbalanced reaction to this situation.

(let me give you some more perspective. I'm a biker and go to biker events. Chics flash their boobs all the time and I think nothing of it)

So if you were to go to mardi gras, and a girl flashes her boobs at you, does that make her a whore?

And why would her being with another guy that had a girlfriend make her a whore? After all, it was the other guy that was doing the cheating, right? Shouldn't we focus on his infidility as he was bigger offender? why are we not throwing punches at him and calling him a whore?

Guys fvck around all the time, and we call them "studs" yet when a girl does it she's a whore???

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

How can you say no one will care? Your whole point up till now is that you are mad that TOO MANY people care about this specific case.

I don't think anyone here is feeling down because of this so much as surprised that your lack of empathy is so disturbing.

Not sure who "both of you" is referring to, but the fact that you think you are the rational one does, indeed, validate my thought that you are half my age.

Exactly. You need to get over it.

What's disturbing is you actually find time in your day to full expressively mourn for her, yet you have no correlation to her other than reading a thread on a Steroid website. Is your life honestly that lackluster?

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

hmmm.....

not the reaction out of you I hoped. Your anger is a defense mechanism. You do know that, right?

What I'm trying to lead you to, is that your reaction (calling her a whore), and the available information of what she did, are out of balance.

(btw, just to give you some perspective. I recently came back from Afghanistan where people blowing themselves up is not uncommon.)

So now I'm curious about your unbalanced reaction to this situation.

(let me give you some more perspective. I'm a biker and go to biker events. Chics flash their boobs all the time and I think nothing of it)

So if you were to go to mardi gras, and a girl flashes her boobs at you, does that make her a whore?

And why would her being with another guy that had a girlfriend make her a whore? After all, it was the other guy that was doing the cheating, right? Shouldn't we focus on his infidility as he was bigger offender? why are we not throwing punches at him and calling him a whore?

Guys fvck around all the time, and we call them "studs" yet when a girl does it she's a whore???

I know you recently came back from Afghanistan, which is why I somewhat like and respect you.

My perception of a whore, male or female, is someone who uses their sexuality for attention. They crave attention just to feel good about themselves. They have no self respect and use their body as a tool. Please bring up one point that isn't atrocious as to why that girl doesn't fit this criteria.

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 02:47 PM

When you're young dumb and full of cum its hard to care about the suffering of other human beings because you've only had hair on your dik a few years and haven't been through enough to relate. Its only after you have had some trials bring you to your knees that you start to really understand what other people experience in this world.

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 02:57 PM

Pretty disheartening comments...

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I know you recently came back from Afghanistan, which is why I somewhat like and respect you.

My perception of a whore, male or female, is someone who uses their sexuality for attention. They crave attention just to feel good about themselves. They have no self respect and use their body as a tool. Please bring up one point that isn't atrocious as to why that girl doesn't fit this criteria.

OK. so my definition of a whore is a bit more exxagerated than yours. you are using the term more loosely.

I'm still not sure why you are so harsh. we are talking about a very young girl here. wasn't she in jr. high when she did the flashing? IMO she was exploring her sexuality, albeit not in a way I would prefer, and very naively since anything you put on the web is obviously out there forever. But you don't allow young girls to expplore their sexuality?

But let's look at what you just said. Not trying to make you feel like shit, but i'm hoping I can help you see some things maybe you haven't looked at too closely.

1) uses their sexuality for attention. I think everyone here is guilty of this. Body building to a certain extent is very sexual, in that it attracts attention from the opposite sex. And it garnishes much attention.

2) they crave attention just to feel good about themselves. Again, we all crave attention so that we can feel good about ourselves. In fact, we more than crave it. We need it. Babies denied attention early on turn into sociopaths. It's well documented. So one of the basic needs for humans is atttention. And yes, I too very much crave attention!

3) they have no self respect - this is a leap. We have no clue how much self respect she had for herself. Agree, at the end, it was probably low. I can only imagine the nightmare she had to endure, having been bullied myself. And not nearly on the scale she had to go through. Now back to this "no self respect" criterion to be a whore. I disagree. there are many in the adult industry, and friends i have known, that are proud of what they have accomplished. Granted, I couldn't do what they do, but we are all different. So if doing adult things in front of a camera turns them on, then who am i to deny them this? And who is to say they must have no self respect to do what they do?

4) they use their body as a tool. We all do mate! From the construction worker using his body to dig ditches, to the sexual surrogate that uses her body to help you overcome your own short comings and feelings of inadequacy, we ALL use our bodies as a tool. Our brain commands, and our body obeys.

So based on your definition, are we not ALL whores?

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 03:05 PM

Yes, you've made a solid point. We are all whores in a sense, using our bodies as a tool to attract the opposite sex, regardless of whatever excuse you can come up with as to why else we go to the gym.

I agree with Austinite, although I think he is way too congenial. Taking stabs at each other isn't going to accomplish anything and I enjoy being a part of this forum. You guys have taught me more in the last couple of months than I ever thought imaginable, resulting in me postponing the use of steroids until I'm at least 23

I do not wish to be banned, which is why this is my last reply this thread shall receive.

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 03:06 PM

**Lunk1** · 10-15-2012, 03:09 PM

I'm a whore!!!!

**Lunk1** · 10-15-2012, 03:14 PM

Nothing wrong with 2 or more ppl having a nice disagrrement on different points of opinion. If we can obstain from name calling and mud slinging tendency's then these debates can be a lesson for all of us.

I am glad the 2 generations have had the chance to debate this subject and I think their opinions are reflective of age and experience. At the end of the day it gives us a better chance to understnd the mindset of youth and vigor vs age and maturity!

I say carry on fellas if ya like but please play nice

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

Exactly. You need to get over it.

What's disturbing is you actually find time in your day to full expressively mourn for her, yet you have no correlation to her other than reading a thread on a Steroid website. Is your life honestly that lackluster?

I don't think you quite understand where I am coming from.

I don't need to get over it, because I was not worked up about it. I thought it was sad, like any other news story that pops up. I have not taken a single minute out of my day to mourn her. I did not simply read about this on a steroid site, I have read a few stories about it before it popped up here.

My responses on this thread have very little to do with this girl and her situation...they are mostly trying to understand your story and why you have decided that this girl (or anyone that has had tragedy befall them) pops up so high on your list of people that deserve scorn. More importantly, why do you feel the need to spew venom on anyone that does care?

My life is lackluster? I know what I am doing at this moment...goofing off while waiting for files to copy. Typing between taking phone calls from clients. Occasionally checking in while running a business. Your attempt to paint me as a troll living in my mother's basement is incorrect. Your attempt to make anyone that disagrees with you look like the stupid one is not working. Your arguments lack logic and your examples contradict themselves.

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I know you recently came back from Afghanistan, which is why I somewhat like and respect you.

My perception of a whore, male or female, is someone who uses their sexuality for attention. They crave attention just to feel good about themselves. They have no self respect and use their body as a tool. Please bring up one point that isn't atrocious as to why that girl doesn't fit this criteria.

Here is where your way of looking at it might be different: the girl was a child and children make stupid mistakes. Nobody stays the person they were at 13 or 14 years old. People develop. People change. It is easier for us old guys to see that because we look back at how we were at that age and how much people change. When I was 16 and 17 I was violent, drinking heavily and driving while drunk constantly. I made other stupid decisions. I was a moron, but I grew up. People deserve to be given the chance to redeem themselves. Kids deserve love, support and guidance - from their families and society as a whole.

**Gaspari1255** · 10-15-2012, 04:04 PM

At the end of the day, a parent lost their child. This is going to be sad no matter the circumstances.

**Hunter** · 10-15-2012, 05:16 PM

A parent should never have to bury a child. She made some mistakes but for anyone to go to such extremes to bully and humiliate her is awful. I feel for her parents and hope they are able to heal.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

Yes, you've made a solid point. We are all whores in a sense, using our bodies as a tool to attract the opposite sex, regardless of whatever excuse you can come up with as to why else we go to the gym.

I agree with Austinite, although I think he is way too congenial. Taking stabs at each other isn't going to accomplish anything and I enjoy being a part of this forum. You guys have taught me more in the last couple of months than I ever thought imaginable, resulting in me postponing the use of steroids until I'm at least 23

I do not wish to be banned, which is why this is my last reply this thread shall receive.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to bait you. But I wont' agree she is a whore. She sounds like a confused child, exploring her sexuality, and things went horribly wrong.

Peace!

---Roman

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 05:34 PM

**JD250** · 10-15-2012, 10:05 PM

Jesus H!!!! SHSM....WTF is wrong with you? You say we don't care about all the terrible things that happen in this world then in the same hypocritical breath you blather total unadulterated bullshit about how this girl is a whore and how she doesn't matter............SHUT THE FVCK UP!!!!!! She is a baby, a child, period!!!!!!! Are you saying it's OK to sexually abuse and bully a child who doesn't know any better???? At what age do you feel it's OK to start bullying and sexually abuse little girls???? That is exactly what your saying!!!! You better stick to bullshitting your school buddies on Facebook cause nobody here is buying that crap!!