Troubled Teenager Tells Her Story via Cards then Kills Herself

[Times Roman]

Jesus H!!!! SHSM....WTF is wrong with you? You say we don't care about all the terrible things that happen in this world then in the same hypocritical breath you blather total unadulterated bullshit about how this girl is a whore and how she doesn't matter............SHUT THE FVCK UP!!!!!! She is a baby, a child, period!!!!!!! Are you saying it's OK to sexually abuse and bully a child who doesn't know any better???? At what age do you feel it's OK to start bullying and sexually abuse little girls???? That is exactly what your saying!!!! You better stick to bullshitting your school buddies on Facebook cause nobody here is buying that crap!!

Please let's keep it respectful. SHSM had a difference of opinion, kept his cool, and walked away when he felt he needed to. I don't agree with his opinion, but I also support his right to have a differing opinion than what i subscribe to.

Thanks mate!

---Roman

[JD250]

You're correct TR, although I don't support anyone who believes it's OK to call a child a whore and abuse her because of mistakes, that's more than a difference of opinion, that's bullying and abusive to a child, if he's gonna bite off a chunk of that argument then he should be ready for a harsh response........however, I was disrespectful, I will gladly edit my post or offer an apology for the way I said what I did.

I have raised 2 girls and spend every moment trying to be involved and talk openly and be the father they need, so many kids don't have that, I didn't, that doesn't make them garbage to be kicked to the curb for something beyond their understanding and mostly out of their control.

SHSM......I find all of the posters and stories you presented about suicides to be very sad, regardless of circumstances.

[Honkey_Kong]

Very sad stuff. Nothing gets to me worse than a young kid ending their life because of bullying. She's a child and made a childish mistake. She had poor self esteem like a majority of girls her age and ended up letting the bullying get to her. What gets to me most is the probably 300 pound low lifes anonymously harassing her and posting her picture repeatedly. If she was my daughter there's no telling what I would do if I found out who were behind it.

Unfortunately, the harsh reality:

Unfortunately, you're pretty right about this. It seems people only even give a shit about this whole story because the girl who offed herself was beautiful. That dorky ugly kid in next to her nobody gives two shits about. I'm sure if Amanda was some hideous looking hog of a girl, this thread wouldn't even exist since none of us would care to know who she was. It's rather sad, but that's how the world works.

But, so that just makes her the poster child for anti-bullying. The real sad thing is her death and the deaths of every other bullying victim wont change a thing. We knew bullying was wrong and fvcked up back when we were kids and all of us either bullied, were bullied or both (to some degree at least). After it's all said and done, they'll make kids go through a few assemblies on bullying and then it'll be business as usual. There is a natural hierarchy of social value in schools with the cool kids on top down to the biggest geek on the bottom. That's where the bullying comes from. It's the enforcement of the pecking order and despite everything, it'll never go away.

[Hunter]

Please let's keep it respectful. SHSM had a difference of opinion, kept his cool, and walked away when he felt he needed to. I don't agree with his opinion, but I also support his right to have a differing opinion than what i subscribe to.

Thanks mate!

---Roman

It's not respectful to call a 15 year old girl a whore either. This board keeps talking about being more respectful towards female members and females in general. I'm sure this d-bag calling a 15 year old victim a whore will surely make female members feel welcomed

He walked away cause he couldn't validate his facts and was looking stupid. It had nothing to do with keeping his cool

[gixxerboy1]

It's not respectful to call a 15 year old girl a whore either. This board keeps talking about being more respectful towards female members and females in general. I are sure this d-bag calling a 15 year old victim a whore will surely make female members feel welcomed

He walked away cause he couldn't validate his facts and was looking stupid. It had nothing to do with keeping his cool

I agree with this. I think the whore comment was unfounded, uncalled for and just wrong in many ways.

[lovbyts]

Her story is pretty sad. I am seeing some backlash from a few people I know on Facebook, which surprises me.

For me it is simple. She made a couple of stupid mistakes that are common these days (unfortunately), but they were the silly errors in judgement that any teen can make. She did not deserve to be driven to that level of desperation and it takes a sh*tty human being (or group of them) to push a person that hard.

I try to not get caught up in the bullying bandwagon, but this is not a big ideal or cause...this a small girl that just needed some people around her to be decent.

Sad.

They weren't even really mistakes, just life which others decided to use to bully her over and I'm sure most of us can remember being that age and how our emotions can get the most of us sometimes.

How many of us can look back and remember how we felt at a certain time like it was just SO overwhelming and felt like no one else has ever felt this way be it Good or Bad. Now it's just no big deal and we realize just how out of control our emotions were at times.

Very sad how the whole thing played out and what is worse is there are people on her FB still saying it was her fault, calling her names, saying she was a slut etc. Stupid pathetic kids.

[DSM4Life]

Can anyone find the misspelled word?

[lovbyts]

Yes, you've made a solid point. We are all whores in a sense, using our bodies as a tool to attract the opposite sex, regardless of whatever excuse you can come up with as to why else we go to the gym.

I agree with Austinite, although I think he is way too congenial. Taking stabs at each other isn't going to accomplish anything and I enjoy being a part of this forum. You guys have taught me more in the last couple of months than I ever thought imaginable, resulting in me postponing the use of steroids until I'm at least 23

I do not wish to be banned, which is why this is my last reply this thread shall receive.

Why do I feel the AV is pretty fitting? With the responses to this thread alone I'm not holding my breath for you/him being a LONG term member. Even when I was young and dumb I dont remember ever being that judgmental of others, especially someone I never knew.

Why do you act like you KNOW exactly what this girl did? Did you know her or have first hand knowledge of the situation? I read some of the stories on FB also. Some similar to what you are saying but mostly from other kids who are exaggerating things. Big deal if she flashed someone online or in person once, twice or more. So what if she hooked up with some guy who was going out with someone else. Obviously HE wanted to or it would not have happened. Id bet he was the aggressor and probably told her (like most guys do) he was breaking up with the other girls or some BS story.

Bottom line if you knew her or not you should not be so quick to judge or be disrespectful especially under the circumstances of her death. You might feel different (god forbid) if someday something similar happens to your child. FYI, Dont say it could never happen to you. Like has a funny way of proving you wrong when you tempt fate.

[jimmyinkedup]

i hear you bro, i was thinking about my 11yr old daughter as i was waching this vidio and i couldent help but start to cry...this could happen to anyones kid, infact it probably happens every day...its every parents worst nightmare and it scares me to death...God bless you Amanda, rest in peace...

I hear you buddy. I was right there with you , thinking about my 5 (soon to be 6) yr old girl and my baby boy . Scary man.

[JP-MAN]

It's not respectful to call a 15 year old girl a whore either. This board keeps talking about being more respectful towards female members and females in general. I'm sure this d-bag calling a 15 year old victim a whore will surely make female members feel welcomed

He walked away cause he couldn't validate his facts and was looking stupid. It had nothing to do with keeping his cool

agreed and well said...

[JohnnyVegas]

Here is an interesting read for anyone still interested in this topic. Anonymous has outed the man they say was responsible for stalking her and driving her to suicide: http://jezebel.com/5952080/anonymous...odd-to-suicide

[Standby]

sorry TR i respectfully disagree with you. in your day bullying was a face to face act. today with the cyber world you can not get away from anything. once on person gets bored someone else sees it all and will just step in. with her the first dude probably quit but someone else was like oh i want to see a show and then another and another. in your day youd have the option to punch them in there face. this chick didnt have a clue what was going on who was doing it. i dont agree with her killing herself i think its stupid but i understand

[gixxerboy1]

Here is an interesting read for anyone still interested in this topic. Anonymous has outed the man they say was responsible for stalking her and driving her to suicide: http://jezebel.com/5952080/anonymous...odd-to-suicide

if thats him, the police should be after her for a slew of charges.

[Shsm]

Here is an interesting read for anyone still interested in this topic. Anonymous has outed the man they say was responsible for stalking her and driving her to suicide: http://jezebel.com/5952080/anonymous...odd-to-suicide

I just watched that video and realized she was only 12 when the picture was taken. I'm sorry everyone, I regret what I said about this girl being a whore. She was a child and was taken advantage of and constantly stalked and harassed by some monster on the Internet. I can see how you guys hold strong emotions towards this because of your children. I couldn't imagine if this was my daughter. I would go crazy.

[britt28]

This is such a sad story. I cried watching that video! Stuff like this gets me so angry! Luckily I was never bullied but I'm sure there were kids bullied in my high school as there were the "outcasts". Whether she was 12 or 15 when it happened, it was still wrong but I'm glad you apologized for saying what you did.

[stpete]

I only pray that she is ok.

[austinite]

I only pray that she is ok.

she committed suicide last wednesday.

[Honkey_Kong]

This is such a sad story. I cried watching that video! Stuff like this gets me so angry! Luckily I was never bullied but I'm sure there were kids bullied in my high school as there were the "outcasts". Whether she was 12 or 15 when it happened, it was still wrong but I'm glad you apologized for saying what you did.

Every school has those "outcasts." But everybody at the school has their hands dirty in it. I mean, I bulled kids out of boredom and sport, but I had tons of enablers. Everyone who laughed at the antics I did to humiliate the kids that I picked on was part of it. Even the girls who would be like "that's so mean" and show pity on these kids but yet would continue to associate with the likes of me and others who also made fun of these kids had their hands dirty in all of this.

Shsm was way out of line about the "whore" comments, but I think those were more or less to incite a reaction out of us. I don't think he honestly believes it. Besides, his comment about us only caring because the girl was pretty has quite a bit of truth to it.

Anyways, looking back, I think the biggest problem is there are no heroes at the top who will break the chain. I mean nobody wants to befriend the biggest geek, it'll lower you on the hierarchy and make you a target yourself.

[Firepal]

This happened in my city.. so sad to hear makes me want to go punch sum teenagers in the face

[Times Roman]

I just watched that video and realized she was only 12 when the picture was taken. I'm sorry everyone, I regret what I said about this girl being a whore. She was a child and was taken advantage of and constantly stalked and harassed by some monster on the Internet. I can see how you guys hold strong emotions towards this because of your children. I couldn't imagine if this was my daughter. I would go crazy.

It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I wasn't sure why you felt the way you did earlier. It seems you didn't have all the information.

Thank you sir. You are mature beyond your years!

---Roman

[Flagg]

I just find it strange that such a pretty girl would get bullied.

What I don't get is bullying was rampant when I was a kid and probably it was before any of us could remember (even TR), how come now all of a sudden kids are just offing themselves from it? When I was a kid, it basically forced kids to be consumed by their interests. Whether it be lifting weights, playing guitar, computing or anything, it basically created a refuge to them where they can escape and develop who they are.

Because today we live in a world where corporate punishment in school is not allowed, indeed even shouting at a pupil is frowned upon. Bullying will always occur, only today nothing can be done about bullying because of the paranoid media that is all too pervasive in the West. We also live in a society where the victim is either not taken seriously, believed to be a liar or in worse cases, punished for being a victim.

I was bullied at school quite a bit. That changed when I left, lifting weights and putting on size certainly helps, but kids arent as innocent as people think.

My niece started secondary school this year, and in one of her classes, two boys are bullying her, because she is dyslexic and so cant spell words very well. Shit like that really makes my blood boil.

[Times Roman]

sorry TR i respectfully disagree with you. in your day bullying was a face to face act. today with the cyber world you can not get away from anything. once on person gets bored someone else sees it all and will just step in. with her the first dude probably quit but someone else was like oh i want to see a show and then another and another. in your day youd have the option to punch them in there face. this chick didnt have a clue what was going on who was doing it. i dont agree with her killing herself i think its stupid but i understand

That's cool. I just don't know what part you are disagreeing with. I think once we talk about this, I think you'll see we are actually agreeing. I was bullied when i was a youngster, and know the agony/embarrassment/humiliation of it. I go ballistic when i see others doing it. I raised my kid to be the gentle giant in school, and defend those that cannot defend themselves.

So I can empathize with her, just not to the degree she had to go through.

[Standby]

That's cool. I just don't know what part you are disagreeing with. I think once we talk about this, I think you'll see we are actually agreeing. I was bullied when i was a youngster, and know the agony/embarrassment/humiliation of it. I go ballistic when i see others doing it. I raised my kid to be the gentle giant in school, and defend those that cannot defend themselves.

So I can empathize with her, just not to the degree she had to go through.

ill admit i didnt read all your post just your one about walking away or something and to be honest i read that a while before i posted my reply. i guess i just wanted to state that in your school days it was just kids face to face or egging houses or whatever. now a days its technology and once some stop others think is funny so join it. for her it will never stop.

what i dont get is these kids bullied her because she flashed a camera... well sorry to break these kids hearts but where they live you need to be 18 to go to a strip club so in 3 years these kids will be paying for girls to flash them. i dont get it

[JohnnyVegas]

what i dont get is these kids bullied her because she flashed a camera... well sorry to break these kids hearts but where they live you need to be 18 to go to a strip club so in 3 years these kids will be paying for girls to flash them. i dont get it

It is because kids are d*cks, plain and simple. I am talking about her peers in school. The man who tried to blackmail her using the screen cap of her flashing is an entirely different thing. That is much more evil. Trying to extort a 13 or 14 year old girl into doing a sex show on video cam is illegal and I hope he sees some time in a courtroom for that.

[Times Roman]

It is because kids are d*cks, plain and simple. I am talking about her peers in school. The man who tried to blackmail her using the screen cap of her flashing is an entirely different thing. That is much more evil. Trying to extort a 13 or 14 year old girl into doing a sex show on video cam is illegal and I hope he sees some time in a courtroom for that.

I wouldn't mind a few moments of cordial conversation behind the barn myself......

[Honkey_Kong]

ill admit i didnt read all your post just your one about walking away or something and to be honest i read that a while before i posted my reply. i guess i just wanted to state that in your school days it was just kids face to face or egging houses or whatever. now a days its technology and once some stop others think is funny so join it. for her it will never stop.

what i dont get is these kids bullied her because she flashed a camera... well sorry to break these kids hearts but where they live you need to be 18 to go to a strip club so in 3 years these kids will be paying for girls to flash them. i dont get it

Well you know how people are. She's a prude if she doesn't and she's a whore if she does. No matter what, they had it in their minds to pick on her regardless of what she did.

[Standby]

its fvcked up man i hate hearing this shit i feel bad for her but shit killing herself wasnt the way to do it. i feel bad for all kids that are bullied btw not just this one

[JohnnyVegas]

I wouldn't mind a few moments of cordial conversation behind the barn myself......

...and THEN court.