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**guitarzan** · 06-21-2018, 03:53 PM

Can e2 cause elevated hr?

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Can e2 cause elevated hr?

You don't say? It drove my BP up to 160/100 last year and was on Test only.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-21-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by hammerheart

You don't say? It drove my BP up to 160/100 last year and was on Test only.

It was a question not a statement. FYI.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-21-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Can e2 cause elevated hr?

Appears to have the opposite effect

Estrogen (which is increased in men who have had heart attacks) is another factor which decreases the heart’s stroke volume, and estrogen is closely associated with the physiology of the free unsaturated fatty acids.”

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Appears to have the opposite effect

Estrogen (which is increased in men who have had heart attacks) is another factor which decreases the heart’s stroke volume, and estrogen is closely associated with the physiology of the free unsaturated fatty acids.”

Ok...

**Mr.BB** · 06-21-2018, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Appears to have the opposite effect

Estrogen (which is increased in men who have had heart attacks) is another factor which decreases the heart’s stroke volume, and estrogen is closely associated with the physiology of the free unsaturated fatty acids.”

If the volume of blood pumped is lower, the hr (heart rate) will increase to compensate.

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

If the volume of blood pumped is lower, the hr (heart rate) will increase to compensate.

The whole sentence was quite of an hyperbole though, rare read even in places like eroids. Men with heart attacks. As far as I reckon. I never had an heart attack.

Guitarzan, you ever had one?

**guitarzan** · 06-21-2018, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by hammerheart

The whole sentence was quite of an hyperbole though, rare read even in places like eroids. Men with heart attacks. As far as I reckon. I never had an heart attack.

Guitarzan, you ever had one?

I have not, but my hr is elevated. I'm still on t3, but a low dose, it keeps my blood sugar from dropping when I eat. Hoping the tren and other aas's have something to do with it, should be out of my system soon

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

I have not, but my hr is elevated. I'm still on t3, but a low dose, it keeps my blood sugar from dropping when I eat. Hoping the tren and other aas's have something to do with it, should be out of my system soon

Honestly I don't know about your situation but I monitor my vitals closely and my resting HR is usually 60-65bpm, hence is definitely not normal for me to read above that, I can also tell from water retention and distribution thereof, how I respond to coffee, etc I'm pretty acquainted my myself and the way I respond to the hormones.

**Mr.BB** · 06-21-2018, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by hammerheart

The whole sentence was quite of an hyperbole though, rare read even in places like eroids. Men with heart attacks. As far as I reckon. I never had an heart attack.

Guitarzan, you ever had one?

Bit confusing to me to. Another question is did the increased estrogen was caused by the heart attacks, or the estrogen was already there promoting the heart attack?

... Am I making any sense? Already took my zolpidem.

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Bit confusing to me to. Another question is did the increased estrogen was caused by the heart attacks, or the estrogen was already there promoting the heart attack?

... Am I making any sense? Already took my zolpidem.

As simply as correlation doesn't imply causation... good night.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-21-2018, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

If the volume of blood pumped is lower, the hr (heart rate) will increase to compensate.

Stroke volume (SV) is the amount of blood pumped out of the heart (left ventricle - to the body) during each contraction measured in mL/beat (millilitres per beat). Therefore cardiac output (Q), the amount of blood leaving the heart each minute, measured in L/minute, can be calculated by multiplying stroke volume by heart rate (Q = SV x HR).

As you can see, the cardiac output (Q) will not increase just by increasing heart rate, since the stroke volume will probably decrease to compensate.

**Mr.BB** · 06-21-2018, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Stroke volume (SV) is the amount of blood pumped out of the heart (left ventricle - to the body) during each contraction measured in mL/beat (millilitres per beat). Therefore cardiac output (Q), the amount of blood leaving the heart each minute, measured in L/minute, can be calculated by multiplying stroke volume by heart rate (Q = SV x HR).

As you can see, the cardiac output (Q) will not increase just by increasing heart rate, since the stroke volume will probably decrease to compensate.

Thats a basic pump formula lol. The question was not Q increasing, it was HR increasing (to compensate Q, to use your own words heheh).

**hammerheart** · 06-21-2018, 04:19 PM

Shoulders are fried, managed some negatives at the cable side raises. Couldn't rack a damn empty bar into position when I was done.

Might of have gone heavier on the DB presses though.

**HoldMyBeer** · 06-22-2018, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by hammerheart

Shoulders are fried, managed some negatives at the cable side raises. Couldn't rack a damn empty bar into position when I was done.

Might of have gone heavier on the DB presses though.

how did you do negatives on lateral raises? I have a hard time finding a way to do negatives for most push exercises

**PeanutbutterDC** · 06-22-2018, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

how did you do negatives on lateral raises? I have a hard time finding a way to do negatives for most push exercises

Do one arm at a time. When working right arm assist on the concentric phase by using your left arm too. I usually grab the cable at the ball where it connects to the hand grip. Hope that makes sense