Troubled Teenager Tells Her Story via Cards then Kills Herself

**austinite** · 10-14-2012, 11:05 PM

She hung herself and died last Wednesday.

Pretty depressing...

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-14-2012, 11:24 PM

If theres any young people out there who are going through this I want you to know there is relief from bullying.

Fight back.

Looking back I never regretted the instances I fought back. If you are at the point of considering hurting yourself, its time to make a stand. Now how you make that stand, whether its just to tell someone off or escalate it further is up to you. If it is a group of them coming after you, my advice is to pick the smallest / ugliest / least liked of the pack to go after. You don't have to whoop someone with a 100 lbs on you's ass to make a statement you won't be messed with anymore.

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-15-2012, 01:29 AM

I just find it strange that such a pretty girl would get bullied.

What I don't get is bullying was rampant when I was a kid and probably it was before any of us could remember (even TR), how come now all of a sudden kids are just offing themselves from it? When I was a kid, it basically forced kids to be consumed by their interests. Whether it be lifting weights, playing guitar, computing or anything, it basically created a refuge to them where they can escape and develop who they are.

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 01:35 AM

Her story is pretty sad. I am seeing some backlash from a few people I know on Facebook, which surprises me.

For me it is simple. She made a couple of stupid mistakes that are common these days (unfortunately), but they were the silly errors in judgement that any teen can make. She did not deserve to be driven to that level of desperation and it takes a sh*tty human being (or group of them) to push a person that hard.

I try to not get caught up in the bullying bandwagon, but this is not a big ideal or cause...this a small girl that just needed some people around her to be decent.

Sad.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:01 AM

It's so fvcked up you hear about these too often nowadays. I feel like stuff like this skyrocketed within the last few years. At first glance you would think the kids just need to toughen up (at least I've felt that way). Bullying is nothing new but how kids are dealing with it is just wrong in my opinion.

But then when you really consider how different things are with technology, if someone is a piece of shit to you, now they can be a piece of shit to you 24/7 and the harassment can come in many different forms. Giving the chance to escape and get away minimal.

I'm a strong believer of standing up to a bully. Even if you get your ass kicked 8/10 times if you punch someone in the face for being a dick, even if he kicks your ass after, he'll more than likely leave you alone. People need to stand up for themselves and fight back, no one should be a victim. I think with a basic cycle of aas they will have the confidence in themselves to do something about it!

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-15-2012, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by red_hulk

It's so fvcked up you hear about these too often nowadays. I feel like stuff like this skyrocketed within the last few years. At first glance you would think the kids just need to toughen up (at least I've felt that way). Bullying is nothing new but how kids are dealing with it is just wrong in my opinion.

But then when you really consider how different things are with technology, if someone is a piece of shit to you, now they can be a piece of shit to you 24/7 and the harassment can come in many different forms. Giving the chance to escape and get away minimal.

I'm a strong believer of standing up to a bully. Even if you get your ass kicked 8/10 times if you punch someone in the face for being a dick, even if he kicks your ass after, he'll more than likely leave you alone. People need to stand up for themselves and fight back, no one should be a victim. I think with a basic cycle of aas they will have the confidence in themselves to do something about it!

The thing is though you can't really stand up to a bully because it's never 1 bully. It's always a whole group of them and they always single out the most helpless. You can go after the weakest bully, but you'll never get a shot in before the other guys beat the shit out of you.

At my high school reunion, I kind of made peace with the kid I picked on the most. Really the truth is it wasn't that I was mad at him or because everybody else was picking on him that I picked on him. I really was bored and got some sick enjoyment out of tormenting the kid. I mean how much does saying "I'm sorry" make up for throwing a pumpkin from a moving car at a kid riding a bicycle so that he fell off the bike? That was the one that stood out in my head the most.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:19 AM

Hahahahaha you were a dick!! I did stupid shit in high school too that I wish I hadn't but I've made peace with most of the people whom I had fun at their expense.

What I'm saying is that if you let people know that you won't take being a victim lying down then they are much less likely to mess with you. No one wants to pick on someone who is going to fight back, unless you have an actual problem with the person. But logically you would move onto someone who wouldn't stand up for themselves.

For instance "should I say something to Johnny today and risk getting punched in the face? Or should say something to billy today, have a laugh and go about my day?"

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:21 AM

And about how it's never 1 bully comment, if it were me and I was getting tourmented by a group of people, fact is they won't all be together all the time. I would literally wait and pick them off one by one alone. The only thing is you have to beat them bad enough to make them not want to fck with you anymore or try to get revenge.

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-15-2012, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by red_hulk

And about how it's never 1 bully comment, if it were me and I was getting tourmented by a group of people, fact is they won't all be together all the time. I would literally wait and pick them off one by one alone. The only thing is you have to beat them bad enough to make them not want to fck with you anymore or try to get revenge.

But even if you beat them individually, which odds are you probably wont because they prey on those weaker than them, the next day they'll just reassemble their group and give you a beating you'll never forget.

But as i said earlier, this torture affords these kids with the time on their hands that other kids spend partying and socializing. They instead can pursue their interests.

**MuscleInk** · 10-15-2012, 02:38 AM

This is a terrible and tragic story that ended too soon for someone with so much to live for. No matter your age, we've all heard, been a part of, or a spectator to this kind of abusive and inhumane behavior. I don't think it's any more prevalent now than when we were kids but its clearly more "viral" now with the Internet, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, blogging, etc. and unfortunately when a seemingly harmless prank or juvenile bullying goes viral, the personal, psycho-social, and emotional damage is catastrophic.

Despite being a terrible and tragic loss, hopefully this video will be serve as a message to others about the real impact of torment and bullying.

It's garbage like this (what those kids did to Amanda) that worries me about raising my own children. You can teach your own right from wrong but you can't control the behaviors of other children who will have a greater influence in your own child's lives.

Rest in peace Amanda.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:41 AM

I know what you mean man, but it goes both ways, if you give a few people the beating of their life they will not look to fvck with you. I also know what you mean when you say it won't happen cause they pick on people weaker than them, which is why I think that they all just aas is the answer. Jk. But there is strength in numbers, they just need to toughen up enough to let others know that they will not be a victim.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

It's garbage like this (what those kids did to Amanda) that worries me about raising my own children. You can teach your own right from wrong but you can't control the behaviors of other children who will have a greater influence in your own child's lives.

Rest in peace Amanda.

So true man. I got a little sister, she's about 13 or so, and I strongly encourage her to always stand up for herself. I set her up with self defense classes with a buddy of mine, the whole nine. But she has problems with other kids every now and then. Nothing like crazy bullying, but if that were the case I would have no problem getting involved. I would beat the kid and the shitty parents that produced it. I also am well aware that this may not be the right answer, but it's how I see things

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-15-2012, 02:48 AM

Red, the other problem in schools is the social hierarchy. As geeky as you may be, you'll turn on the even geekier kid at first chance. Because first and foremost that group of bullies are cooler than you and you want to be cooler and possibly move up the ladder (or so you think you will).

But as far as Amanda Todd goes, honestly if I were her age and living in her part of Canada, I wouldn't have been picking on her, I'd be trying to date/bone her (or at the very least daydreaming about it). She was hot. That's what I just don't get.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 02:56 AM

You're a 100% right about that. You never realize how much of an asshole you were until you get a little older. And yeah I would do the same haha

**songdog** · 10-15-2012, 03:42 AM

This is a real sad thing.But like stated above it is nothing new.Parents need to be more aware of wat is going on in their kids lifes.

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 06:02 AM

Very sad stuff. Nothing gets to me worse than a young kid ending their life because of bullying. She's a child and made a childish mistake. She had poor self esteem like a majority of girls her age and ended up letting the bullying get to her. What gets to me most is the probably 300 pound low lifes anonymously harassing her and posting her picture repeatedly. If she was my daughter there's no telling what I would do if I found out who were behind it.

Unfortunately, the harsh reality:

**Lunk1** · 10-15-2012, 06:45 AM

This (like soooo) many is a tragic story! The fact is that nearly ALL of these type of situations can be blamed on parenting! Bullying has been around since the dawn of man. It's nothing new. Kids were raised better and not taught to take the easy way out.

Back in my day B.C. this kinda shit was settled in the town park a block from school as soon as the bell rang.

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 06:59 AM

One more. Sorry guys. I too believe the parenting should be blamed.

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 10:50 AM

When I was in school the social heirarchy ladder was brutal. I mean crazy brutal. I was bullied a few times for being small which is why I got into weights as a teen. The most common people bullying me? People at the bottom of the social ladder. There are 3 specific bullies that come to mind that were very tall and lanky. I mean you could put your finger and thumb around their bicep and touch. First bully started a shoving match, roundhouse punch to his face that broke his glasses. He never ever talked to or messed with me again. Second lanky bully, I was sitting in front of him and he spit on my neck. I got up and beat his glasses off his face and kept laying into him. Third bully, wrapped a metal bar in a newspaper and hit me across the head. I waited til he was coming up the stairs below me and drop kicked him in the chest. All three of these bullies (and others stood up to) never ever talked to me or engaged in any bullying behavior with me again.

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

When I was in school the social heirarchy ladder was brutal. I mean crazy brutal. I was bullied a few times for being small which is why I got into weights as a teen. The most common people bullying me? People at the bottom of the social ladder. There are 3 specific bullies that come to mind that were very tall and lanky. I mean you could put your finger and thumb around their bicep and touch. First bully started a shoving match, roundhouse punch to his face that broke his glasses. He never ever talked to or messed with me again. Second lanky bully, I was sitting in front of him and he spit on my neck. I got up and beat his glasses off his face and kept laying into him. Third bully, wrapped a metal bar in a newspaper and hit me across the head. I waited til he was coming up the stairs below me and drop kicked him in the chest. All three of these bullies (and others stood up to) never ever talked to me or engaged in any bullying behavior with me again.

Looks like you turned out just fine. Agree with you, it's a madhouse out there. Really a good reminder that probably a lot of people end up here on this site because of such issues.

Thanks for sharing.

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Looks like you turned out just fine. Agree with you, it's a madhouse out there. Really a good reminder that probably a lot of people end up here on this site because of such issues.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks bro. This guy is a great example of someone to be admired for standing up for himself

**frank13** · 10-15-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper

Thanks bro. This guy is a great example of someone to be admired for standing up for himself

i don't believe him

**pjliftsalot** · 10-15-2012, 11:11 AM

What a sad story. where were her parents during all of this ????

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:14 AM

I was a year younger than anyone else in my class. Additionally, i was small for my age. I was 60lbs in the 6th grade.

Anyways, I was bullied as many of you were too. Had my ass kicked. Humiliated. Taunted. There was a girl that had big older brothers. she kicked my ass. was afraid to hit her back since i knew her older brothers would pound me if i did. I was a laughing stock.

Somehow, I got through it.

But for some reason, no one really gave a shit. Most thought it was funny.

But I still got through it. Somehow.

I didn't kill myself.

I held in my anger, and when I got a little older, first it was martial arts. Then i began to grow.

So I began to look for a little pay back.

Which explains why I was suspended from Highschool several times for fighting.

You know, I really feel badly for this young, fragile girl.

But millions of kids get bullied. I know, I was one of them.

I'm not sure why she was so fragile that she couldn't cope.

She is also from a broken home. Her parents were divorced, and that plays an emotional toll on the children.

AND we only got one narrow view into her problems.

There could have been much more going on.

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I was a year younger than anyone else in my class. Additionally, i was small for my age. I was 60lbs in the 6th grade.

Anyways, I was bullied as many of you were too. Had my ass kicked. Humiliated. Taunted. There was a girl that had big older brothers. she kicked my ass. was afraid to hit her back since i knew her older brothers would pound me if i did. I was a laughing stock.

Somehow, I got through it.

But for some reason, no one really gave a shit. Most thought it was funny.

But I still got through it. Somehow.

I didn't kill myself.

I held in my anger, and when I got a little older, first it was martial arts. Then i began to grow.

So I began to look for a little pay back.

Which explains why I was suspended from Highschool several times for fighting.

You know, I really feel badly for this young, fragile girl.

But millions of kids get bullied. I know, I was one of them.

I'm not sure why she was so fragile that she couldn't cope.

She is also from a broken home. Her parents were divorced, and that plays an emotional toll on the children.

AND we only got one narrow view into her problems.

There could have been much more going on.

Thank you for sharing this, TR.

This girl only became big on the net because she made this video. So many go through what she did and we never hear about them. As much as I hate to see videos like this, hope it brings more awareness.

**Lunk1** · 10-15-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I was a year younger than anyone else in my class. Additionally, i was small for my age. I was 60lbs in the 6th grade.

Anyways, I was bullied as many of you were too. Had my ass kicked. Humiliated. Taunted. There was a girl that had big older brothers. she kicked my ass. was afraid to hit her back since i knew her older brothers would pound me if i did. I was a laughing stock.

Somehow, I got through it.

But for some reason, no one really gave a shit. Most thought it was funny.

But I still got through it. Somehow.

I didn't kill myself.

I held in my anger, and when I got a little older, first it was martial arts. Then i began to grow.

So I began to look for a little pay back.

Which explains why I was suspended from Highschool several times for fighting.

You know, I really feel badly for this young, fragile girl.

But millions of kids get bullied. I know, I was one of them.

I'm not sure why she was so fragile that she couldn't cope.

She is also from a broken home. Her parents were divorced, and that plays an emotional toll on the children.AND we only got one narrow view into her problems.

There could have been much more going on.

Surely TR you are nit suggesting that parents divorcing was in some way even partially responsible for this happening. I mean, thousands of kids grow up perfectly fine and well adjusted even after their parents divorce.

Don't get me wrong I am not advovating divorce. My parents remained married till my fathers passing, my wifes parents will be celebrating their 50th shortly and I will celebrate 21 yrs this spring. I think having a faithful, healthy relationship sends a healthy message to children BUT...in some cases it just is the best for all parties to call it quits.

I am assuming that you had a good upbringing and supportive parents at home during your times when you were bullied???

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Shsm

One more. Sorry guys. I too believe the parenting should be blamed.

mate,

how do we know the allegations against her in this pic are true? do you have any data to support?

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 11:27 AM

Lunk,

I think what TR is saying is that ONE thing doesn't usually cause this. It's more likely a combination of issues surrounding the child. Divorce is not easy on kids, especially if you throw that into the mix of all the other issues they're going through.

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

mate,

how do we know the allegations against her in this pic are true? do you have any data to support?

No I do not, unfortunately. I simply used this picture to advocate that thousands of these events go unnoticed each year. For everyone to form an uprising because of this one girl is ridiculous.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Surely TR you are nit suggesting that parents divorcing was in some way even partially responsible for this happening. I mean, thousands of kids grow up perfectly fine and well adjusted even after their parents divorce.

Don't get me wrong I am not advovating divorce. My parents remained married till my fathers passing, my wifes parents will be celebrating their 50th shortly and I will celebrate 21 yrs this spring. I think having a faithful, healthy relationship sends a healthy message to children BUT...in some cases it just is the best for all parties to call it quits.

I am assuming that you had a good upbringing and supportive parents at home during your times when you were bullied???

Originally Posted by austinite

Lunk,

I think what TR is saying is that ONE thing doesn't usually cause this. It's more likely a combination of issues surrounding the child. Divorce is not easy on kids, especially if you throw that into the mix of all the other issues they're going through.

Many kids often times blame themselves for divorcing parents. Divorce is very traumatic for children. there is seperation anxiety, the feeling that somehow the child failed the parents, feelings of loss of love.......

she came from a broken home, which is traumatic. When you begin to add other problems, it becomes a volitile mix.

**pjliftsalot** · 10-15-2012, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Shsm

No I do not, unfortunately. I simply used this picture to advocate that thousands of these events go unnoticed each year. For everyone to form an uprising because of this one girl is ridiculous.

It is sad that we are desensitized to the victim of such heinous crimes. However that will never change the tragedy of a young teenager so hopeless and confused that suicide is the answer. Especially when a large portion of the reason is due to the cruelty of others. Both are devastating , one lost her life at her own hands. Thats in many ways the ultimate tragedy.

**red_hulk** · 10-15-2012, 11:35 AM

I hate that shit when people play the race card on something like that. I don't believe that one life is more important than another, or that one story should be more prominent than another. To be honest before I had no idea who this girl was.

But that is bullshit. That's exactly it, the drug abusing piece of shit white girls life is more valuable than an upstanding black girls life. Give me a break.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Shsm

No I do not, unfortunately. I simply used this picture to advocate that thousands of these events go unnoticed each year. For everyone to form an uprising because of this one girl is ridiculous.

since it is posted, someone believes it to be true? maybe you should investigate this and let us know what you find? was she a tramp performing sex on webcams? did she knowingly go into sex with other boys that had girlfriends? did she have multiple instead of one stalker?

go sleuth it out Sherlock! =)

**Shsm** · 10-15-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

since it is posted, someone believes it to be true? maybe you should investigate this and let us know what you find? was she a tramp performing sex on webcams? did she knowingly go into sex with other boys that had girlfriends? did she have multiple instead of one stalker?

go sleuth it out Sherlock! =)

It is apparent from her own video she flashed her breasts on a webcam and had sex with a boy whom was in a relationship. I'm not going to take the time to uncover every fact of the story; I'm not her father nor is it my job.

**bp2000** · 10-15-2012, 11:44 AM

Everyone gets bullied in HS. Some more than other's. But it's how you handle it People can't hurt you unless you give them permission too. Even if they hurt your body it is not the totality of who you are. She allowed herself to be bullied and reacted by cutting, drinking, drugs, etc. Not saying it's her fault she got bullied but you have to react in a positive manner when you encounter hardships in life.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by bp2000

Everyone gets bullied in HS. Some more than other's. But it's how you handle it People can't hurt you unless you give them permission too. Even if they hurt your body it is not the totality of who you are. She allowed herself to be bullied and reacted by cutting, drinking, drugs, etc. Not saying it's her fault she got bullied but you have to react in a positive manner when you encounter hardships in life.

Most kids don't have the emotional tools to handle situations as you suggest.

Gettting my ass kicked by a girl early on for me was a really low point in my life. Kids were laughing and pointing at me for several months. Very very diffficult.

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 11:49 AM

It's not how you handle it, how would a child know how to handle anything?

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-15-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

It's not how you handle it, how would a child know how to handle anything?

This is what makes both crime in that messed up image a disgrace. Just children , victims in one way or another. One of a disgusting scumbag predator .....the other of herself. She was really just a child , seeking acceotance , doing something online she probably felt would give her some , only to have it used against her and be victimized. whatever she was or wasnt when a 15 yr old takes their own life - it is a tragedy.
Im a parent , I hope to god my children can talk to me if they ever feel the way she felt. Fvck I cant even imagine ....

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-15-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I'm not sure why she was so fragile that she couldn't cope.

She is also from a broken home. Her parents were divorced, and that plays an emotional toll on the children.

AND we only got one narrow view into her problems.

There could have been much more going on.

Agreed. Who knows why some can take punishment and some can't. We are all different. Who knows what else was going on in this girls life besides the embarrassment she felt, but I hope more people teetering on the brink can find the help they need (counseling or drugs).

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Surely TR you are nit suggesting that parents divorcing was in some way even partially responsible for this happening. I mean, thousands of kids grow up perfectly fine and well adjusted even after their parents divorce.

I used to laugh at that (was it Leno?) joke about how we were raised without seat belts, surrounded by lead paint, etc. and we still survived...but it is a logical fallacy. Of course the people that survived can say they survived, but that doesn't mean everyone did. You are right that tons of kids adapt and are fine after a divorce...and tons don't. Who knows if the relationship she had with her parents were a contributing factor, but I would venture to say that EVERYTHING that was going on in that girls life was a contributing factor.

Originally Posted by Shsm

No I do not, unfortunately. I simply used this picture to advocate that thousands of these events go unnoticed each year. For everyone to form an uprising because of this one girl is ridiculous.

I respectfully disagree. We cannot possibly care about each and every rape, murder, theft, robbery and kidnapping that happens every day. We can only care about a hand full of things at a time and we care about things that interest us. Different crimes capture our attention at different times for different reasons. I see people that refuse to "jump on the bandwagon" and care about something just because a large group of others do. I find this ridiculous. Rosa Parks and other civil rights icons that were caught up in an event that captured peoples attention and changed enough attitudes to create a tipping point come to mind. If Facebook was around when Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus I would see posts like, "one person won't follow the rules and now we should change how we do things?" Or, "hundreds of people don't want to sit at the back of the bus, what makes her so special?"

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

It's not how you handle it, how would a child know how to handle anything?

well, they THINK they can handle anything. Unfortunately, kids this age have huge "blind spots" and can't see problems clearly.

I think that if she clearly communicated with her parent(s) ffrom the beginning, this cyber stalker, then she could have been better prepared.

but then again, i'm second guessing. everything is 20/20 and seems clear in the past.