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05-06-2014, 07:20 PM #41
For years I was looking at buying one.There are so many good ones out there.I believe it just comes down too wat you are looking for in a rifle.
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05-06-2014, 07:30 PM #42
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05-06-2014, 07:48 PM #43
The 80gr match ammo has a bullet drop from 75-85" at 600 yrds (with a 100yrd zero) at a 1000 it's almost 150" of drop. At 600 yrds MOA being 6" diameter means that you would have to consistently place 3-5 rnds in a 2" diameter circle with 6.5 FEET of drop. Not to mention the effect of wind, heat, humidity etc.
Can 5.56 hit targets at 600-1000...sure. Would I feel comfortable saying it was 1/4 MOA at 600 dead nuts....not this kid.
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05-06-2014, 08:49 PM #44
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05-06-2014, 10:19 PM #45
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05-07-2014, 02:53 AM #46Senior Member
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Still use my Springfield .308. Not a fan of the heavy rifles and if you have been in the field with them you know why. F carrying that much weight for weeks at a time. I'll take my Springfield and add my Winchester 12-Guage with ammo and still be lighter.
I have no opinion on match shooting. The only real range uses live human targets.
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05-07-2014, 07:28 AM #47
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05-07-2014, 08:04 AM #48
You dumbasses don't know jack about snipe hunting. You can only hunt snipe at night, in a cemetery! Any real snipe hunter knows this.
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05-07-2014, 09:05 AM #49
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05-07-2014, 09:07 AM #50
Any thoughts on these ?
Robar is World's Most Accurate Rifles. ?
Accuracy Int. AW-SP 7.62x51mm NATO United Kingdom designed Bolt Action Surpressed Rifle ?
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05-07-2014, 09:43 AM #51
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05-07-2014, 04:01 PM #52
Idea! How about we line up a dozen guys in Cali, myself and another instructor will fly out and teach a 2 day course. Now that would be fun!!!!!!!!
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05-07-2014, 04:20 PM #53
I just watched a video of a shooter hitting a metal body size target at 1000 yards with an old moisin nagant open site. Trigger modified to a 2lb pull, tapered front side and on a tripod. The same shooter posts 2200 yard hits with 338 lapua, hes a very skilled marksman.
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05-07-2014, 04:23 PM #54
Last edited by Lunk1; 05-07-2014 at 04:26 PM.
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05-07-2014, 05:14 PM #55
Absolutely, i was just astounded that it was done with open sights. The sniper with the highest number of confirmed kills in history was from finland, during a period of about 100 days during ww2 he managed to kill 550 enemy soldiers using an open sight moison nagant. He became known as the white death
I was in my local gun store the other day trying to purchase a moison, sold out and might not get any more if Canada places trade embargoes on russia. The supply of cheap soviet 7.62mm ammo will probably dry up here too.
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05-07-2014, 06:42 PM #56
That's a great point on the iron sights. Some amazing groups and shots have been made with irons (and still are). The national high power matches at camp perry are all mostly irons matches from 200 yards out to 1k. Palma is irons.
Really it's not the telescope or sights. It comes down to ones ability to read conditions and dope accordingly. Of course proper position (NPA), sight alignment, focus, trigger control, etc are all important factors in steering your bullet to exactly where you intend for it to land. A sub-moa rifle and ammo obviously helps. Pick your tool or choice and have at it.
Shooting sports are great no matter what the discipline and there's always something to be learned when cross training in other disciplines. Plenty of military and civilian police snipers (or other MOS) cross train in irons matches (sometimes using their scopes) to keep up their doping skills and positions. A great time is always had by all and it's a learning experience for everyone involved at each match.
I'm sure lunk's classes will enjoyable just the same.
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05-08-2014, 04:59 PM #58
I love my daisy BB gun -I am even thinking of get a scope
I haven't even shot my eye out yet
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05-10-2014, 10:28 PM #59Junior Member
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M40A3 baby!
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05-15-2014, 12:31 AM #61
I like mine. Cheap and functional. Rem 700 Varmint in .308, B&C M40 Stock w/ bedded action and floated barrel, Timney trigger, Harris Bipod, and a SWFA SS 10x on top sitting in some burly rings on a one piece 20moa base. You miss with that thing and it's your own damn fault.
If I had more money? My fav? I don't know, there's a lot of beautiful and laser-accurate rifles out there.Last edited by Ernst; 05-15-2014 at 12:36 AM.
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05-15-2014, 02:04 AM #62
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