let me piss people off about guns

[RaginCajun]

You might be right. Looks like RaginCajun is hunting with one. Unless he's joking.

No bud, no joking.

I hunt wild hogs with it.

[RaginCajun]

if a guns a gun is a gun. Why make 100's of different kinds and everyone should be aloud to own any type. Give everyone a .22 then if a guns and guns a gun
and yes its cause they are black. I had this convo before. I think all guns should be bedazzled. Guys wont feel like such bad ass pulling them out trying to scare people

I remember that gun, the bedazzled one!

[likelifting]

Hog hunting = fun. I've only done it twice and didn't get anything. But I got a couple of rounds off. My bud told me to use my S&W 44mag. Fun stuff.

[gixxerboy1]

I own and collect guns. I hunt with a Custom 6.8spc AR15.
I have my CPL .
I have also never committed a crime never been to jail. Grown up in a rather big city .

I think it all has to do in how you were raised. I was raised to respect guns. Treat others how I'd want to be treated. Protect my family ( at all costs )

Your commits about rednecks owning guns is a perfect example media perception.

There are far more gun crimes in the city then in the country where the rednecks live. But you seem to believe the rednecks have the problem with guns. When its quite the opposite . The rednecks are just the ones who are vocal about it because they own their guns legally and committed no crime.

Next you want be able to have a car that does over 70mph because more people die at speeds in excess of 70mph.

Or eat a steak because a baby choked on a steak in another state.

yes because of ridiculous arguments like that is why "rednecks" or the vocals get called out more.
Yes there are more deaths in the city. Completely agree.
There are laws that dont let you drive over 70. there are reasons you can only go 25 on certain streets with a car.
you cant walk into a move theater and stab and kill 20+ people in less then a minute.
You can stab someone from 25+ feet away.
If you look at FACTS. which i know sometimes hurt. You have more of a chance of dieing from a gun if there are legal guns in the house then from getting killed by some criminal with one.

[Bigshotvictoria]

yes because of ridiculous arguments like that is why "rednecks" or the vocals get called out more.
Yes there are more deaths in the city. Completely agree.
There are laws that dont let you drive over 70. there are reasons you can only go 25 on certain streets with a car.
you cant walk into a move theater and stab and kill 20+ people in less then a minute.
You can stab someone from 25+ feet away.
If you look at FACTS. which i know sometimes hurt. You have more of a chance of dieing from a gun if there are legal guns in the house then from getting killed by some criminal with one.

But you can go and buy some diesel and fertilizer and kill a whole lot more than 25 in a lot less than 2 seconds. Lets ban those shall we?

[DB1982]

yes because of ridiculous arguments like that is why "rednecks" or the vocals get called out more.
Yes there are more deaths in the city. Completely agree.
There are laws that dont let you drive over 70. there are reasons you can only go 25 on certain streets with a car.
you cant walk into a move theater and stab and kill 20+ people in less then a minute.
You can stab someone from 25+ feet away.
If you look at FACTS. which i know sometimes hurt. You have more of a chance of dieing from a gun if there are legal guns in the house then from getting killed by some criminal with one.

I understand your debate and the way you see things . But try to put yourself in the shoes of someones who owns guns legally and has never committed a crime. Then your told because of other irresponsible behavior that you'll lose your rights to own some of your guns?


And this goes hand and hand with the car statement. No ones needs a 800hp car but its your right to build/ own one. Even though that powerful of a car or ones similar to it have been involved in tragic accidents . That's doesn't mean all high HP cars should be outlawed.

I respect your opinion and stance on this subject but in turn I also respectfully disagree.

Its kind of a pot calling the kettle black. To see this argument on a steroid forum.
Seeing how most of us use an illegal substance that when used the right way can be perfectly save. But its the irresponsible ones that give this substance a bad rep.

[gixxerboy1]

I understand your debate and the way you see things . But try to put yourself in the shoes of someones who owns guns legally and has never committed a crime. Then your told because of other irresponsible behavior that you'll lose your rights to own some of your guns?


And this goes hand and hand with the car statement. No ones needs a 800hp car but its your right to build/ own one. Even though that powerful of a car or ones similar to it have been involved in tragic accidents . That's doesn't mean all high HP cars should be outlawed.

I respect your opinion and stance on this subject but in turn I also respectfully disagree.

Its kind of a pot calling the kettle black. To see this argument on a steroid forum.
Seeing how most of us use an illegal substance that when used the right way can be perfectly save. But its the irresponsible ones that give this substance a bad rep.

all is good. It was just a fun covo. And personally i dont think guns should be outlawed.

[Times Roman]

you think Ruby Ridge was ugly?

Try taking an entire countries guns away.

There will be a shit storm for sure

[songdog]

i def dont think they should be banned. But i think laws do need to change regarding guns. And in America its a conversation that cant even be had. It's never guns fault no matter what happens.

We dont need more gun laws.Wat we do need is to enforce the ones we have.Every time something happens someone wants a new law made.The problem with this country is.NO ONE wants to be told wat to do.But everyone wants to tell someone else wat to do.This is why we have anti gun people anti abortion people sticking their nose where it dont belong.Hell they cant stop drugs how are they going to stop guns? The big picture is to strip the honest people of their guns.That way the goverment could have more control over us.

[AXx]

I am in no way a "gun nut" but unless and until you actually have a gun pointed directly at you by someone illegally possessing one during the commission of a crime, it's hard to armchair quarterback. Very easy to hypothesize but completely different in real life. Now, once you've actually been shot at in those circumstances your opinion will change even more. I will never be without a concealed carry permit......

Ding ding ding!!!!!!

I agree with Lunk, Odin, and BSV. Of course I do right, cause I'm at dumbass hillbilly goat owning gun toting redneck from Tennessee, lol.

I actually own a shirt that says "Guns don't kill people it's mostly the bullets" <<<< that's true. This will always be up for debate, Gix same goes this time just pm me your address and I'm sending you a bedazzled pee shooter.

Guns are easy to kill people with sure. Mentally unstable people with guns (bad idea) mentally unstable people behind the wheel of cars EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM. I assure you I have worked far more fatalities in wrecks than I have murders or gunshot wounds.

Lets also not forget the fact the this Jovan Belcher fellow is AN EVIL MAN for doing what he did. If he hadn't of had a gun he would have done something else just as evil and horrible. What he did is an evil vile and sadistic act no questions asked.

That's all!!!!!!

[AXx]

the goverments' unwillingness to protect and treat the mentally ill is what causes these types of shootings...

apply that level of judgement in every case that is purported in recent news articles and see if it fits..

woman kills 2 with a knife after being asked to clean the apartment while providing day care to children..

man kills people in movie theatre

man kills wife then self at his place of work..

man kills employer and co workers..

what is the common denominator?? mental illness or access to weapons..

the governments unwillingness to protect us from mentally ill people..

Another winner here.

I like you Spy, lol

[Bigshotvictoria]

Ding ding ding!!!!!!

I agree with Lunk, Odin, and BSV. Of course I do right, cause I'm at dumbass hillbilly goat owning gun toting redneck from Tennessee, lol.

I actually own a shirt that says "Guns don't kill people it's mostly the bullets" <<<< that's true. This will always be up for debate, Gix same goes this time just pm me your address and I'm sending you a bedazzled pee shooter.

Guns are easy to kill people with sure. Mentally unstable people with guns (bad idea) mentally unstable people behind the wheel of cars EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM. I assure you I have worked far more fatalities in wrecks than I have murders or gunshot wounds.

Lets also not forget the fact the this Jovan Belcher fellow is AN EVIL MAN for doing what he did. If he hadn't of had a gun he would have done something else just as evil and horrible. What he did is an evil vile and sadistic act no questions asked.

That's all!!!!!!

I'd like to point out that although I am absolutely defending my right to own a gun (although not in the Canadian Charter of Rights as it is your amendments rights) and am an avid hunter/fisherman/outdoorsman, I am in fact by Canadian standards liberal, by American standards this makes me crazy and evil if you listen to Fox news. I don't consider myself liberal, but some of my beliefs certainly are. I base these beliefs on logic and facts. The tragedies such as Columbine are horrid, but it wasn't the guns that precipitated the event. These kids had tried to make bombs out of propane tanks, they simply failed to ignite. These kids were determined to hurt and kill, and if guns weren't available they clearly would have found alternate and equally devastating means to do so. This goes for Jovan Belcher. The Oklahoma bomber was determined to hurt people, he used a van, fertilizer, and diesel. Guns are not the issue; mental health, drugs (selling and addiction), poor education, poverty, SOCIAL ISSUES are the cause of most tragedies, and removing guns from the equation won't change that. What it will do is make selling guns even more profitable for the criminal world. Thats not liberal thinking, thats basic economics, supply and demand.

[warmouth]

Gixx is a NAZI!!!!! Ha ha. I am going to jumpin on this one after dinner. Looks fun.

[JohnnyVegas]

I don't think we have a gun problem so much as we have societal problems. Poverty plays a big part in our crime issues and our diversity is a blessing and a curse. Other countries with less violence benefit from having a homogenous populace. Similar (or same) backgrounds, history, morals, ethics, religions, traditions and goals.

[JD250]

I made it halfway through the article and then laughed at the incompetence of the author, Gix, you lose credibility when you post political articles that were written by left wing anti constitution nut jobs. Try this..... follow that logic from start to finish and see where you end up. All these liberal fools quote the redneck in the crowd and then badmouth the constitution..... all of them use the same untruthful tactics, it serves to show the intelligent population just how immature and idiotic they really are.

Besides Gix don't you live in an area with draconian gun control laws already? How's that working? Why don't you just enjoy living in your paradise and leave the rest of us alone with our guns and constitution.

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[Soar]

Just clear things up on guns in canada.. They aren't just for shooting fat chicks that get mistaken for "moose" lol

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[DB1982]

--->>405<<--- Home Defense: come and get 'em mother fvcker!!

Nice Kimber pistol

[jimmyinkedup]

2%.
Thats the % of legally registered gun owner that committed a crime in the state of texas.
Over half a million legally registered gun owners - 120 commuted crimes.

Florida has issues over 1.5 concealed carry permits. They have only had to revoke 166 due to crimes committed by those with said permits (note not all of those rimes were even committed using a gun!)

It goes on and own. The owner of a concealed carry permit is 100 times less likely to commit a crime of any kind that the rest of the general population.

What are you going to do ...regulate more strictly - so the people going about it leagally cannot obtain guns, Thats a great idea - then we can end up helpless against the scumbags that are buying the guns smuggled in from china / the middle east / and even to this day russia/ Those are the guns the crimes are being committed with. Stop that you solve thee majority of your problem. Regulate more strictly and then only the criminals will be able to get/have guns- Fvcking great!

[likelifting]

Wasn't there a county somewhere in the US that you HAD to own a gun? And the crime rate was really, really low? Myth?

[frank13]

I actually love guns there fun I shoot all the time and always have but when u live in a city where every "gangsta" in the city has a gun and someone dies everyday and when u can call up a friend and get a gun easier then u can get anything else anything u have to admit there is a big problem with gun laws

[gixxerboy1]

I made it halfway through the article and then laughed at the incompetence of the author, Gix, you lose credibility when you post political articles that were written by left wing anti constitution nut jobs. Try this..... follow that logic from start to finish and see where you end up. All these liberal fools quote the redneck in the crowd and then badmouth the constitution..... all of them use the same untruthful tactics, it serves to show the intelligent population just how immature and idiotic they really are.

Besides Gix don't you live in an area with draconian gun control laws already? How's that working? Why don't you just enjoy living in your paradise and leave the rest of us alone with our guns and constitution.

i know that about the article. Hence the title of the thread. I thought the redneck comment was funny not the truth.
i live in florida. I honestly dont know the gun laws here. I have no interest in guns so never looked into them

[spywizard]

"Rednecks" is that a name for a race of people?? or what?? an attempt to label or belittle someone with different values??

anyway, i say lock up and medicate all the crazies and problem solved..

[Metalject]

The Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting, target shooting, collecting, etc. It has EVERYTHING to do with your right....let me say that again, your RIGHT to simply own and use a firearm.



Um, that's nowhere in the Constitution. The Second Amendment doesn't even contain the words, "18" or "able-bodied." To assume, which is what the article did, that the Founders "expected" this is quite the stretch and gun ownership is dealt with specifically and singularly by the 2nd Amendment. A militia is NOT the military.

IMO, at the end of the day, we have the 2nd amendment afford to us by our Founders in the Constitution, and this is a prime example that it's under direct threat from people who have nothing by an ideological axe to grind which extends WAY beyond the 2nd amendment, to the entire Constitution.

Well said, the entire purpose of the 2nd amendment was to allow people to own guns for personal protection, not only from invaders in their home or anywhere else danger might exist, but from the government itself. The founders were always concerned that the government in time might become tyrannical, so by allowing the people to own guns this allowed them to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. Granted, they could not predict this country becoming as big as it has and as a result it's highly unlikely my few shotguns and hand guns would protect me from an intrusive government at this stage, but that was the point of the 2nd amendment. I really don't think the founders were really all that worried about peoples right to own a gun to hunt. Owning a gun to hunt was simply a necessary part of life in order to live, you know, so you could eat.

[Far from massive]

I think I remember something called the second ammendment. Fortunately none of my guns or ammo are registered and I will be damned if I will ever let the soccer mom driven testicleless libtards take them from me.


PS don't get me started or I will tell you how I really feel ;-)

PS Just saw Odens others post on the second ammedment. I agree this is the purpose of the ammendment to protect us from the occupationalist libtard government, unfortunatly the spirit of the ammendment has been dead for ages as trying to defend yourself from any branch of gov with even an assualt rifle will be fruitless but at least it will give them pause for consideration. Once they strip us of our current guns then all they got to do is go house to house and lockup whoever they choose for whatever law they have rewritten last week.

[amcon]

not sure about ur rant... kinda looses creditabliity with the nonsence in there. but obama is coming after your guns... he is starting with your amo, then specilized guns.

obama gave the at. general the right to declare at will any gun illegal.


and for the record i am a non-gun owner... and pro guns

[Far from massive]

You talking to me amcon?

[gixxerboy1]

^^^ its not my rant. I didnt write it.

[red_hulk]

It's my right as a murican to own guns!

[Far from massive]

It's my right as a murican to own guns!

Yeah but if you are from NY its the right of the police to search you on a whim called furtive behaviour and being black seems to qualify as furtive behaviour...see the slippery slope we are on. Well at least we are getting all those dangerous black marijuana smokers off the street,,,,,,,SAD!!!

[cherrydrpepper]

I am in no way a "gun nut" but unless and until you actually have a gun pointed directly at you by someone illegally possessing one during the commission of a crime, it's hard to armchair quarterback. Very easy to hypothesize but completely different in real life. Now, once you've actually been shot at in those circumstances your opinion will change even more. I will never be without a concealed carry permit......

I told you not to hustle that dude

[cherrydrpepper]

First let me say I'm very pro gun and without writing a novel I'm for every reason under the sun. We could argue about this all day but its easier if I cite someone I look up to:

Suzanna Hupp, (from wikipedia)

On Wednesday, October 16, 1991, Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen. She had left her gun in her car to comply with Texas state law at the time, which prohibited carrying a concealed weapon.[citation needed] When George Hennard drove his truck into the cafeteria and opened fire on the patrons, Hupp instinctively reached into her purse for her weapon, but it was in her vehicle. Her father, Al Gratia, tried to rush Hennard and was shot in the chest. As the gunman reloaded, Hupp escaped through a broken window and believed that her mother, Ursula Gratia, was behind her. Hennard put a gun to her mother's head as she cradled her mortally wounded husband, and pulled the trigger, killing her as well.

Hupp's mother and father were killed along with twenty-one other persons. Hennard also wounded some twenty others. As a survivor of the Luby's massacre, Hupp testified across the country in support of concealed-handgun laws. She said that if there had been a second chance to prevent the slaughter, she would have violated the Texas law and carried the handgun inside her purse into the restaurant.

This is one of the most important videos I have ever come across explaining the 2nd amendment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

[lovbyts]

I hunt with an AK

WHY??? I found an AR-15 works perfectly fine for deer. Yes seriously I got my 1st deer with an AR-15 military issue.

Gee guys, isnt this what I have been saying for over a year now in regards to Obama and guns? Actually one aspect that will effect EVERYONE is 1st they will be removing or restricting access to ammunition. They already started by not allowing the empty brass to be sold to reload anymore to companies but it's now sold below wholesale scrap cost to a foreign country and not the US anymore. Nice...

Agreed with the above. It's all the restictions that are giving the criminals free reign. This is one of my favorite videos.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18919608

[JD250]

i know that about the article. Hence the title of the thread. I thought the redneck comment was funny not the truth.
i live in florida. I honestly dont know the gun laws here. I have no interest in guns so never looked into them

Sorry Gix, I was thinking you were east coast for some reason. It seems like the media has a knack for finding the stupidest person in town to do an interview with or ask an opinion of ...... fvcktard media whores are one of this countries biggest detriments to our freedom. Besides the 2nd amendment protecting us from libtards..... it's what Jesus would do.....

[JD250]

Not sure Jesus would approve of this but it represents my kind of gun control.

[wh1spa]

[lovbyts]

That's out dated. Accidental death by prescribed prescription drugs (not even abused or no prescribed) has overtaken motor vehicle accidents.

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Nice Kimber pistol

thx man.. love it!

[chefjmo]

bob costa. really think he should have kept his opinion to himself. he should stick to what he knows best pro. sports! it's sad when anybody is murdered no matter how they are murdered. it's sad to say but people will always kill people. since cain and able until the end of this world. there's nothing i can do but pray for this fallen world. i will say that i own several guns. some for hunting and some just for sport. i pray that i never have to use a fire arm to protect my family but if i have to i am greatful that i can.

[Shol'va]

It sums things up for extemist gun owners perhaps...I don't see how this has any relevancy to those of us that enjoy hunting and collecting as a hobby!

Are you suggesting that all gun owners are toothless, redneck, hillbillys that live in trailers?

I have never lived in a trailer, I have all my teeth (minus 2 wisdom teeth), I may on occasion qualify as a redneck...but far from a hillbilly as I live North of Missouri

Yeah but you still live south of Canada so that in itself makes you suspect...