IFBB pros may think different about drugs

[Obs]

Are you the hillbilly?


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I damn sure aint a redneck

[GearHeaded]

Always nice to hear pros talk about reasonable dosages. The misconception that every single pro is on these unfathomable dosages is so silly.

plenty of guys like Nick talk one way to their social media audience (knowing that 16 year old kids are following) and talk another way behind closed doors.

I would take the 'low doses' talk in this video with a grain of salt, especially considering he knows he is talking directly to kids. ALSO, I've listened to Nick talking to other pros on podcastw and heard him talk about high dosages and him injecting himself up to a dozen times on a daily basis (500mg of gear a week, like he speaks of in this video, could get done with 2 injections easy ,, not a dozen).

Ever seen any of Chad Nicholls protocols, and your know plenty of pros were/are running 5-8ML of gear per day.

Nick here talks about 100mg a week of Primo . ok thats great. but Jordan Peters just talked about his current cycle (a couple months back) running 1000mg of Primo . big difference between two pro bodybuilders both 280+ pounds and one runs 100mg and another 10x that amount.

low dosages are just fine and here to stay . but high dosages have their place as well and plenty of guys run those .. to each their own.

but yeah, you can't blanket statement say "well pros run really high dosages" , and you can't blanket say that "well pros are genetically gifted and only run low dosages" . they are all different just like us

[AR's King Silabolin]

Primo dont raise cholestrol my ass.
Never liked Nick. I think he is so..i dunno.
Some good points there though..

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[MuscleScience]

plenty of guys like Nick talk one way to their social media audience (knowing that 16 year old kids are following) and talk another way behind closed doors.

I would take the 'low doses' talk in this video with a grain of salt, especially considering he knows he is talking directly to kids. ALSO, I've listened to Nick talking to other pros on podcastw and heard him talk about high dosages and him injecting himself up to a dozen times on a daily basis (500mg of gear a week, like he speaks of in this video, could get done with 2 injections easy ,, not a dozen).

Ever seen any of Chad Nicholls protocols, and your know plenty of pros were/are running 5-8ML of gear per day.

Nick here talks about 100mg a week of Primo . ok thats great. but Jordan Peters just talked about his current cycle (a couple months back) running 1000mg of Primo . big difference between two pro bodybuilders both 280+ pounds and one runs 100mg and another 10x that amount.

low dosages are just fine and here to stay . but high dosages have their place as well and plenty of guys run those .. to each their own.

but yeah, you can't blanket statement say "well pros run really high dosages" , and you can't blanket say that "well pros are genetically gifted and only run low dosages" . they are all different just like us

Do you think he is referring to having to run UGL gear at much higher dosages vs pharma gear though? With regards to high dosages.

[Windex]

plenty of guys like Nick talk one way to their social media audience (knowing that 16 year old kids are following) and talk another way behind closed doors.

I would take the 'low doses' talk in this video with a grain of salt, especially considering he knows he is talking directly to kids. ALSO, I've listened to Nick talking to other pros on podcastw and heard him talk about high dosages and him injecting himself up to a dozen times on a daily basis (500mg of gear a week, like he speaks of in this video, could get done with 2 injections easy ,, not a dozen).

Ever seen any of Chad Nicholls protocols, and your know plenty of pros were/are running 5-8ML of gear per day.

Nick here talks about 100mg a week of Primo . ok thats great. but Jordan Peters just talked about his current cycle (a couple months back) running 1000mg of Primo . big difference between two pro bodybuilders both 280+ pounds and one runs 100mg and another 10x that amount.

low dosages are just fine and here to stay . but high dosages have their place as well and plenty of guys run those .. to each their own.

but yeah, you can't blanket statement say "well pros run really high dosages" , and you can't blanket say that "well pros are genetically gifted and only run low dosages" . they are all different just like us

I believe Yates & Efferding when they openly admitted to their largest cycles being 1500mg of gear + HGH

[kelkel]

Canada doesn't offer Nandrolone anymore, trying to finagle my doctor for a script though since pharmacy can still order from USA. Something like $150ish for a 2ml 100mg/mL vial. RIP.

Mine had to be from a compounding pharmacy and it cost $300 for a normal 10 ml vial. Insurance was reimbursing me for awhile then stopped. Obviously get it myself from that point forward...

[GearHeaded]

I believe Yates & Efferding when they openly admitted to their largest cycles being 1500mg of gear + HGH

absolutely . no reason not to believe them .. but I also believe Craig Titus when he was running a full bottle of test per DAY

[GearHeaded]

Do you think he is referring to having to run UGL gear at much higher dosages vs pharma gear though? With regards to high dosages.

the thing is there were guys before Nicks day that would run plenty of high dosages and that was before there was even such a thing as a UGL and all they had was Pharma gear. the idea of running high dosages is nothing new really

[BG]

I damn sure aint a redneck

Binge watched that show, that part feaked me out.

[MuscleScience]

the thing is there were guys before Nicks day that would run plenty of high dosages and that was before there was even such a thing as a UGL and all they had was Pharma gear. the idea of running high dosages is nothing new really

No, I get that. I mean say back in the day 100mg of Primo pharm grade would be equivalent to how many MG’s of the average UGL primo?

[GearHeaded]

No, I get that. I mean say back in the day 100mg of Primo pharm grade would be equivalent to how many MG’s of the average UGL primo?

its so hard to know for sure.. different UGLs may not even be selling real primo to begin with. so when you buy it your not comparing mg per mg of pharma primo to street primo , your comparing pharma primo to some cheap test prop.
or the UGLs are 'skimping' on their raws to make a little go a long way cause its so pricey, or heck maybe somehow they are even cutting it with cheaper product.

all I can say from experience is that I have ran doctor prescribed primo that cost me 350$ per bottle. after I had saved up quite a few bottles of it (its not like a UGL , you can't just buy 5 bottles at once I started running it at 400mg per week , solo with nothing else. and I was impressed.

now I've also ran UGL primo quite a few times as well . but I've never ran it solo. it was always mixed in with a stack of like 2 grams of other gear. The one thing I noticed is staying fairly 'full' in regards in inter-muscular water and glycogen stores. thats one main attribute of primo.

I've got some UGL primo here, maybe what I should do when coming off this current cycle is try running that solo at 400mg and see how I feel.

[Obs]

Binge watched that show, that part feaked me out.

Us too. Got caught up quick. Are they doing another season?

[Narkissos]

On top of that, adding a dht to every cycle is a must, kind of a lost thing, was big years ago, you have to have a good anabolic/androgenic ratio. Thats why Im 100% against "jump starting" a cycle with orals, stupidest thing you could do is drop your ratio once your injectibles are at full strength........add the oral in at week 7-8 when your long ester blood levels just peak.

YUP

Every since ORD and the big raw bust I really never responded to tren like I did 05'-08'.........the raws (ugl's) were never the same, I dont care what anybody says, Ive ran UGL that was out of this world, but G.Bush Jr. crushed that, what people are getting today is garbage.

SO true.

Im trying to find some of the better reads from a few of whom I thought were the smartest guys we had here back in the days, but for now Ill just post their thoughts on best cycles.








Ill try to find where they explained ratio's and importance of a dht when it came to cycling.

MAN... you dug up some gems!!

[Narkissos]

Nark knew what he was doing, he still around the boards anywhere?

*waves*

[BG]

YUP
SO true.
MAN... you dug up some gems!!

Hey brother! Hope all is well! Those were the days, you guys were pioneers, between the bunch of you our cycles were second to none. Appreciate it.

[MuscleScience]

*waves*

Glad your back, I missed how elegant you’re writing style is. Writing is a lost art...