What is your view on this Ray Rice issue?

[xjay1234]

It is not just athletes.

What I find highly intriguing about this subject (I have spoken to my male cousin about this issue).

Is they seem to want the place the black male as the FACE of domestic violence and I think that is wrong.

What always intrigues me is the fact that people think it is just WOMEN that suffer domestic abuse!

Men suffer it too!

If a woman threatens you THAT IS DOMESTIC ABUSE.

She SPITS ON YOU THAT IS DOMESTIC ABUSE!

If she even KEYS YOUR CAR, that is domestic abuse!

VERY popular things!

A woman always gives you a sign of what she is about, if she is the type that has a temper etc etc.

Same as a man he will give you a sign from the JUMP.

That is why if you meet that woman and she is feminine and knows how to talk to you and has the WONDERFUL spirit about her and treats you right OH MY GOD YOU KEEP HER!

That is a keeper <3

Reminds me of my Turkish Lady I know.

Not talking about those women.

I am speaking about those disgusting skanks!

But people here clearly being OVER sensitive to hearing LOGICALLY truth, hard to keep it REAL here.

Everybody is behaving as if they have NO idea what I am saying.

Ray Rice picked the wrong woman, and I think soon she will divorce as now he is no longer a player.

So her calling the Police, I hope it was worth it for her.

Many issues happens in private with couples that never come to surface of course this Rice thing was on CCTV so right there they are seen.

But if this was behind closed doors they could have talked that over and sorted it out.

I think that there is a slow attack on black hetreosexual relationship.

Ray Rice is a millionaire and they couldn't get Michael Vick how they REALLY wanted but Rick BOOM he has been FOOKED!

He has been FOOKED and they haven't even given him a KISS!

*SMH*

Pick the right woman!

Why is it that these stars and athletes go around hitting on the person they love???

[Docd187123]

Exactly and he went to court with his wife and they both were questioned about it, she admitted she hit him twice and spat at him before he knocked her unconscious.

NFL fined him and gave him the 2 game suspension.

He issued a public apology to everybody (Didn't need to it wasn't your wife or my wife or anybody else's wife).

Case closed.

Now TMZ release the EDITED video (they admitted they edited it where she hit him and spat at him).

NFL suspend him indefinitely and Raven's terminate his contract.

If I was Mr Rice.

I'd sue!

Sue the NFL for a start!
Sue TMZ as well!
Sue The Ravens!

Get a GOOD Lawyer Ray!

A REAL good one. A SLICK one at that.

Cos he has legal grounds here.

Explain to me how her hitting him twice or spitting on him caused him physical harm? You're attempting to justify hitting a woman by saying if, and I quote, she hurts you, rocks you, etc. He didn't appear to be hurt or rocked yet he left her unconscious. Is that your definition of self defense? Was his life or safety in jeopardy?

He has no basis for using anybody. The videos are public property aired by the media with the right to air it, he is under contract and a personal conduct policy violation is enough to sever his contract, the team is a brand and a public company. They are perfectly within their rights to terminate the employment of someone who doesn't represent the image of the company. Here are numerous clauses in the contract for doing so in a legal manner. Just stop now before you sink yourself in a deeper hole than you're already in.

[Times Roman]

no respect for any man that:

1) hits a woman
2) hits someone half his size

fuk 'em. castrate his dumb ass for all I care............

[thegame1431]

If you're a MAN, you should know that you should never hit a woman unless your life or someone else's is in danger. He acted self-entitled like "How dare she disrespect me??"

exactly, it wasnt an even matchup. That is like saying if someone pinches my arm I should shoot them in the head.... it isnt the appropriate level of reaction. for the NFL all that matters is image and sponsors, so they have no choice

[Times Roman]

and when did all this "disrespect me" shit start anyhow?

someone didn't have the vocabulary to effectively communicate their feelings so this is what they came up with?

[< <Samson> >]

More useless reading done by me

Hit a woman? Sure, go for it - if she's threatening your life. Not just being a biotch, spitting in your face or whatever else.

You are man that is damn near double her size. Come on - but, I guess anyone can just lose it.

But, IMO I would try my best not to. Specially being someone in the public eye.

In his case, serves him right - dumb ass

OP - you're a douche bag

[satisfaction1822]

Been in a few shit situations like this.
Had a girl break her nose on me once. She was drunk running at me and just dident stop. Cop laughted at her.
Best things to do is either walk away or subdue her if you can't get away.

[tarmyg]

This thread should be sticked as an example of "how to make completely incoherent arguments"

[lovbyts]

I've had women throw punches, plates, glasses and phones at me. I literally LOL as I reached down to pull a piece of broken glass out or my shin from the glass that hit me (bad aim, I'm sure she was going for the head) and dodged the phone by mm's. I just blocked her punches until she got tired and sat her ass on the floor before walking out. I've had to actually make a couple of them sit on the floor in a time out so to speak over the hears.

When I was little my mom use to tell all the girls I played with that she taught me if they hit me I am to hit them back, except harder. Of course I never did but I think it made several of them think twice. My mom told the same thing to my girlfriends. lol

[ironbeck]

The ray rice situation? I could care less what he did. Me personally, appreciate my freedom, I was in a similar situation and did nothing, when she came home the next day I was moved the **** out. I'm not wasting away in some cell for any female. If you don't get along, cut ties and move on.( It's called being a mature, stable adult lol) I feel amused how some couples strive on chaos and know no different, lovey duby in the afternoon and ten drinks later at each others throat lol. Not the way I choose to live my days on this mud ball flying through space. I was taught not to hit a woman, and I never have....on that key note I have seen a couple dumb ass psycho ****s that deserved what they got lol. That is all, carry on.

[xjay1234]

Ray Rice.

Please sue.

Get a MASSIVE pay out.

He was serving his suspension and the court realised it was an issue between him and his lady.

I have explain already about reacting, but everybody is acting like they don't know what I am talking about.

Cos when that California officer BEAT that grandmother on the highway. NO OUTRAGE!

But over Rice and HIS OWN wife people kick up a stink, FAKE SELECTIVE OUTRAGE!

There are men on this earth who will KILL if you put a hand on them, REGARDLESS of WHO you are.

Explain to me how her hitting him twice or spitting on him caused him physical harm? You're attempting to justify hitting a woman by saying if, and I quote, she hurts you, rocks you, etc. He didn't appear to be hurt or rocked yet he left her unconscious. Is that your definition of self defense? Was his life or safety in jeopardy?

He has no basis for using anybody. The videos are public property aired by the media with the right to air it, he is under contract and a personal conduct policy violation is enough to sever his contract, the team is a brand and a public company. They are perfectly within their rights to terminate the employment of someone who doesn't represent the image of the company. Here are numerous clauses in the contract for doing so in a legal manner. Just stop now before you sink yourself in a deeper hole than you're already in.

[xjay1234]

EVERYBODY keep their hands, feet and SALIVA to their self SIMPLE!

It is not difficult it is not neurosurgery!

Because if you DON'T keep your hands, feed OR SALIVA to yourself. MALE or FEMALE then you better brace yourself for what will come NEXT!

SIMPLE!

Whoopi Goldberg FINALLY said something that I agree with she said that girls need to be TAUGHT not to hit on boys, and it is NOT okay for a woman to go around attacking a man and hide behind *I'm a woman*

Basic common sense must come through!

Ridiculous!

I am not talking about Farrah Fawcett's BURNING BED film where THAT WAS A MAN THAT WAS AN ABUSER! He needed to be dealt with.

But you hitting a woman back if she has hit on you or rocked you, spits in your face, your gonna hit them right back! Automatically!

[xjay1234]

YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT!

Which is why people better pick their woman WISELY!!!!!

I said it earlier and I will say it again A LOT of men are in HOMOSEXUAL relationships and they DON'T EVEN REALISE! Cos their woman act so much like men, always attacking him, fighting him and full of Testosterone !

Not the type of woman for me thank you.

A cute FEMININE woman that is the one for me.

Not some bitch that wants to provoke a fight. Cos you'd react!

(People playing the game as if they don't know what I am speaking about)

I don't play the denial game.

The ray rice situation? I could care less what he did. Me personally, appreciate my freedom, I was in a similar situation and did nothing, when she came home the next day I was moved the **** out. I'm not wasting away in some cell for any female. If you don't get along, cut ties and move on.( It's called being a mature, stable adult lol) I feel amused how some couples strive on chaos and know no different, lovey duby in the afternoon and ten drinks later at each others throat lol. Not the way I choose to live my days on this mud ball flying through space. I was taught not to hit a woman, and I never have....on that key note I have seen a couple dumb ass psycho ****s that deserved what they got lol. That is all, carry on.

[Cuz]

Every few days you come here to start an argument, thats really all you do. Just start shit in the lounge. My question is why? Why do you come to a steroid forum and start shit like this? Why not other forums? You clearly dont train or have any knowledge of diet or training so why show up here? Sure you can do whatever you want but it doesn't make sense to me for someone like you to show interest in a steroid forum. I just dont get it.

[austinite]

Every few days you come here to start an argument, thats really all you do. Just start shit in the lounge. My question is why? Why do you come to a steroid forum and start shit like this? Why not other forums? You clearly dont train or have any knowledge of diet or training so why show up here? Sure you can do whatever you want but it doesn't make sense to me for someone like you to show interest in a steroid forum. I just dont get it.

He's one of the most annoying members to date. Starts off with a seemingly worthwhile discussion, but quickly shows his true colors. Always trying to ruffle feathers.

[DADDYDBOL]

You know those people that make you wonder "who the fvck ties your shoes in the morning?"

Yeah.....

[jimmyinkedup]

You won't do SHIT!!!!!!!!

YOU WON'T LEVEL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

SPIT IN YOUR FACE? I'D PISS IN YOUR FACE!!!!!!!!

You miss ALL my key points I was speaking off!!!!!!!

I said IF A MAN HITS A FEMININE WOMAN FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES FOR NO REASON HE NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH!

But a woman that challenges a man, fights a man, provokes a man, attacks a man, hurts a man I CAN SEE WHY A MAN WOULD DECK HER!

She loses her femininity!

See I am not here to try win any buddies and get online vagina love from cyber females.

I am speaking from LOGIC ANYBODY that HITS YOU and it ROCKED you and HURT YOU, you are gonna STRIKE THAT PERSON BACK!

You talk all that shit about ****ing not doing anything back, your try that with certain females and you would be left 6 feet under!

So you keep talking about you'd never do ANYTHING, cos when you are pushed to the limit, you will react!

Acting as if you have NO IDEA what I am saying!

Your an idiot. A total fvcking idiot. Not just based on this but on every thread you post here. I wish you would take your drivel elsewhere but until you go just too far, which you will, we are stuck with you. It happens but the good news is an ass like you cant last too long and we will be rid of you, until the next one. Or perhaps you are a previous one that is back, seems likely, worth looking into in fact. Have a great day.

[Docd187123]

Ray Rice.

Please sue.

Get a MASSIVE pay out.

He was serving his suspension and the court realised it was an issue between him and his lady.

I have explain already about reacting, but everybody is acting like they don't know what I am talking about.

Cos when that California officer BEAT that grandmother on the highway. NO OUTRAGE!

But over Rice and HIS OWN wife people kick up a stink, FAKE SELECTIVE OUTRAGE!

There are men on this earth who will KILL if you put a hand on them, REGARDLESS of WHO you are.

You're an idiot. The video you posted received lots of attention. Maybe YOU didn't see the outrage but it was there. Just google CHP beats grandma and you'll see it clear as day. What, was the NFL supposed to suspend this grandmother too? Of course the NFL gets a lot of publicity, it is an entity in the public eye. You have absolutely zero sense of logic and your posts are plain idiotic. You are a wife beater in the making.....

[DrewZ]

This is dumb.

OP if I witnessed a male strike a woman for any of those things you mentioned I promise you, he would be getting KTFO.

[--->>405<<---]

u dont hit women for being emotional, which is exactly what it looks like was going on in that video. they are the weaker vessel. we are to protect them and even sometimes be willing to suffer undeserved physical, mental, and emotional punishment from them without them having to fear being harmed by us. its called being a principled and responsible, mature man.

little boys are the ones who try to make excuses for immature and unacceptable behavior which is exactly what this is an example of.

like most guys i have suffered all kinds of abuse from women. sometimes it was funny, other times it really pissed me off.

xjay maybe one day when u grow up to be a big boy u will understand what were talking about here. from the looks of ur posts, that may be a long, long time (if ever).

in the mean time, i hope ur girlfriend has an older brother who can give u what u deserve if u ever lay a hand on any of ur women.. kind of reminds me of a great clip ill include here i think u all got some satisfaction from watching. i know i did:

[GirlyGymRat]

Because your more than likely to loose your temper at someone you know then someone you don't. Statistics

I call bull. Its an immature response to strike. I Have never hit a man. I have never been hit by a man.

I am out of this thread. It's gotten weird.

[xjay1234]

MASTERS OF DISTORTION AND DENIAL!

There are MANY mothers that tell their daughters *Do not hit any boy! Because if he hits you don't be shocked if he hits you back*

Ray Rice is just a target now.

Michael Vick was not punished enough (people feel)

Chris Brown they got him a little.

But Ray Rice HAS BEEN STUNG!

The feminist movement have struck once again.

They didn't yell whatsoever when the Officer beat that woman on the highway NO FEMINIST MOVEMENT CAME to her defense!

All they are interested in doing is taking Mr Rice's money away and his livelihood.

Deep down they have no passion for Mrs Rice! Lesson to keep family business PRIVATE business.

But as I write this thread message now a white man is kicking the 5HIT out of his white woman, and I say I hope she dies!

Goodbye thread!

You idiots act like you lack comprehension skills!

[< <Samson> >]

Love that part


Suck that, woman beating Billy Bad Ass

[diesel101]

I wish we could all just get along.

[hawk14dl]

I could only justify striking a woman if she's armed with some sort of weapon, basically if I feel I'm in immediate fear to my health or well being.

Or if she hits me in the nuts. That would probably get it done too. Only if I don't deserve it though

[--->>405<<---]

I could only justify striking a woman if she's armed with some sort of weapon, basically if I feel I'm in immediate fear to my health or well being.

Or if she hits me in the nuts. That would probably get it done too. Only if I don't deserve it though

who makes that determination?

[hawk14dl]

Oh, I know if I deserve it

[frank13]

I love Women the only time u should hit a Woman is when u spank her butt...with her Permission of course

[kelkel]

This is my contribution to this very worthwhile thread....

Tru tv REPO MAN VS KARATE MAN - YouTube

[zaggahamma]

I never think one should lose your job if you dont commit a crime on or at your job....if you lose work because you were jailed then that would change things just depends on if they can replace you, etc.

If a person commits a crime WHICH HE DID as he used extreme bodily harm on her, they should be tried by a jury or face the justice system as everyone else does

but i dont believe when you face the law that after you should be denied the right to work/earn a living the best way you know how

[davidtheman100]

She's not gonna press charges and she's gonna stay with him so that he can continue to make money. She likes when he doesn't hit her, but she likes money more.

[derekkpapa1]

I wouldn't hit a woman but would surely shake the shit out of her.

Just messing but I have a big ass sister that would do anything for money or a 30 rack of bud light so I never I had to worry.

Ray rice is a bitch for what he did and should get locked in a jail cell with Bubba and his friends.

[davidtheman100]

NEVER hit a woman unless she doesn't make you a sandwich..

[ironbeck]

The only ppl really suffering is his chilldren and their stomachs because daddy got fired.

[Honkey_Kong]

I never think one should lose your job if you dont commit a crime on or at your job....if you lose work because you were jailed then that would change things just depends on if they can replace you, etc.

If a person commits a crime WHICH HE DID as he used extreme bodily harm on her, they should be tried by a jury or face the justice system as everyone else does

but i dont believe when you face the law that after you should be denied the right to work/earn a living the best way you know how

Normally, I'd agree with you. But these guys have clauses in their contracts that enable the league to fire them for their off-the-field behaviour. So they can do what they want and he has to take it.

Given the circumstances, I don't think he should be fired. She did instigate it. She did hit him twice prior and spat on him. And I don't think it's the hitting that put him in a rage, but I can totally see the spitting doing that. When you mess with the bull you get the horns. She should've known better.

And we're living in the age of feminism too. Women are not these helpless beings anymore, they're supposed to be equals. If that's true then there should be just as much concern for knocking her out as there would be if it were some wimpy dude getting KOed. Now if we're going to label women as a protected class, then we need to remove their "equality" in the world and put them back in the kitchens where we can keep them protected. What they have now is better than equality for them.

[noon]

You won't do SHIT!!!!!!!!

YOU WON'T LEVEL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

SPIT IN YOUR FACE? I'D PISS IN YOUR FACE!!!!!!!!

You miss ALL my key points I was speaking off!!!!!!!

I said IF A MAN HITS A FEMININE WOMAN FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES FOR NO REASON HE NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH!

But a woman that challenges a man, fights a man, provokes a man, attacks a man, hurts a man I CAN SEE WHY A MAN WOULD DECK HER!

She loses her femininity!

See I am not here to try win any buddies and get online vagina love from cyber females.

I am speaking from LOGIC ANYBODY that HITS YOU and it ROCKED you and HURT YOU, you are gonna STRIKE THAT PERSON BACK!

You talk all that shit about ****ing not doing anything back, your try that with certain females and you would be left 6 feet under!

So you keep talking about you'd never do ANYTHING, cos when you are pushed to the limit, you will react!

Acting as if you have NO IDEA what I am saying!

I stopped reading when I hit this.
You sir are a ****ing twat.
The men where I was raised don't hit women.

[zaggahamma]

Normally, I'd agree with you. But these guys have clauses in their contracts that enable the league to fire them for their off-the-field behaviour. So they can do what they want and he has to take it.

Given the circumstances, I don't think he should be fired. She did instigate it. She did hit him twice prior and spat on him. And I don't think it's the hitting that put him in a rage, but I can totally see the spitting doing that. When you mess with the bull you get the horns. She should've known better.

And we're living in the age of feminism too. Women are not these helpless beings anymore, they're supposed to be equals. If that's true then there should be just as much concern for knocking her out as there would be if it were some wimpy dude getting KOed. Now if we're going to label women as a protected class, then we need to remove their "equality" in the world and put them back in the kitchens where we can keep them protected. What they have now is better than equality for them.

yes ....the contract part does make it easier and legal to fire and the whole representing the brand thing...i'm just see performing a job as totally separate than surviving and/or prospering post crime

[hawk14dl]

Ok, as much as I hate to admit, I can somewhat agree with op. Here's how and why:
Women physically assault men. They do this knowing they don't need to fear retribution. Physically or legally. This isn't right, and since we're arguing right and wrong I think this argument has a pertinent place in the debate.

For example, an OU football player was recently suspended from the team for an altercation involving a female. The video has not been released, but members of the media were allowed to view it.
The description of the event, the female confronted the player and made verbal slurs toward him (harassment). He attempted to avoid the confrontation. She pushed him (assault), he tried to walk away. She got back in his face and slapped him (another assault), he immediately and instinctively responded with a punch to the face (overkill yes, still considered self defense).
This resulted in numerous broken bones in her face.

The DA would not press charges against the female, and instead pressed charges against the player for assault. On a situation he tried to avoid, and was provoked by the female.

Should he have hit her? No. Should she have hit him? Still no. Yet he received legal recourse and scholastic and athletic recourse from the situation she placed him in.

In the argument of wrong and right, that's wrong.

[Shol'va]

[zaggahamma]

Violence IS wrong on any sex by any sex