Milkthistle and Deca

**lpaulgib** · 12-04-2007, 09:59 AM

Hey, I've been reading on this forum for information for a while, but finally needed to ask a question.

My good friend is an old juicer and got me a bottle of Deca for me to do my first cycle with. I've been researching the stuff for a good while now, but I haven't been able to find a couple of answers on stuff I am wondering.

First off, I'm not stacking it with anything else. He's wanted me to do half cc injections twice a week for the first 2 weeks and then 1 cc injections a week for weeks 3 through 6. Then for weeks 7 and 8 he said to do half cc injections twice a week. I've been reading a lot and most people it doesn't seem like the correct dosage that most resources say.

Also, he said I didn't need an anti-estrogen on my first cycle. He's saying all I need is milk thistle. And on workout days to take no-explode. Since I don't plan on stacking steroids , my understanding is that I need something that naturally produces testosterone , similar to Test. Could someone help me out here.

I guess I'm wondering what the ****. I'm trying to figure out from another source what supplements I need to take with my cycle. I haven't been able to really understand the Education beginners guide too well. All help is greatly appreciated. I don't want to **** my body up.

**buffgator** · 12-04-2007, 10:01 AM

wow your friend has absolutley no clue what he is talking about, and you caould get really messed up if you follow his advice!
oh by the way welcome to ar.

**canadian meat** · 12-04-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by lpaulgib

Hey, I've been reading on this forum for information for a while, but finally needed to ask a question.

My good friend is an old juicer and got me a bottle of Deca for me to do my first cycle with. I've been researching the stuff for a good while now, but I haven't been able to find a couple of answers on stuff I am wondering.

First off, I'm not stacking it with anything else. He's wanted me to do half cc injections twice a week for the first 2 weeks and then 1 cc injections a week for weeks 3 through 6. Then for weeks 7 and 8 he said to do half cc injections twice a week. I've been reading a lot and most people it doesn't seem like the correct dosage that most resources say.

Also, he said I didn't need an anti-estrogen on my first cycle. He's saying all I need is milk thistle. And on workout days to take no-explode. Since I don't plan on stacking steroids , my understanding is that I need something that naturally produces testosterone , similar to Test. Could someone help me out here.

I guess I'm wondering what the ****. I'm trying to figure out from another source what supplements I need to take with my cycle. I haven't been able to really understand the Education beginners guide too well. All help is greatly appreciated. I don't want to **** my body up.

Deca with no test

Like buff said your friend knows fuk all,What are you gonna do when your dick stops working ask your friend what to do next???Its your life your cycle do some reasearch dude.

**Johny-too-small** · 12-04-2007, 10:18 AM

Never listen to your foolish "friend" again.

Deca alone = deca dick (you dont want it, unless you hate sex)...
Milk Thistle is for liver support. As far as I know Deca isnt known to be liver toxic. So, I dont know whats up with this one either? You would use Milk Thistle if you are running a lot of oral steroids .

Deca is a 19nor steroid and will shut you down hard. There is no supplements that can help you avoid this. You must use test to stack w/ it. However, a very small % of users can get away with deca only, but why would you ever risk it? It not only effects your dick but your overall mood and quality of life. Not a prudent risk.

Also, ramping your dose up/down is again, not prudent. This will lead to increased sides from unstable blood levels. In addition, 8 weeks is not long enough for deca. You should run it a min. of 10 weeks.

So, my friend, everything you know and have been told will put you in harms way. Id start by telling your buddy to piss off and slow down what your about to do. Make sure you understand everything that youre about to administer into your body.

Last, and most importantly, do you know what pct is? This is just as important as your cycle, if not more.

Good luck, start reading and then ask away.

**magic32** · 12-04-2007, 10:41 AM

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**longhorn814** · 12-04-2007, 10:46 AM

just b/c your friend is an old juicer doesnt mean he knows how to do it correctly and safely!! First off before anything, what are your stats? height, weight, age, etc? What is your diet look like and what are your goals?

**crawdaddy** · 12-04-2007, 03:24 PM

Bro its your first post, no worries. But the bros are right. If you listen to your friend you'll get f'd up and no one wants to see that. Do some reading, I still don't know sh@#. Start here http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234
Just my .02

**ladygarn** · 12-04-2007, 04:18 PM

only orals have real negative effects on the liver.

**Johny-too-small** · 12-04-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by ladygarn

only orals have real negative effects on the liver.

Not true. Tren and injectable winny for example have a negitive affect on liver enzymes.

**lpaulgib** · 12-05-2007, 04:48 AM

Yeah, the main reason I asked was because I thought what he was telling me seemed ****ed up after what I had learned during my research on this stuff. I don't have a good means of being able to get Test. I asked all my connections and they can't get a hold of it right now. Is there an alternative to using test that might help some? I'm not too worried about deca -dick as I'm going to Iraq soon so I won't be around too many women for the next couple of months. If the shit makes you depressed by itself that might be a problem. Also, should I be taking anything other than protein and a multivitamin? What about that no-xplode? Is that safe to take while on deca?

Oh, I'm 6'2, 185 lbs, and I'm not sure what my body fat is, but it's low. I've got a visible 6 pack and I'm at the gym and running daily. My diet isn't really counting calories, but it is monitored by me and I'm taking about 1g of protein per lb of body weight a day and tons of calories.

Anyhow, I appreciate the help. I want to make sure I know what I'm doing before I start this so you guys are a great help to me