If somebody did this to your child what would you do?

[xjay1234]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lebczVnFLTU

[RigPig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lebczVnFLTU

If that girl was unarmed then He should be beat into the dirt. If she was armed and threatening student or teachers then she should be beat harder than that. Why can't people video the whole thing. Pretty sure the cop didn't decide to stop at the school to beat on a kid. Not enough detail to make a proper decision IMO.

[Hoggage_54]

[212OlympiaBound]

Girl was probably very disruptive to get the cops brought in.

A whole lot of kids could use their butts kicked. The officer did no lasting damage at all; I doubt the kid even has a bruise.

Go officer!

Edit: I can't believe how soft modern society is getting with the politically correct shit. Oh my god he dragged her to the floor when she wouldn't cooperate!!!! Lets make this a dam national news incident! Fck this earth.

[lovbyts]

I would want to see/know what lead up to that point. I guarantee the cop did not just walk in and tackle her. I bet there is at least 10 minutes of her refusing to get up and leave the classroom and more.

Dont be quick to judge without knowing all the facts.

[bigdil511]

I would want to see/know what lead up to that point. I guarantee the cop did not just walk in and tackle her. I bet there is at least 10 minutes of her refusing to get up and leave the classroom and more. Dont be quick to judge without knowing all the facts.

Seriously.

[Sfla80]

She was asked to leave classroom after being told to get off her cellphones. She refused then he was called in.

Girl was definitely being "difficult" to say the least. Or loss of other adjectives lol.

I'm not picking sides here...but the officer was employees of the year or something last year.

But also he in known as "officer slam" by the students apparently

[xjay1234]

HYPOCRISY KNOW NO ENDS!

I read all the responses! Right! So, I don't want anybody to get upset when a man hits a woman or cry when Ray Rice punched his wife in the face for spitting in his face - cos all of that was seen a BAD - but this officer appears to be defending for his rough house tactics on this little girl.

I have no children - but if that was my child - that officer would have to sleep with one eye open. Being perfectly honest.

That video says all.

If a teacher trainee did that to a pupil that teacher trainee would be sacked right away.

But, nice to see where people stand on this subject and wanting 'more evidence' after seeing the video. Nobody said that about the Ray Rice video 'we need more evidence' that was all the evidence needed for him to lose his NFL privileges.

Hypocrisy! What a thing!

[calgarian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lebczVnFLTU

do you have kids?

[calgarian]

HYPOCRISY KNOW NO ENDS!

I read all the responses! Right! So, I don't want anybody to get upset when a man hits a woman or cry when Ray Rice punched his wife in the face for spitting in his face - cos all of that was seen a BAD - but this officer appears to be defending for his rough house tactics on this little girl.

I have no children - but if that was my child - that officer would have to sleep with one eye open. Being perfectly honest.

That video says all.

If a teacher trainee did that to a pupil that teacher trainee would be sacked right away.

But, nice to see where people stand on this subject and wanting 'more evidence' after seeing the video. Nobody said that about the Ray Rice video 'we need more evidence' that was all the evidence needed for him to lose his NFL privileges.

Hypocrisy! What a thing!

ok you answer my question......lets talk about it when you have a kid . I will save my comments till then

[< <Samson> >]

Seeing this kind of shit is what gives pigs a bad name.

OMG she refused to get up & get off her cell phone. This really calls for that to be the solution.

Again - another over worked, under paid, pissed off at the world cop lost it on the job - that's it, nothing more - nothing less


How about pull all the students out of class then deal with her belligerent self.

[Hazard]

I have kids..... Here's my view

Without knowing all the details: If a police officer was called to remove my kid from class..... She would have bigger problems at home than what happened. I wouldn't be mad that he "tried" to remove her IF she refused. I would however have a major issue with him throwing her across the room. That's 100% uncalled for.....

[212OlympiaBound]

I have kids..... Here's my view

Without knowing all the details: If a police officer was called to remove my kid from class..... She would have bigger problems at home than what happened. I wouldn't be mad that he "tried" to remove her IF she refused. I would however have a major issue with him throwing her across the room. That's 100% uncalled for.....

She was resisting arrest. This is what happens when you resist (real life). Shit, she barely got scratched. Maybe she'll listen to the officer next time!

[kelkel]

Per the news, she would not cooperate with the teacher. Teacher called the principal and she would not cooperate with him. LE then was called and it went from there. One student in the class said the cop did nothing wrong and it was all the girls fault and that she wanted to show off, be tough, etc.

I'm curious what type of upbringing she had where she thinks it's ok to refuse to cooperate with teachers, principal's and LE? Regardless of what this cop did and it's end result, this girl needs a parent to put a foot up her ass.

[DOSA]

I have kids..... Here's my view

Without knowing all the details: If a police officer was called to remove my kid from class..... She would have bigger problems at home than what happened. I wouldn't be mad that he "tried" to remove her IF she refused. I would however have a major issue with him throwing her across the room. That's 100% uncalled for.....

Agree.

My kid would not act like that. I have no problem with the girl being flipped out of her desk. I do have a problem with the midget tossing he did to her after she was on ground.
pretty simple like most of the other cases, act like a disrespectful punk and be treated by one. She was asked to leave the class, but she chose to stay and disrupt others trying to learn. Girl was wrong, cop was wrong.

one action caused another, she caused this shit to happen.

[< <Samson> >]

It's real life - many kids in our society have zero parental guidance - period

But, throwing that biotch around seems a tad excessive. Yet, I do suppose anything would from a big ass cop to some punk ass bitch.

And when these situations happen, shit flares quick. I am never going to be cop, but if I was - I damn near guarantee I'd do something similar from one of these fvck sticks making me lose my marbles.

[RaginCajun]

Per the news, she would not cooperate with the teacher. Teacher called the principal and she would not cooperate with him. LE then was called and it went from there. One student in the class said the cop did nothing wrong and it was all the girls fault and that she wanted to show off, be tough, etc.

I'm curious what type of upbringing she had where she thinks it's ok to refuse to cooperate with teachers, principal's and LE? Regardless of what this cop did and it's end result, this girl needs a parent to put a foot up her ass.

THIS!

no one is talking about that, which is the problem. i bet she behaves like that at home.

while i think the cop could have not been so aggressive, the teenager is still wrong from not complying

[< <Samson> >]

i bet she behaves like that at home.

What home?

I am too close to this nasty reality myself. Personally I didn't even have any form of parenting past the age of 12 or so. Moved out of what I suppose was my parent's home when I barely turned 17.

It sucks, kids just grow up with zero positive guidance or influence.


The only time these so called parents or guardians pop up is when money or publicity is involved.

[calgarian]

Normally I dont watched videos involving kids but i saw this one, here is my question why the cops were bought in the get her removed from the class? dont you think the school will call parents before going to the cops? In canada it would never happened only in US baby

[RaginCajun]

Normally I dont watched videos involving kids but i saw this one, here is my question why the cops were bought in the get her removed from the class? dont you think the school will call parents before going to the cops? In canada it would never happened only in US baby

from what i have read, she was fighting/arguing with another student

the teacher called the principal. principal asks them to leave, one of the students got up and left. she did not listen to her teacher or the principal, so the principal called the resource officer (cop, each school normally has one now). she was noncompliant

[RaginCajun]

What home?

I am too close to this nasty reality myself. Personally I didn't even have any form of parenting past the age of 12 or so. Moved out of what I suppose was my parent's home when I barely turned 17.

It sucks, kids just grow up with zero positive guidance or influence.


The only time these so called parents or guardians pop up is when money or publicity is involved.

home/environment, meaning she does what she wants i bet.

[calgarian]

from what i have read, she was fighting/arguing with another student

the teacher called the principal. principal asks them to leave, one of the students got up and left. she did not listen to her teacher or the principal, so the principal called the resource officer (cop, each school normally has one now). she was noncompliant

shouldnt principle called the parents? it is a bigger issue I agree it all depends on upbringing. but still I personally think that the cop had no right to treat a kid like that Yes she is being a brat and have issues with authority but the parents should be called , my 2 cents.

[Hoggage_54]

He's been fired and is no longer a police officer:

Spring Valley High Officer Ben Fields fired - CNN.com

[Hazard]

shouldnt principle called the parents? it is a bigger issue I agree it all depends on upbringing. but still I personally think that the cop had no right to treat a kid like that Yes she is being a brat and have issues with authority but the parents should be called , my 2 cents.

And what would the parents have done? Sure they woulda gotten her to leave but then what? Tomorrow she comes to school and pulls the same shit again.....?

The problem with kids today is there's no discipline. If I talked back I got a back hand to the mouth. If I did some dumb shit I got a leather belt to the hamstrings. I'm not perfect by any mean but I respect other people and I don't act like damned fool.

Kids today are pampered and coddled way too much. Everyone gets a trophy so no one is left out. What's even scarier is these kids will be running the damn country someday.

[calgarian]

And what would the parents have done? Sure they woulda gotten her to leave but then what? Tomorrow she comes to school and pulls the same shit again.....?

The problem with kids today is there's no discipline. If I talked back I got a back hand to the mouth. If I did some dumb shit I got a leather belt to the hamstrings. I'm not perfect by any mean but I respect other people and I don't act like damned fool.

Kids today are pampered and coddled way too much. Everyone gets a trophy so no one is left out. What's even scarier is these kids will be running the damn country someday.

if parent cant control the child then kid should not be living with them. Once the situation is under control then certain measures can be taken to avoid things from happening but doing what the officer did doesnt justify his actions . Parent should be able to control their damn kids by hook or by crook if it means slapping them to teach them a lesson I am all up for it .

Here is another question I have, why the hell cops are trying to discipline the students ON the school property school authorities are joke. Keep in mind that I am not saying the kids were not to blame but adults acting like jackarses doesnt solve any issues.

[Hazard]

if parent cant control the child then kid should not be living with them. Once the situation is under control then certain measures can be taken to avoid things from happening but doing what the officer did doesnt justify his actions . Parent should be able to control their damn kids by hook or by crook if it means slapping them to teach them a lesson I am all up for it . Here is another question I have, why the hell cops are trying to discipline the students ON the school property school authorities are joke. Keep in mind that I am not saying the kids were not to blame but adults acting like jackarses doesnt solve any issues.

Aparantly the county Sherrif agrees. They said they don't want to be involved in school matters but do to passed legislation in their state - they have to

[jimmyinkedup]

I have kids..... Here's my view

Without knowing all the details: If a police officer was called to remove my kid from class..... She would have bigger problems at home than what happened. I wouldn't be mad that he "tried" to remove her IF she refused. I would however have a major issue with him throwing her across the room. That's 100% uncalled for.....

Spot freaking on man, spot on....

[< <Samson> >]

Gawd I hate people

[Hoggage_54]

Here's "Officer Slam", his nickname given to him by the students because of his aggressive behaviour, benching 605... can we expect steroid accusations/defense? Maybe he's a member here?

[Hoggage_54]

Here's Officer Slam taking down an active Army member in 2005, who later lost their army job because of being labeled a criminal but was later found not guilty. His crime? Loud music in his car, allegedly.

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/nation...icle-1.2412418

[Hoggage_54]

"Martin said the beefy officer "snapped" after he called him "dude," and slammed him on the ground. He began pepper-spraying the helpless veteran, but Martin said he was trained in the military to resist the chemicals. An entire canister of the stuff failed to disable Martin."

[212OlympiaBound]

if parent cant control the child then kid should not be living with them. Once the situation is under control then certain measures can be taken to avoid things from happening but doing what the officer did doesnt justify his actions . Parent should be able to control their damn kids by hook or by crook if it means slapping them to teach them a lesson I am all up for it .

Here is another question I have, why the hell cops are trying to discipline the students ON the school property school authorities are joke. Keep in mind that I am not saying the kids were not to blame but adults acting like jackarses doesnt solve any issues.

Wow...somebody else finally sees this situation my way.

I came home drunk once when I was a kid (just being obnoxious), and my grandma hit me over the head with a cast-iron frying pan. Knocked me clean out and put a crack in my skull.

Stuff like this is tame. She resisted, so he had to forcefully take her out of the chair. Dumb girl barely got a scratch on her and the world is up in arms against cops again.

[Moonjumper]

There is additional video of the incident from a slightly different angle. After refusing to get up and leave the classroom the officer goes to physically make her leave. Appears to grab the back of her shirt and her pants leg. She appears to hit him in the face and chest as well as try to kick him all before the desk flips over. She also appears to kick her other leg downward which could/would help if not even cause the desk to flip. As far as then dragging her to the front of the room vs cuffing her beside the overturned desk, he would have more room up there as well as likely less items she could grab.

The first video looks bad. Second one doesn't look a lot better. However no use of force ever actually looks good. And having done law enforcement for over a decade now I can promise that reality is rarely ever what the person arrested will tell you. To me this whole incident is more an issue with our modern society. A respect for rules is mocked. Children are often encouraged to disobey. And for the most part the media and entertainment industry are helping push it along.

But I do have a question. If you were there, how would you handle the situation of the girl refusing to cooperate?

[jimmyinkedup]

There is additional video of the incident from a slightly different angle. After refusing to get up and leave the classroom the officer goes to physically make her leave. Appears to grab the back of her shirt and her pants leg. She appears to hit him in the face and chest as well as try to kick him all before the desk flips over. She also appears to kick her other leg downward which could/would help if not even cause the desk to flip. As far as then dragging her to the front of the room vs cuffing her beside the overturned desk, he would have more room up there as well as likely less items she could grab.

The first video looks bad. Second one doesn't look a lot better. However no use of force ever actually looks good. And having done law enforcement for over a decade now I can promise that reality is rarely ever what the person arrested will tell you. To me this whole incident is more an issue with our modern society. A respect for rules is mocked. Children are often encouraged to disobey. And for the most part the media and entertainment industry are helping push it along.

But I do have a question. If you were there, how would you handle the situation of the girl refusing to cooperate?

Being in law enforcement and watching this I would think you would be cringing. He made some serious mistakes and had the situation been different with a different perpetrator things could have ended really badly. Why once he had her in his grasp why did he release her from his grasp, throwing her? This is a big no no and afforded her the opportunity to pull a weapon and use it if she had one. Also I would have cleared the entire room prior to this entire interaction, ensuring all there were going to be safe and removed from any potential danger. How I would have handled it to a T is difficult to say but it would not have been like this. He used unnecessary force. It was a refusal to comply yet there was no immediate danger that warranted the level of force he used. If anything his behavior escalated the situation, it didnt quell it.

[Moonjumper]

Being in law enforcement and watching this I would think you would be cringing. He made some serious mistakes and had the situation been different with a different perpetrator things could have ended really badly. Why once he had her in his grasp why did he release her from his grasp, throwing her? This is a big no no and afforded her the opportunity to pull a weapon and use it if she had one. Also I would have cleared the entire room prior to this entire interaction, ensuring all there were going to be safe and removed from any potential danger. How I would have handled it to a T is difficult to say but it would not have been like this. He used unnecessary force. It was a refusal to comply yet there was no immediate danger that warranted the level of force he used. If anything his behavior escalated the situation, it didnt quell it.

Oh not saying I didn't cringe. I would have taken a different approach myself as well. If you clear the room you will reduce witnesses. Personal opinion the principal should have recorded the entire exchange including any and all instances of her refusing to comply with requests/demands to leave the room and go to the office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6y...ature=youtu.be

Same video but with slowmo. He grabs her arm to make her stand up. She pulls away. He then tries to control her head (not calling it a headlock because was a pitiful attempt if was his goal or choke because he obviously isn't trying to choke her out.) He grabs her pants leg. She swings at him multiple times as he continues to pull her out. She kicks out and attempts to get loose from him again. While kicking out the desk overturns. He has physical contact with her body during the desk flipping. He is not holding the desk or flipping it. (I think the desk flipping was on both of them, she trying to pull away and him trying to pull her up.) Desk flips and he pulls her out of it and she and he are both directly against the wall. He spins and also spins her. I really don't know if he was intentionally trying to let go or if he just lost his grip.

[Moonjumper]

Difference is white boy is already in custody in that picture and an entire swat team made the hit to arrest him. Black girl is actively resisting in the picture.

[jimmyinkedup]

Oh not saying I didn't cringe. I would have taken a different approach myself as well. If you clear the room you will reduce witnesses. Personal opinion the principal should have recorded the entire exchange including any and all instances of her refusing to comply with requests/demands to leave the room and go to the office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6y...ature=youtu.be

Same video but with slowmo. He grabs her arm to make her stand up. She pulls away. He then tries to control her head (not calling it a headlock because was a pitiful attempt if was his goal or choke because he obviously isn't trying to choke her out.) He grabs her pants leg. She swings at him multiple times as he continues to pull her out. She kicks out and attempts to get loose from him again. While kicking out the desk overturns. He has physical contact with her body during the desk flipping. He is not holding the desk or flipping it. (I think the desk flipping was on both of them, she trying to pull away and him trying to pull her up.) Desk flips and he pulls her out of it and she and he are both directly against the wall. He spins and also spins her. I really don't know if he was intentionally trying to let go or if he just lost his grip.

To be honest I am not sure if she was swinging at him or simply flailing her arm due to being off balance and being tipped over. Its tough to tell. ITs funny the difference in perception. Much of what you see as proactive or aggressive behavior on her part (ie swinging at him and kicking to get free) I see as reactive behavior from being totally off balance from being flipped over. Just pointing out how 2 people can see 2 very different things taking place when observing the very same situation.
Either way the guy is fired and the police chief didnt feel he handled the situation properly and according to protocol.

[Moonjumper]

To be honest I am not sure if she was swinging at him or simply flailing her arm due to being off balance and being tipped over. Its tough to tell. ITs funny the difference in perception. Much of what you see as proactive or aggressive behavior on her part (ie swinging at him and kicking to get free) I see as reactive behavior from being totally off balance from being flipped over. Just pointing out how 2 people can see 2 very different things taking place when observing the very same situation.Either way the guy is fired and the police chief didnt feel he handled the situation properly and according to protocol.

Run into the part in bold daily. Would you agree she pulled away from him when he first had her arm?

Sheriff is a politician. Most if they think will take the heat off of themselves view their deputies as a sacrificial lamb. And many will take it to the point that if a deputy arrests or writes a ticket to the wrong person they will be looking for a job. The principal as well as some of the students in the class have said the deputy was in the right and she was trying to instigate the situation. Either way the whole ordeal is a soup sandwich. Regardless of right or wrong he is out of a job and likely to never get another one anywhere close to there or in the same field. And right or wrong she is likely to get a check for showing her ass because they will figure is cheaper to give her money to shut up than to fight it in court.


Added a link to another opinion on it. http://www.caintv.com/ready-for-the-rest-of-the-stor

[wmaousley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lebczVnFLTU

If this happened to my daughter........................lets just say that fired police officer better call the police and an ambulance if I ever saw him in public because one of us will go to the hospital and the other will go to jail. Most likely that former officer would be taking a dirt nap.

[wmaousley]

She was resisting arrest. This is what happens when you resist (real life). Shit, she barely got scratched. Maybe she'll listen to the officer next time!

Not that officer....He was FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!