Your thoughts on Police officers using steroids to get an edge on criminal...

[JAB1]

Applying double standards really rocks. . . I mean, why can't some pig get juiced? Then I get busted with a vial of sauce and get 5k in BS fines.

Why can't some pig bitch run a red light in the middle of the night for no reason whatsoever, yet no one else can?

Fvck the LE - I chose what side of the law I am on & I am just fine with it.

Never trust a pig < this applies even if you are one.


I completely understand that they have a miserable job at times & they deal with the scum of the earth. But, that doesn't make most any better.

At a point of time I was considering a career in the LE field, but putting up with what they do & see is not worth it. Living a complete life of double standards is not something I want to do.

I dont know how to hightlight, but I am referencing your last sentaence. With all due respect you have verbalized on here that you cheat on your baby mamma, but would dump any chick that cheats on you.....Doesnt get much more double standard than that. You might want to look into criminal justice after all!!

[DexterMorgan]

They just need to make steroids legal for all.
Imagine walking into a pharmacy and getting human grade gear and ancillaries legally without prescription.

[< <Samson> >]

I dont know how to hightlight, but I am referencing your last sentaence. With all due respect you have verbalized on here that you cheat on your baby mamma, but would dump any chick that cheats on you.....Doesnt get much more double standard than that. You might want to look into criminal justice after all!!

I fvcked up & have done fvcked up shit. Sorry, I am not perfect. . . But, I don't enforce my word either behind a badge.

[austinite]

[bass]

^^^ true ^^^

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[Cuz]

When I was younger I tried to get into law enforcement. I was just 21..young, very dumb, and full of cum... Its risky business even trying to get into being a state trooper, because they search EVERYTHING on you. They go to your house, talk to people that know anything about you, the whole 9 yards.

I didn't make it the trooper academy needless to say. I did finish out pretty well in the PT course though. One trooper even bragged on the way I was built...anyway its about a 10 step process to make it to the academy which is 6 months long. I was doing great until I admitted using AAS. I felt I had to tell them, because you are hooked up to the polygraph test, and I didn't think I would pass it because I was nervous. He said well, we cant really go any farther unfortunately after you admittance. I was like great, ok, fvck it then. He said you can reapply in 7 years and it will be erased. I just said thanks and left.

Nothing ever came about it, and its over an done with. I personally know of cops using juice right this second and then busting people for the same damn thing. I have family members in law enforcement, not close but still.

So my answer is HELL NO they shouldn't be using the damn things if we cant. You cant uphold the law and abuse it yourself. Pretty fvcked up if you ask me. Im using them regardless of legal/illegal I don't care. But for them to use it and say its ok, no way. The law just ignores it and turns away, pretend its not happening and life goes on. Right? pretty much, but when they use themselves and then put imo innocent people away to prison for 2 years is bullshit.

They can use them for there job fine, keep it quiet like we are supposed too, but no way in hell should it be legalized, just because they are cops. If you really believe this should happen, I feel for you. Most of them abuse their power anyway, it wont ever change, why am I kidding myself.

[JAB1]

I fvcked up & have done fvcked up shit. Sorry, I am not perfect. . . But, I don't enforce my word either behind a badge.

Sorry man didnt mean to be a d*ck. Not perfect here either brother.

[< <Samson> >]

Sorry man didnt mean to be a d*ck. Not perfect here either brother.

Ehhh, at least I'm trying now. A new thing to me for sure


But, yeah - Pigs do serve a purpose of course, but the more they run on a double standard the more no one give a fack.


Still can't say, I want their job though - No one calls the cops just to say hello and ask how the day is going. Any traffic stop could be their last.

[austinite]

I dont know how to hightlight, but I am referencing your last sentaence. With all due respect you have verbalized on here that you cheat on your baby mamma, but would dump any chick that cheats on you.....Doesnt get much more double standard than that. You might want to look into criminal justice after all!!

That was uncalled for. Read that thread again and see what direction he took before you judge him.

[Lunk1]

Sorry man didnt mean to be a d*ck. Not perfect here either brother.

I think that's really the point^^^. NO ONE is perfect including the cops that some place on some sort of imaginary pedestal of expectations. It's a job and they are human. They make mistakes and bad choices. The are guilty of the same sins as the rest of man kind, pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed, and sloth.

The idea that they either be perfect or they are a piece of shit is retarded. It's expecting too much from anyone. They do a job that comes with certain power. That doesn't mean that they aren't fallible. Where is the line drawn for reasonable expectation? Should a cop never right a speeding citation because he went over the speed limit once? Should he quit his job out of shame and guilt because he had 1 more beer at the BBQ and drove home?

It's amazing how much hate there is for one single profession. Maybe it's the nature of a site where illegal substances are used or maybe it's just some bitter ppl who need to self reflect and determine if they are in some position that allows them to cast stones and judge ANYONE else.

[austinite]

No one is perfect is correct. But not everyone commits to...

On my honor, I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character, or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always uphold the constitution, my community and the agency I serve.

So not only would that cop be imperfect, he would also be a compulsive liar, dishonorable and a vile example for any law abiding citizens.

[< <Samson> >]

It's amazing how much hate there is for one single profession. Maybe it's the nature of a site where illegal substances are used or maybe it's just some bitter ppl who need to self reflect and determine if they are in some position that allows them to cast stones and judge ANYONE else.

Welly well, lets see what kind of a tune you sing if you ever get popped with juice. Or any other nonsense charge

[Lunk1]

No one is perfect is correct. But not everyone commits to...



So not only would that cop be imperfect, he would also be a compulsive liar, dishonorable and a vile example for any law abiding citizens.

Good thing there is no such thing.

[Lunk1]

Good thing there is no such thing.

By the way...I've never seen or heard anyone actually take an "oath" lol

[austinite]

Good thing there is no such thing.

Yes there is. But it Doesn't matter. Citizens did not commit to the oath. That is something you choose to do, not something forced upon you.

There's no way to justify it. None whatsoever.

[austinite]

By the way...I've never seen or heard anyone actually take an "oath" lol

Doesn't matter what you've experienced. It's what the law requires a cop to do.

[Lunk1]

Yes there is. But it Doesn't matter. Citizens did not commit to the oath. That is something you choose to do, not something forced upon you.

There's no way to justify it. None whatsoever.

Seems we have been here before....

[austinite]

yup. lol.

[Lunk1]

Doesn't matter what you've experienced. It's what the law requires a cop to do.

No it doesn't

[austinite]

No it doesn't

Now you're talking out of your ass just to instigate something.

Every mother fvcking cop that doesnt obey the same laws they enforce can suck a mother fvcking dockey dick.

[Lunk1]

I like this one better. It's much more within reasonable expectations.


I........................DO SWEAR,, THAT - I WILL WELL AND TRULY SERVE - OUR SOVEREIGN COUNTRY AND STATE - AS A POLICE OFFICER WITHOUT FAVOR OR AFFECTION - MALICE OR ILL-WILL - UNTIL I AM LEGALLY DISCHARGED, THAT I WILL SEE AND CAUSE ­ OUR COMMUNITY’S PEACE TO BE KEPT AND
PRESERVED - AND THAT - I WILL PREVENT TO THE BEST OF MY POWER - ALL OFFENSES AGAINST THAT PEACE - AND THAT - WHILE I CONTINUE TO BE A POLICE OFFICER - I WILL - TO THE BEST OF MY SKILL AND KNOWLEDGE - DISCHARGE ALL THE DUTIES THEREOF - FAITHFULLY - ACCORDING TO LAW.
SO HELP ME GOD.

[austinite]

^ Same shit...

[Lunk1]

Now you're talking out of your ass just to instigate something.

Every mother fvcking cop that doesnt obey the same laws they enforce can suck a mother fvcking dockey dick.

Was it something I said? Hmm such anger for pointing out that it's NOT a legal requirement to cite that oath you found somewhere.
Everything ok? Anything you want to talk about?

[austinite]

Was it something I said? Hmm such anger for pointing out that it's NOT a legal requirement to cite that oath you found somewhere.
Everything ok? Anything you want to talk about?

I purposely didn't quote you in my initial reply because of the history we have on this topic. I never wanted to engage in this with you, but shared my opinion. You decided to quote me and get this going again, unfortunately the same sarcastic and provoking manner as always.

So... if you have an issue with me, you can ignore me from now on.

[Lunk1]

I purposely didn't quote you in my initial reply because of the history we have on this topic. I never wanted to engage in this with you, but shared my opinion. You decided to quote me and get this going again, unfortunately the same sarcastic and provoking manner as always.

So... if you have an issue with me, you can ignore me from now on.

So the lack of quoting me in post #51 implies you were not referencing the post I made before that? C'mon.

Provoking manner? Like this statement?

"So not only would that cop be imperfect, he would also be a compulsive liar, dishonorable and a vile example for any law abiding citizens"

Not once did I say anything negative or derogatory to you. Not once did I make any sort of comment that would, without doubt, anger you or offend you.

[< <Samson> >]

Lunk = Cop

[Lunk1]

Lunk = Cop

I'm a farmer

[austinite]

JAB1 talked about being perfect, that's who triggered my post.

Anyway, I don't want to continue this stupid argument with you. I'm telling you, if this topic comes up, please ignore me. I don't want to deal with you and your ill ideas regarding this topic. You're a cop, and your opinion will always be in ways of defense and/or debunking reality.

We've talked, you and I, and we've made it clear that we both want to be peaceful on the boards. If you continue to quote me with these topics, that'll never happen. So let it go before the shit really hits the fan. I don't care for your opinion on this topic, and you don't care for mine. We've established that...

[MuscleInk]

Personal opinion and matter of choice. I'm not buying the "oath" crap. Plenty of doctors take an oath too but that doesn't stop them from abusing drugs, over prescribing, committing medical fraud, etc. I'm not condoning the behavior but corruption and malfeasance is independent of career choices. Sure, with greater power comes greater temptation but anyone using anabolics (in the example posed) in a country where these compounds are prohibited, is breaking the law and indictable. Police officers are human just like the rest of us. I don't personally hold then to any higher standard than I hold for myself - THAT is hippocracy at its best.

A lot of people have a hate on for police officers. Most of this stems from anger over being caught doing something you're not supposed to do.

What if the question was posed for firefighters? Wouldn't steroids assist THEM in their career demands? How could we justify condoning anabolic use in firefighters but not law enforcement. Sure, it may suck being busted for anabolic use by a steroid using cop, but the law is the law and no one is above it - not even law enforcement (and if they were caught they'd face the same/similar penalties).

[austinite]

Personal opinion and matter of choice. I'm not buying the "oath" crap. Plenty of doctors take an oath too but that doesn't stop them from abusing drugs, over prescribing, committing medical fraud, etc. I'm not condoning the behavior but corruption and malfeasance is independent of career choices. Sure, with greater power comes greater temptation but anyone using anabolics (in the example posed) in a country where these compounds are prohibited, is breaking the law and indictable. Police officers are human just like the rest of us. I don't personally hold then to any higher standard than I hold for myself - THAT is hippocracy at its best.

A lot of people have a hate on for police officers. Most of this stems from anger over being caught doing something you're not supposed to do.

What if the question was posed for firefighters? Wouldn't steroids assist THEM in their career demands? How could we justify condoning anabolic use in firefighters but not law enforcement. Sure, it may suck being busted for anabolic use by a steroid using cop, but the law is the law and no one is above it - not even law enforcement (and if they were caught they'd face the same/similar penalties).

This goes for any profession where the expectation is to lead by example for the given profession and it's rules/laws.

We're all human, it's not about being human. It's about commitment. And it's not hate for police officers in general, we all agree that we can't live without them, it's about being held responsible and potentially jailee for the same things they do. So this is scenario-specific.

And if a Doctor allows abuse in patients... they can go fvck themselves, too. So yeah... if you decide to take the oath and shove it up your ass (not directed at you MI, just generally speaking) then I can say whatever the fvck I want to say about your malpractice. We all know what happened to Dr. Scally............

And for the record... I actually do like lunk. Its this topic that gets me..

[cgi]

Well given that test makes you a more super version of what you already are I don't want some corrupt rights abusing aggressive cop on gear because he would probably be more likely to violate your rights even more and possibly try to frame or kill you. But for officers that understand their role as the PROTECTOR of rights and not as some elitist privileged enforcer then i don't see an issue.

Do you really want a dude like this cop on gear? This cop was probably already on gear to begin with.

[Cuz]

Well given that test makes you a more super version of what you already are I don't want some corrupt rights abusing aggressive cop on gear because he would probably be more likely to violate your rights even more and possibly try to frame or kill you. But for officers that understand their role as the PROTECTOR of rights and not as some elitist privileged enforcer then i don't see an issue.

Do you really want a dude like this cop on gear? This cop was probably already on gear to begin with.

So wrong man so wrong on so many levels. Poor guy, he was a very polite guy despite the officers behavior.

Im sure the officer is on gear, damn if he's not wtf? Im still bigger than he is lol, damn, wouldn't it be hard for you guys to take that kind of abuse? it would me, but It doesn't matter, he has the authority and we have zero.

[MuscleInk]

This goes for any profession where the expectation is to lead by example for the given profession and it's rules/laws.

We're all human, it's not about being human. It's about commitment. And it's not hate for police officers in general, we all agree that we can't live without them, it's about being held responsible and potentially jailee for the same things they do. So this is scenario-specific.

And if a Doctor allows abuse in patients... they can go fvck themselves, too. So yeah... if you decide to take the oath and shove it up your ass (not directed at you MI, just generally speaking) then I can say whatever the fvck I want to say about your malpractice. We all know what happened to Dr. Scally............

And for the record... I actually do like lunk. Its this topic that gets me..

Actually, I meant drug abuse among physicians but they also have a bad pill pushing habit IMO. There is still too much emphasis on treating and not enough on prevention ("a pill for every ill" as we say in the profession).

Unfortunately, "commitment" is lost on most people. Marriage is a commitment many under take but tempted by infidelity, the commitment to "love honor, cherish, until death do is part" (blah blah blah) is quickly forgotten. Income tax returns - how many of us have been guilty once or twice of embellishing or creative reporting to reduce taxation. It's a violation of law but many "law abiding citizens" do it. I'm sure there are many more examples.

I do agree, it would be unreasonable to allow LE to lawfully use anabolics and not other people. Where would one draw the line? Do we condone it for LE? Fire fighters? Military? How about construction workers or any other heavy labor career? It's either legal or illegal and the laws apply to all.

For the record, Lunk's career should be irrelevant. Many here are not comfortable disclosing their vocation. I have no issue with Lunk's career or his preferences over anabolics and I hold him to no higher standard than I hold myself. If he comes across a guy dealing steroids , it's his duty to detain and charge in accordance with the law. Does that make him a hippocrite if he uses steroids? Perhaps, but it makes him just as guilty as the rest of us IMO.

[MuscleInk]

Well given that test makes you a more super version of what you already are I don't want some corrupt rights abusing aggressive cop on gear because he would probably be more likely to violate your rights even more and possibly try to frame or kill you. But for officers that understand their role as the PROTECTOR of rights and not as some elitist privileged enforcer then i don't see an issue.

Do you really want a dude like this cop on gear? This cop was probably already on gear to begin with.

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc

Delusions of paranoia or persecution much????

[Hazard]

My view is this..... Cops are supposed to uphold the law. Are they human? Yes. Humans make mistakes. With that said...... I can see cops giving speeding tickets but yet still speeding themselves. Even though their badges are likely to get them off the hook. Things like that I can look past.

Now if a cop is a juice head and he pulls someone over and finds aas in the car and he busts him..... That makes him a hypocrite. Yes he had a job to do but he breaks the law himself. You can't uphold a law if you continually break it. I don't see any way to argue that.

[MuscleInk]

My view is this..... Cops are supposed to uphold the law. Are they human? Yes. Humans make mistakes. With that said...... I can see cops giving speeding tickets but yet still speeding themselves. Even though their badges are likely to get them off the hook. Things like that I can look past.

Now if a cop is a juice head and he pulls someone over and finds aas in the car and he busts him..... That makes him a hypocrite. Yes he had a job to do but he breaks the law himself. You can't uphold a law if you continually break it. I don't see any way to argue that.

Reminds me of a CHP that was driving well past 90 mph two nights ago in SoCal. He was heading to an accident in the opposite lanes a few miles up the road but didn't have his emergency lights on even though he was driving at an accelerated speed. THAT did piss me off. Not because he was driving fast, but because it was dark and the emergency lights would have alerted the other drivers to his rapid speed and need to arrive on scene. It seemed very reckless to other drivers IMO.

[Hazard]

Reminds me of a CHP that was driving well past 90 mph two nights ago in SoCal. He was heading to an accident in the opposite lanes a few miles up the road but didn't have his emergency lights on even though he was driving at an accelerated speed. THAT did piss me off. Not because he was driving fast, but because it was dark and the emergency lights would have alerted the other drivers to his rapid speed and need to arrive on scene. It seemed very reckless to other drivers IMO.

Exactly...... It's called common sense. There's a YouTube video of a Florida highway patrol officer pulling over a Miami cop for doing 120mph. He got a wreckless driving ticket.

Because of their positions they naturally get less suspicion thrown their way. Especially in regards to aas IMO. I know plenty of cops and hear stories all the time about guys in the department they know are on aas but no one ever does anything about it. I don't care about that really..... But if one of those mfkrs ever arrests me for it I'd be pissed

[MuscleInk]

Exactly...... It's called common sense. There's a YouTube video of a Florida highway patrol officer pulling over a Miami cop for doing 120mph. He got a wreckless driving ticket.

Because of their positions they naturally get less suspicion thrown their way. Especially in regards to aas IMO. I know plenty of cops and hear stories all the time about guys in the department they know are on aas but no one ever does anything about it. I don't care about that really..... But if one of those mfkrs ever arrests me for it I'd be pissed

....and so he should have gotten a ticket. Very poor judgement. Justice served.

[austinite]

[kelkel]

So wrong man so wrong on so many levels. Poor guy, he was a very polite guy despite the officers behavior.

Im sure the officer is on gear, damn if he's not wtf? Im still bigger than he is lol, damn, wouldn't it be hard for you guys to take that kind of abuse? it would me, but It doesn't matter, he has the authority and we have zero.

This is a no win thread. I'll post this only in rebuttal to the above video. They go both ways:

Guile theme goes with everything - Man beating female cop - YouTube