D-bol Bridge

[duramaxedge]

Ok guys... I want your opinion here.. I have purchased some Dbol (injectible form)... I am close to coming off my cycle.. Say Mid January.. so im thinking of shooting this Dbol till the end of the cycle.. then trying this Bridging technique I read on another form (google search).. Read this and see what you guys think.. Pros/Cons.. I would be doing the 10mg of Dbol in the AM to try to get my natty test levels back up..


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I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol .

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.

Hope that clears the air.

[VWbug66]

interesting, good to know dude

[duramaxedge]

thanks, so here are the questions I have.. is this adequate PCT, should someone still run Clomid? etc. any other thoughts guys?? TaiBoxa??

[VWbug66]

id like to see a few of the vets comments on this

[BOOST]

I would like to know also, I am thinking of doing a bridge with Var.

[Big]

In my opinion, even at 10mg/day, you are in effect slowing the rate at which you are returning to normal. I would rather return to normal as fast as possible and then cycle again, I believe the returns over time would be greater. Bear in mind I have never tried this so I could be way off, it's just my 2 cents.

[duramaxedge]

keep in mind, in the post it says the effects of the Dbol are camoflouged by the Test Spike in the AM.. thats why its only effective if you do the Dbol in the am?... By the way the post reads.. seems like it would work..

No convinving Ima******ger??

[Big]

keep in mind, in the post it says the effects of the Dbol are camoflouged by the Test Spike in the AM.. thats why its only effective if you do the Dbol in the am?... By the way the post reads.. seems like it would work..

No convinving Ima******ger??

I wouldn't say that it wouldn't work, just that I wouldn't try it.

[duramaxedge]

I C.. well.. Im cool with playing Guinea Pig haha

[Big]

I C.. well.. Im cool with playing Guinea Pig haha

Let us know how it goes, could be well worth it.

[duramaxedge]

Ok, so heres the question that I have.. when I take my last shot of Tren A and Prop.. should I start into the Dbol .. Or Start Clomid and run the PCT then run Dbol .... or.. Start Clomid and Dbol??

[gixxerboy1]

My friend did a dbol bridge. Same thing 10mgs first thnig in the morning. He did it during the pct too. He liked it and said he would do it again. Not sure if that helps you at all

[mx3]

why not run some hcg during the last two wks after youve done your last shot on a long ester test and then start the bridge after that, so that way some sort of pct was accomplished and you never got off anabolics. It might get you closer to normal levels. this is just an idea I have never attempted this.

[mx3]

My friend did a dbol bridge. Same thing 10mgs first thnig in the morning. He did it during the pct too. He liked it and said he would do it again. Not sure if that helps you at all

thats interesting. why not just bridge during pct and continue till next cycle? thoughts?

[gixxerboy1]

thats interesting. why not just bridge during pct and continue till next cycle? thoughts?

That's what my friend did. Started the dbol with the pct and continued the dbol till he did his next cycle

[reppedout1]

That's what my friend did. Started the dbol with the pct and continued the dbol till he did his next cycle

how long did he wait to run his next cycle?.....repped

[Big]

why not run some hcg during the last two wks after youve done your last shot on a long ester test and then start the bridge after that, so that way some sort of pct was accomplished and you never got off anabolics. It might get you closer to normal levels. this is just an idea I have never attempted this.

hcg is suppressive and on it's own could not be considered as pct, it reverses testicular atrophy, but does nothing to restore natural test levels.

[mx3]

I just thought hcg and nolva might give you a head start even if only for a couple wks before starting the dbol .

[Dizz28]

I have heard this 10mgs/morning theory from more than one credible sources. Never tried it though. Seems to make sence, I guess. But it's just a thoery and I have never acually seen hard evidence that 10mgs/am would not suppress to any extent. Might be worth a try.

[VWbug66]

id like to try it out, but i dont bridge..ive been running 2 cycles a year n will keep it like that so..but the theory does sound supporting id like to hear of who does try it

[jch3131]

Intersting, If you try it let us know how it plays out.

[duramaxedge]

I will be trying this.. I think I have found some Dbol for this.. so we should be good to go.. Ill keep everyone informed.. My main focus is to see if any of this works:

a. Obviously keeping gains better
b. Return to natural test production easier/quicker
c. See if 10mg will help keep strength gains during workouts ( I always feel like shit after a narly cycle)
d. See if it works..

[SkinnY&HungrY150]

might as well save ur ass from getting stuck 4 no reason at all.

A. Keeping gains better? 10mgs/day nadda, maybe if u inject a flea it might.
B. Return faster? Wile still being on, let alone a useless dose? nadda Playa
C. Nope, just be a waste strength would be the same as if u were in a correct pct
d. Go ahead!

[duramaxedge]

im going to be running Clomid PCT...

[SkinnY&HungrY150]

Only clomid?

ANy AI's?

[duramaxedge]

im running letro.. Im on Tren A and Prop so i dont wanna use Nolva

[SkinnY&HungrY150]

im running letro.. Im on Tren A and Prop so i dont wanna use Nolva

Ok, my bad spelling and gangsta persona aside....

How long was the tren /prop cycle? how longs ur bridge to ur next cycle?

Your bridging correct? Then why are you running a PCT? As you know a bridge is a way of coasting between cycles and never coming off. So why a pct in the first place?

I'm currently doing somthing similiar. Just got off a long Test + other goodies cycle. Right now I am currently running nolva and 200mgs of dbol / day. Getting ready to jump on GH. So/dbol/gh bridge. Not even wasting my time running a pct if im going to bridge let alone jump right back on. Rollercoaster for my hormones is what dat shizzle does.

If your worried about keeping gains while recovering from ur cycle you should go with some sort of growth factor not aas/dbol. Does'nt work like that.

+ Clomid is'nt very effective compared to AI's.

[auslifta]

i think you can use nolva in pct with 19nor compounds just not during

[mx3]

^correct

[duramaxedge]

well I have some Nolva.. I just didnt wanna make gyno worse

[Big]

i think you can use nolva in pct with 19nor compounds just not during

yup^

[Dukkit]

now what if you used the D-bol with Priviron for the bridge? pluses and minuses to that??

[duramaxedge]

From what I read.. Id like to have some Proviron to run as well..

[reconforce4]

sounds very interesting, i have a friend who bridges with var or dbol

[XNathan]

I run d-bol 2times in PCT in morning small dose from 10mg tapered to 1,25mg after 6wks. Keep all my gains from that cycle and experienced zero libido problems. For me best PCT ever

Dont doing it recently, just from liver issues becouse I run allways orals in my cycle and run 8wks 17aa and than +4-6wks more... I think thats to much.

[Machin3]

10mgs is will hardly if not at all supress you..Im in pharmacy school i learned quiet a bit about certain anabolics id like to see some studies but i have heard this before ...I also know people who have followed a slightly different protocol in terms of dosage and had great results.....

[duramaxedge]

Skinny and Hungry 150.. you said your taking 200mgs of Dbol a day? jebus..

Im doing a 10wk cycle of Tren A and Prop.. I want to run my pct of clomid and nolva.. along with the Dbol bridge to coast for maybe 12 wks so I can start my next cycle..

More Tren hehe.. God I love this shit

[Big]

I am currently running nolva and 200mgs of dbol / day.

Damn bro, why on Earth would you think 200mg/day dbol is a good dosage?

[Lexed]

prob looks like a water ballon

[YupYup]

I wouldn't want to try on myself. It seems to me that when you are PCTing you are really trying all you can to have your normal test levels increase. Playing guessing games with when your test levels are about to spike and when your body won't have to compensate for the increase doesn't seem much of a science. Although it does sound very interesting...

My verdict? People should try this and report back =)