Couldnt hold myself

[Gaspaco]

glad your gf was there to keep the peace, sorry to hear the other guys was jerk. Hope your doggy is ok.

jack russle or retriever or whip it can all be on leash and get a good workout... roller blade skate board bike with them on leash.

She loves tennis balls!

Trowing all day long...

[Times Roman]

Normally dogs comes to each other and smell each other.

My dog came to his, smelled, his dog attacks mine and my was trying to protect herself!

I was half meter from them to take them apart and he just kicked her!

Does it sounds right to you??

Maybe I'm a bit older and see potential problems more than others. I would never take my dog in public off a leash.

I would never allow my dog to approach another dog unless a signal from the owner indicating it was OK (did the other dog owner signal it was OK for your dog to approach?). My remaining dog is a shrimp, so for my own dogs safety, I would not let her approach.

Your dog approached, and not the other way around, so technically, you are liable. The other dog owner apparently had control of his dog, and you did not have control of your dog.

Before Kicking, I probably would have jerked back on my dog's leash and issued a stern command, like "NO"

If I were a juror in court, I'd say it was your fault.

Sorry

---Roman

(but the other guy didn't have to be so harsh, but he could easy argue self defense)

[Gaspaco]

Maybe I'm a bit older and see potential problems more than others. I would never take my dog in public off a leash.

I would never allow my dog to approach another dog unless a signal from the owner indicating it was OK (did the other dog owner signal it was OK for your dog to approach?). My remaining dog is a shrimp, so for my own dogs safety, I would not let her approach.

Your dog approached, and not the other way around, so technically, you are liable. The other dog owner apparently had control of his dog, and you did not have control of your dog.

Before Kicking, I probably would have jerked back on my dog's leash and issued a stern command, like "NO"

If I were a juror in court, I'd say it was your fault.

Sorry

---Roman

(but the other guy didn't have to be so harsh, but he could easy argue self defense)

Respect your opinion!

Glad you are not a juror.

[songdog]

All dogs need to be on a leash! And the guy kicking your dog.Well I dont believe he wouldve walked away if it was me.I was rabbit hunting with mine one day.And this guy I know got pissed beacuse I yelled at his younger brothers who were shooting at birds on a wire over my head.He threaten to shoot my dog and raised his in that direction.But didnt pull the trigger beacuse mine was pointed at his head only 5ft away.But in the end the police werent called.And over 20yrs later he didnt remember it.He was drunk

[zaggahamma]

that sucks bro

also glad your gf got you out of there

[Black]

Are you sure? You dont sound like your thinking rationally. One thing i lernt in the army is dont let emontion get in the way of the task.

Maybe the kicking was justified maybe it was not i dont no. People see things diffrently in the heat of the moment. Thats why hindsight is a good thing!!!

Maybe you should have "lernt" the basic English language a little better. Your Army even takes retards, huh?

[Times Roman]

Maybe you should have "lernt" the basic English language a little better. Your Army even takes retards, huh?

Please play nicely!

...no flaming, ok?

---Roman

[austinite]

Please play nicely!

...no flaming, ok?

---Roman

Agree. At least check grammar before you flame someone for spelling. lol.

[bdos]

No need to flame euro its common knowledge around here he's "special" lol

[JohnnyVegas]

Both leashed.

EDIT: I pointed out something that had already been straightened out. Deleted that.

General info not aimed at austinite:

In my state the fault is with the owner that is not in control of their dog. If my dog is on leash and an off leash dog runs up and a fight starts it the the off leash owner that is cited regardless of whose dog bites. Dog fights are inevitable so it is the owner's responsibility to be in control of their dog at all times.

What is unacceptable is the other person kicking someone else's dog. I would have pummeled them for that too. It makes me angry just thinking about it. I have given my dog a tap on the butt to try and get her attention but even tapping other dog would never enter into my mind. Kicking any dog would never happen.

[Times Roman]

EDIT: I pointed out something that had already been straightened out. Deleted that.

General info not aimed at austinite:

In my state the fault is with the owner that is not in control of their dog. If my dog is on leash and an off leash dog runs up and a fight starts it the the off leash owner that is cited regardless of whose dog bites. Dog fights are inevitable so it is the owner's responsibility to be in control of their dog at all times.

What is unacceptable is the other person kicking someone else's dog. I would have pummeled them for that too. It makes me angry just thinking about it. I have given my dog a tap on the butt to try and get her attention but even tapping other dog would never enter into my mind. Kicking any dog would never happen.

I disagree. Two wrongs don't make a right. The first wrong would have been loss of control of the dog. True, kicking the offending dog is harsh. But pummeling the non offending dog owner would have landed you a trip in jail. Plus OP is a big boy and i'm not speaking figuratively. Another clue is OP's girlfriend NOT siding with OP (he over reacted).

Years ago, was at my buddies house. He had a viscous Dalmatian, we were in the back yard, and the dog lunged at my son, who was probably nine at the time. The dog was unprovoked, just being viscous. The dog was maybe 70 lbs. I kicked that bastard so hard in the ribs that he bounced back a couple of feet.

It is unfortunate ANY dog got kicked, but it was really the owner of the unleashed dog who is to blame here.

And there may be more going on to the story than we know. After all, there is a reason why OP's girlfriend is pissed at him. We are only getting one side of the story, and we really had to dig to get this much information from him.

[tigerspawn]

All dogs need to be on a leash! And the guy kicking your dog.this guy I know got pissed beacuse I yelled at his younger brothers who were shooting at birds on a wire over my head.He threaten to shoot my dog and raised his in that direction.

I agree leash laws should always be followed. Even if your dog is friendly there is no guarantee that other dogs or people are. If someone pointed their gun at my dog there would definitely be bloodshed. I don’t care if the guy was drunk. I know that not forgiving is wrong and that it is better to turn the other cheek. I am not saying that I would have shot him but I would have beaten him with his own gun.

[tigerspawn]

Sorry Times wish we could all be level headed like you. Most of the time I am level headed. I have tendency to lose it when people attack or threaten someone who can’t defend themselves.

[tdoe11]

Wow man I commend your control! If that happened to me I would of probably smashed the dudes head very cool of ya

[thehor]

The good thing is that you didnt break the other guy in half. You wouldnt want to get into problems now.

[JohnnyVegas]

I disagree. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It was kind of a typo. I meant that I would have WANTED to pummel them for that. I have never started a fight in my life.

[jjhe]

Just remember that there are dogs out there who should not be off leash like this guys. If he knows his dog bites quickly then he should have had it on a leash. Your dog sounds friendly but you cannot predict the behavior from other dogs. High energy can be too much for a timid dog which will start a fight.

I agree

[Black]

Agree. At least check grammar before you flame someone for spelling. lol.

What are you talking about?

[Times Roman]

Sorry Times wish we could all be level headed like you. Most of the time I am level headed. I have tendency to lose it when people attack or threaten someone who can’t defend themselves.

which is why we have so many cooling their heals in jail.

let's be real clear here.

in the eyes of the law, a dog is "property" and not a family member!

all OP did was yell, which, although extreme, doesn't constitute a felony.

if this is how you react, without thinking, then maybe one shouldn't put themselves in high risk situations, and think things through before hand.

....controlling one's dog by having it on the leash in the first place and none of this would have been an issue.

[tigerspawn]

if this is how you react, without thinking, then maybe one shouldn't put themselves in high risk situations, and think things through before hand.

Times as always you are right.

[Black]

Please play nicely!

...no flaming, ok?

---Roman

Yeah, sometimes my filter breaks. Apologies.

[JAB1]

When I was a kid we had 3 german shephards. They would fight from time to time. Once it got so bad I thought they were going to kill one another. I got between them to break them up. Still have scars on my leg from where one got me, and these were my dogs. Not really their fault as I got in the middle of a dog fight. Very dangerous, best to let them fight it out if unleashed. If you are not ok with your dog fighting on its own I would leash it as its the only safe way to try and pull them apart. I am a dog/animal lover so Im very sensitive as well, but dog fights can get ugly quick, glad your little one is ok Gaspaco

[Times Roman]

When I was a kid we had 3 german shephards. They would fight from time to time. Once it got so bad I thought they were going to kill one another. I got between them to break them up. Still have scars on my leg from where one got me, and these were my dogs. Not really their fault as I got in the middle of a dog fight. Very dangerous, best to let them fight it out if unleashed. If you are not ok with your dog fighting on its own I would leash it as its the only safe way to try and pull them apart. I am a dog/animal lover so Im very sensitive as well, but dog fights can get ugly quick, glad your little one is ok Gaspaco

if your dog is prone to fighting, I'd suggest a muzzle when the risk is present for it to do so.

See, this is the part that bothers me. And not picking on you jab, just making a general comment here...

...dog ownership is a responsibility and more than just simply feeding and taking to the vet every now and then. Your animal is an extension of YOU, and you are liable for anything it does.

When I was young lad, a neighbor a couple of houses down, the lady of the house was a vet's assistant, and had a soft heart for the animals. She had way too many animals for a residential neighborhood, to include ducks (very noisy), raccoons (trouble makers), a friggin horse (for awhile), can you believe that? a friggin horse? And she had these two beautiful great danes. She allowed her 7 year old daughter take both these dogs for a walk around the neighborhood, each weighing in excess (I'm guessing) of 130lbs. Her daughter maybe weighed 60 lbs????

Now here comes little markey on his metal skates, the kind that slips over your shoes, with metal wheels. On a sidewalk they make a clikkety clack noise, ya know? and for some reason, that noise bothered both dogs. Now, 260+ pounds of pure muscle dogs is more than any 60 pound little girl can handle, and next thing you know, little markey is attacked by both dogs, and they have him by the neck....

...Now the owner of the dogs said "I had no idea that was going to happen"

...the way the law looked at it, she was negligent in that a prudent person should have known a 60 pound girl had no way of controlling these two beautiful dogs, and she was found guilty. It didn't matter that the dogs were on the leash. The problem was the owner lost control of the dogs.

So I get a little pissed when I see dogs off a leash, which to me means that the owner has abdicated all responsibility for the actions of his animal. I don't get mad at the animal, I get mad at the owner.

Kicking a dog is a small thing in a situation like this. It all happens split second. Now, sometimes you gotta take the owner out behind the wood pile and knock some sense in him.

...You don't let your dog off the leash in a public environment!

So now you know why this bugs me!!

[JohnnyVegas]

If I were a juror in court, I'd say it was your fault.

In my neck of the woods it is the fault of the dog that is off leash. The owners are responsible for having control over their dogs so it doesn't matter who attacks...it is the fault of the unleashed dog. The owner of the unleashed dog will be cited.

Just pointing out that NV law agrees with you.

I have a rescue bully that we are putting a lot of training into because she is dog aggressive, especially when on leash. We need to have her under control and she wears a muzzle to training when she is near other dogs. Safety first, training second, isolation if needed - we hope not.

[Times Roman]

In my neck of the woods it is the fault of the dog that is off leash. The owners are responsible for having control over their dogs so it doesn't matter who attacks...it is the fault of the unleashed dog. The owner of the unleashed dog will be cited.

Just pointing out that NV law agrees with you.

I have a rescue bully that we are putting a lot of training into because she is dog aggressive, especially when on leash. We need to have her under control and she wears a muzzle to training when she is near other dogs. Safety first, training second, isolation if needed - we hope not.

much admiration for your rescuing. every animal we've had in the last ??? years has been a rescue project. This means every one of our animals would have been put down if we hadn't of "came to the rescue".

There is no shame in having to muzzle your dog. In fact, I admire an owner that knows the limitations of his animal.

---Roman

[JohnnyVegas]

much admiration for your rescuing. every animal we've had in the last ??? years has been a rescue project. This means every one of our animals would have been put down if we hadn't of "came to the rescue".

There is no shame in having to muzzle your dog. In fact, I admire an owner that knows the limitations of his animal.

---Roman

She has bitten me in the foot and lower leg a couple of times. She gets crazy if a little dog gets close and she feels any pull on the leash. Of course, once she pulls forward there is tension on the leash which just sends her into overdrive. It is twice as bad if our little dog also barks at the other dog. It is four times as bad if we are at our building as rather than, say, at a park. It is eight times as bad if the offending dog runs away because ours wants to chase.

So, she seems to be dog aggressive, has a strong prey instinct, leash aggressive, territorial and protective of our other dog. Did I mention we are doing a lot of training?

We also found out after getting her that she has severe skin allergies and requires medication and constant bathing.

We don't care...never giving this girl up.

[austinite]

She has bitten me in the foot and lower leg a couple of times. She gets crazy if a little dog gets close and she feels any pull on the leash. Of course, once she pulls forward there is tension on the leash which just sends her into overdrive. It is twice as bad if our little dog also barks at the other dog. It is four times as bad if we are at our building as rather than, say, at a park. It is eight times as bad if the offending dog runs away because ours wants to chase.

So, she seems to be dog aggressive, has a strong prey instinct, leash aggressive, territorial and protective of our other dog. Did I mention we are doing a lot of training?

We also found out after getting her that she has severe skin allergies and requires medication and constant bathing.

We don't care...never giving this girl up.

Did you bite her back?

[Rwy]

When I was a kid we had 3 german shephards. They would fight from time to time. Once it got so bad I thought they were going to kill one another. I got between them to break them up. Still have scars on my leg from where one got me, and these were my dogs. Not really their fault as I got in the middle of a dog fight. Very dangerous, best to let them fight it out if unleashed. If you are not ok with your dog fighting on its own I would leash it as its the only safe way to try and pull them apart. I am a dog/animal lover so Im very sensitive as well, but dog fights can get ugly quick, glad your little one is ok Gaspaco

Dog fights happen. Especially with working dogs as most are dominant dogs. You never get in the middle.

[Rwy]

She has bitten me in the foot and lower leg a couple of times. She gets crazy if a little dog gets close and she feels any pull on the leash. Of course, once she pulls forward there is tension on the leash which just sends her into overdrive. It is twice as bad if our little dog also barks at the other dog. It is four times as bad if we are at our building as rather than, say, at a park. It is eight times as bad if the offending dog runs away because ours wants to chase.

So, she seems to be dog aggressive, has a strong prey instinct, leash aggressive, territorial and protective of our other dog. Did I mention we are doing a lot of training?

We also found out after getting her that she has severe skin allergies and requires medication and constant bathing.

We don't care...never giving this girl up.

What are you feeding her? Skin allergies have a lot to do with food?

[Black]

What are you talking about?

........crickets.......

[JohnnyVegas]

Did you bite her back?

I wanted to. Even through she wasn't trying and it was just a quick snap it was painful.

Dog fights happen. Especially with working dogs as most are dominant dogs. You never get in the middle.

Since I believe a dog should always be on leash I would definitely be trying to get my dog out of the fight.

What are you feeding her? Skin allergies have a lot to do with food?

Ugh, we have been through a LOT of foods. We are currently on a no-grain, limited ingredient diet. We eventually ran the full allergy test and she doesn't appear to be allergic to foods (although we are still trying to keep it simple). She is allergic to lots of common things like grass, pollen, bugs and FRICKIN' HUMANS! I didn't know a dog could be allergic to humans but she is allergic to human dander. We vacuum a lot.

She takes allergy shots, Caritin and low dose steroids . We try to keep the steroids to the lowest possible dose and keep a close eye on her liver values. Without the steroids she will scratch herself into a bloody mess.

[JAB1]

if your dog is prone to fighting, I'd suggest a muzzle when the risk is present for it to do so.

See, this is the part that bothers me. And not picking on you jab, just making a general comment here...

...dog ownership is a responsibility and more than just simply feeding and taking to the vet every now and then. Your animal is an extension of YOU, and you are liable for anything it does.

When I was young lad, a neighbor a couple of houses down, the lady of the house was a vet's assistant, and had a soft heart for the animals. She had way too many animals for a residential neighborhood, to include ducks (very noisy), raccoons (trouble makers), a friggin horse (for awhile), can you believe that? a friggin horse? And she had these two beautiful great danes. She allowed her 7 year old daughter take both these dogs for a walk around the neighborhood, each weighing in excess (I'm guessing) of 130lbs. Her daughter maybe weighed 60 lbs????

Now here comes little markey on his metal skates, the kind that slips over your shoes, with metal wheels. On a sidewalk they make a clikkety clack noise, ya know? and for some reason, that noise bothered both dogs. Now, 260+ pounds of pure muscle dogs is more than any 60 pound little girl can handle, and next thing you know, little markey is attacked by both dogs, and they have him by the neck....

...Now the owner of the dogs said "I had no idea that was going to happen"

...the way the law looked at it, she was negligent in that a prudent person should have known a 60 pound girl had no way of controlling these two beautiful dogs, and she was found guilty. It didn't matter that the dogs were on the leash. The problem was the owner lost control of the dogs.

So I get a little pissed when I see dogs off a leash, which to me means that the owner has abdicated all responsibility for the actions of his animal. I don't get mad at the animal, I get mad at the owner.

Kicking a dog is a small thing in a situation like this. It all happens split second. Now, sometimes you gotta take the owner out behind the wood pile and knock some sense in him.

...You don't let your dog off the leash in a public environment!

So now you know why this bugs me!!

I agree with you Roman. I dont own dogs now. I also believe it is up to the owner to control and properly train animals. And leash in public regardless of training, etc, to ensure control.
I grew up on 60 acres of country land with mean shepards and a gun in every corner to protect property, different world for sure. But I did learn what happens when you get in between 300 puonds of muscle and teeth