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05-24-2006, 09:02 PM #41
good one
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09-15-2006, 12:01 PM #42
good post.really puts things in perspective for this 19 year old
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10-22-2006, 11:52 AM #43
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10-22-2006, 08:48 PM #44
makes me think if bein 18 was to young when i first started taking roids
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11-01-2006, 02:05 AM #45New Member
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Im same way except im 6'5'' and 260 im 21 and I think im done growimg.I took off working out for a while and i what to start again. any suggestions???
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11-01-2006, 02:07 AM #46New Member
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And I never did a cycle before either
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11-11-2006, 05:31 AM #47
I'm completely done growing and already have level hormone levels. My dad had a heart attack last year and I had to have my blood tested in a full panel. According to the testing my hormone level are considered "average" along with everything else. I have this test and a copy of another test from when I was in the hospital a fews years back.. showing that my levels have dropped so I think I'm done. I don't drink, smoke, or have any prescriptions so I think I'm ready to go back to lifting. At my size I'm unlike anyone in either sides of the family (tallest and largest stature in 2 generations) so I'm pretty much an exception in genetics.
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11-26-2006, 04:24 PM #48
This post has def. delayed my date of entry for the plunge. Great read.
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01-18-2007, 12:47 PM #49
Great post it has made me reconsider, at least untill I can do my own research and see just how much of what he says is true and how much is just speculation...either way he seems to know his shit...but we'll see.
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02-11-2007, 09:44 PM #50
hey devldog, were you 6'2 or 3 when you were 17, before you started cycling?? Just curious... I might delay my first "real" cycle. I am 6' 185lbs and 20yrs old.
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02-12-2007, 06:39 PM #51Senior Member
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Great post!
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02-27-2007, 01:38 PM #52New Member
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thanx
thank you for that info. bt im 16 and i used to be a great athlete and iv been out with injury and i now want to bump my sprinting and upper body can you recomend a steriod that wont be bad for me butn will hav a good effect. thank you
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02-27-2007, 02:05 PM #53Originally Posted by surferdude
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Originally Posted by surferdude
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02-27-2007, 05:07 PM #55New Member
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great post. but not everyone uses sauce for getting swollen. Like myself im 19 an about to take my first cycle for athletic performance. This IMO is from the body building stand point. I know kids that took the stuff when they were 16 and are still 6'2". Not everyone who takes aas use it for body building. I guess thats what im tryin to say....
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06-13-2007, 02:58 AM #56
i know it's old one, but i just had to bump this thread as i think it's a good one
so, ^bump^
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06-13-2007, 11:15 AM #57Junior Member
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I just started test C/Tren (Tren has'nt been added yet) and i'm 20.
But I've also been training for 4 years, seriously for 2.
I got up to 218 at 5'11" and 18%bf
Now dieted down to 195 @14%bf.
The males in my family stop growing at about 5'10" and weigh without training (but are construction workers about 180lbs at 15-18%bf.
So I felt that after things came to a drag for gains after countles diet and training tweaks the only other variable was this.
That is how I made my decision not necessarily how you should make yours.
just some insight.
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06-16-2007, 05:53 PM #58Junior Member
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I have a buddy who started young at about 16 and the thing i notice most is all the males in his family are 6 foot at least and hes still at 5'8 although he is 225 solid and is a starting full back for a college i wont say but his growth has been stunted.
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06-16-2007, 06:05 PM #59
You see children drugs are bad. If you dont believe me just ask your dad. If you dont believe him just ask your mom. She'll tell you how she does em' all the time. -Eminem
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07-08-2007, 10:48 PM #60
great post
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09-12-2007, 09:40 AM #61Associate Member
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Somewhat bias'ed... I think saying that by not working out naturally and using steroids means you will have to work harder is nonsense and unproven. If you were to start steroids and then work out properly, eat properly ect without doing any serious BB before, you would still make the same gains... Yes there are points of diminishing returns, but the less muscle you have the easier it is to put on, therefor, steroids will just bring you those gains quicker than if you did it naturally...
I dont know about waiting till 26, I did my first cycle when I was 20... I think once you stop growing, this whole stunting your potential argument goes out the window. I dont condone 16 year olds juicing, but at some point you have to realise that sensible doses can work quite well, and be minimally harmful or probably even beneficial to your health...
The other point I disagreed on is sex drive, this depends on the cycle you choose, and whether you run AIs/hCG /SERMS during the cycle, but its certainly not unheard of for your sex drive to actually increase...
The last thing is, I was actually sensible, and had blood tests. All my liver/kidney/etc numbers were good, My test levels worked out to around 500ng/dl and this was also part of my decision. One thing you might try to do if your young is take a blood test every couple of months, like 3 times every 3 months and see what your hormone levels are at. If they are sttill increasing, your good to wait...Last edited by pr0digy9daniel; 09-12-2007 at 09:43 AM.
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09-12-2007, 10:11 AM #62Originally Posted by robbrodenberg
Get Dedicated Brother!
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09-12-2007, 10:34 AM #63
im27 and im still growing without aas but i did try them to early in life for me at age 22/23
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09-12-2007, 06:13 PM #64
Ive been reading and researchign for about 5 years. Finally did my first cycle 2 months ago at the age of 25.
Even yesterday i got owned on the boards thinking i knew something and i didnt. Things always change in the world of body building..its a non stop research and learning lifestyle.
You cant just get content with what you know..its something you always have to read.
And yes im glad i waited to start using aas. At 190lb base its much nicer to start from.
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09-13-2007, 11:08 AM #65Senior Member
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Originally Posted by robbrodenberg
I hope your joking!
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11-19-2007, 05:02 PM #66New Member
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Growth Hormone
What About Growth Hormone If You Are Only 18?
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11-19-2007, 05:07 PM #67Originally Posted by craig 333
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11-19-2007, 10:01 PM #68
bro i am going to assume this is not a joke
my diet
4 whole eggs 4 whites and a some kind of carb
pb and j sandwich w/ protein shake
chicken beast cooked w/ olive oil, bannana and small portion of carbs
another half pb and j and protein shake
steak or chicken burrito's w/ green beans
can of tuna
spoon of pb
can of tuna
try something like this if u want to gain some weight
and other thing is i do my own cooking
no fast food
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11-19-2007, 10:04 PM #69
Considering the member you quoted hasn't logged in since 5/8/06 according to his profile, it's doubtful he will read that.
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11-20-2007, 08:48 PM #70Junior Member
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4 cans of tuna aint that much protein or calories,15 times yr bw in pounds,18 if yr a hardgainer split into a 40%protein,40%carbs and 20%GOOD fats and then watch yr bf levels tweaking the carbs to compensate bf levels and particular dieting/bulking goals.when that dont work, its time 4 steroids and by then ul b old enuf after eatin all the same shite for years.kinda glad i didnt do it toooo young,wuda taken the fun outa growin up
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11-20-2007, 09:00 PM #71
I didn't start doin mine until I was 21, besides my parents aren't big people and it was hard growing naturally that goes for muscle and height, yeah I really think I got ripped off out of that whole summer growth spurt thing, maybe when I'm reincarnated I can go back and give it another go round lol. I would say 21 tho to start, besides most clinics won't accept anybody until they're in they're mid 20's at least.
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11-20-2007, 09:13 PM #72
I started when I was 18. im 6' and i was about 160 pound. I train extremely hard:
Day Morning Arvo
Monday Chest + Back calves + abs + wrists
Tuesday Arms + Shoulders legs (quads n hammys)
Wednesday Chest + Back calves + abs + wrists
Thursday Arms + Shoulders legs (quads n hammys)
Friday Chest + Back calves + abs + wrists
Saturday Arms + Shoulders legs (quads n hammys)
Sunday none none
Essentially the Arnold Programme.
Use creatine and protein supplements. No AAS yet.
Currently 22yr, still 6' weigh 205 pounds. Still prolly a few more pounds before i need steroids to kick on.
I noticed you said you dont work out too often. Perhaps try an intense programme like mine, see how u go. best of luck!
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11-20-2007, 11:00 PM #73Junior Member
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Probably the young men using AAS have genetically low level of testosteron ???
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11-21-2007, 12:01 AM #74Anabolic Member
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i disagree with Brandon Walsh saying that levels decline after 26 to almost "non existent" at 40............BS!
I have read studies where men in there 60s are still at 500-600ng/dl
im not sayin there isnt a decrease, but maybe its more of a SHBG increase than a decrease in serum level.
I have 50 year old frind that tested at 425. not high, but not "non existant"
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11-24-2007, 04:38 AM #75Banned
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Christ son.. Stay away from steroids until you're at least 18 or 19. I never started until I was 22. You're barely even out of middle school not because you mentioned your age but the fact that you can't spell to save your own life. Stick to your milk and cookies.
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01-20-2008, 10:52 AM #76New Member
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im 16 and im doing a 6 week cycle of suss250mg a week with 50mg anoplones a day with 300 deca aweek
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great informative post. helped alot with my bro.
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