<b>Pre PCT and PCT</b>

**VWbug66** · 10-28-2007, 09:00 PM

check this out.. its interesting, i wanna get yalls insight on this bc it makes sense and im thinking bout trying it..or maybe one of yall have done this and succedded in it, but neways let me know yalls insight on this.

Different Way to Cycle: Pre PCT and PCT..want feedback, thoughts..

**Merc..** · 10-28-2007, 09:07 PM

ROSS info ....

hahhahha

lol

**VWbug66** · 10-28-2007, 10:51 PM

ah come on merc, thats why im seeking the vets insight on this..for real man is that not good info? or do ya know bout this??

**VWbug66** · 10-28-2007, 10:51 PM

ah come on merc, thats why im seeking the vets insight on this..for real man is that not good info? or do ya know bout this??

**Merc..** · 10-29-2007, 07:46 AM

Ross is the most banned member on ALL the fourms ( i believe).. Alot of people dont think what Ross says is very valid..

I am not talking shit but rather just telling you whats said about him..

**goose** · 10-29-2007, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by marsh67

ah come on merc, thats why im seeking the vets insight on this..for real man is that not good info? or do ya know bout this??

Best thing is go this his own board and ask ross,not sure what it is called.PM swifto on here.He knows.I`m with merc on this.

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 08:50 AM

In theory this sounds good. One thing to note is there is only one study posted there, as there isnt the concrete evidence. There are studies stating Winstrol and Var arnt that suppressive, but there are others stating they are, even at doses of 10mg/ED. So...

I recall Marcus stating he did it and it doesnt work.

Try it and see. If it works, great.

I'm trying it next cycle.

And...Dont take what Ross says as fact, as its often not.

**vitor** · 10-29-2007, 09:00 AM

I am trying a pre-pct right now, which will end 2 weeks from today, I will come back to this thread after that, with my own conclusion...

**goose** · 10-29-2007, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

I am trying a pre-pct right now, which will end 2 weeks from today, I will come back to this thread after that, with my own conclusion...

sweet

**goose** · 10-29-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

I am trying a pre-pct right now, which will end 2 weeks from today, I will come back to this thread after that, with my own conclusion...

I will still bet with you 1000$ that Toremefine Citrate and aromsin with 15iu of slin is better than this...Done this twice this is god,the next level.

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 11:44 AM

My next PCT is Tor and Aromasin . But of Proviron in the mix too and HCG to first 1-2 weeks.

**Merc..** · 10-29-2007, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

My next PCT is Tor and Aromasin. But of Proviron in the mix too and HCG to first 1-2 weeks.

What doses do you use ??

merc.

**vitor** · 10-29-2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

I will still bet with you 1000$ that Toremefine Citrate and aromsin with 15iu of slin is better than this...Done this twice this is god,the next level.

YOUR ON

(j/k)

How do you use/dose the slin, throughout the day?
I would bet 1000 you sneak in GH in the mix aswell..?

**goose** · 10-29-2007, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

YOUR ON

(j/k)

How do you use/dose the slin, throughout the day?
I would bet 1000 you sneak in GH in the mix aswell..?

I`m not a huge fan of slin,its OK at best.I do like it in PCT only,and only use it in PCT.I use it 8 weeks during PCT and post.Helps keeps gains,and this is a time when adding fat with slin is no issue for me.Slin PWO 15iu.HGH

**NOZ** · 10-29-2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by marsh67

check this out.. its interesting, i wanna get yalls insight on this bc it makes sense and im thinking bout trying it..or maybe one of yall have done this and succedded in it, but neways let me know yalls insight on this.

Different Way to Cycle: Pre PCT and PCT..want feedback, thoughts..

Im not convinced!

**VWbug66** · 10-29-2007, 12:47 PM

thanks for all the replies yall!! ay vitor please do come back after u experience n let me know how it went n everything. oh and swifto let me know also.. preciate it guys!

**spywizard** · 10-29-2007, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

ROSS info ....

hahhahha

lol

i started reading that.. and that's the name that popped into my head..

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

What doses do you use ??

merc.

Ny next PCT is:

Days 1-15 HCG 500ius/ED
wk 1-6 Tor 60-120mg/ED
wk 1-6 Aromasin 12.5-25mg/ED
wk 1-6 Proviron 25mg/ED

**Merc..** · 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Ny next PCT is:

Days 1-15 HCG 500ius/ED
wk 1-6 Tor 60-120mg/ED
wk 1-6 Aromasin 12.5-25mg/ED
wk 1-6 Proviron 25mg/ED

Cool ..

Keep us posted on it ...

Merc.

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Cool ..

Keep us posted on it ...

Merc.

Will do. I may through in Clomid 25mg/ED too, but see how I go. From what I've read, Tor is the best SERM out there for HPTA recovery and one of the best for protection against gyno too. Its very active in both departments (if you know what I mean).

**spywizard** · 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Will do. I may through in Clomid 25mg/ED too, but see how I go. From what I've read, Tor is the best SERM out there for HPTA recovery and one of the best for protection against gyno too. Its very active in both departments (if you know what I mean).

I'll have to lay my hands on some then..

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

I'll have to lay my hands on some then..

Whitey has been saying its the best for a while at UKI.

Definitely worth a try.

**Merc..** · 10-29-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Whitey has been saying its the best for a while at UKI.

Definitely worth a try.

Swifto do you remeber we had discussed tore a while back.. We had a discussion if tore effected PgR like nolva did .. Remember ? It was over a year ago I think ..

Anyone use toremifene with tren

Merc.

**Swifto** · 10-29-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Swifto do you remeber we had discussed tore a while back.. We had a discussion if tore effected PgR like nolva did .. Remember ? It was over a year ago I think ..

Anyone use toremifene with tren

Merc.

Just had a look. I recall now.

But back then I hadnt of seen the study I just posted. There is nothing concrete (a study) that states Rolax will increase expression of the PgR.

I think Kratos is right though. It being so similar structurely may mean it does too.

I dont think anyone has a difinitive answer here.

Again...Like the other thread. Try it and see.