Ephedrine

[rokipoki]

Yesterday i tried ephedrine @25mg's . this is what happened :
I tried 25mg's of E , 270mg's of C and 100mg's of A and i felt nothing. Should i just straight ahead boost it up to 50mg's ?

I don't have fake stuff, it's real 100%

My stats : 6'2"
220lbs
13% bf ( around here +-2% )

Tnx,
R.

[rlslmshdy]

U might want to try increasing your aspririn to at least 325mgs.

[rokipoki]

i actualy already tried 50mg's E, 270mg C and 100mg's A , and i got nothing, except a little heat waves, so do u guys think that if i up my Aspirine, that i will feel it more ? I'm really feeling kinda weirded out, that my buddy took 25mg's of Ephedrine, no caffeine, no aspirine and got hyper and what not, and for me 50mg's did almost nothing :| . heh, i'm a machine obviously

So what are you'r suggestions?

Tnx,
R.

[oneshot]

U might want to try increasing your aspririn to at least 325mgs.

thats quite a bit of aspirin. go for it but i wouldnt think it would make that significant of a difference. sure the stuff is real?

[rokipoki]

yep, like i said i'm 100% sure it's not fake.

[TranscriptionFactor]

different people have different tolerances to the adrenergic agonist activity of Ephedrine. If you normally take a lot of caffeine and have a high tolerance for it that could be the issue. I would try taking Benadryl 50mg every night for 2 weeks as it can help replenish your receptors.
I don't think the extra aspirin will make a difference and is more risk than its worth.
Perhaps try a little more caffeine.

[Markosterone]

friend of mine running 50mg also didnt feel to much, but when training they felt it more..

[luxur]

its 1 of E for 10 of C so for 25mg ephedrine you need to take 250mg of caffeine, and baby aspirine does the trick nicely IMO.

[JiGGaMaN]

Since i happen to like answering this sort of stuff i will grace you with a magical response: 25mg is a good starting dosage, you arent necessarily going to feel it physically, as in 'ohmygod im so jacked whats going on', its more of a small 'heat wave' as an above poster said. You will notice if you take it in conjunction with caffeine you will be more prone to get shakes etc. If you get really intense on the cardio you will notice an irregular heartbeat more often than not. I would not recommend anything over 50mg.

[JiGGaMaN]

Also, another thing you will look for is improved breathing capacity. Just like our related friends pseudoephedrine (sudafed) and desoxyephedrine (methaphetamine) they are great at improving your breathing (bronchiodilation).

[rokipoki]

yeah jiggaman i actualy did see that , because i ran 2.5 kilomiters, and actualy didn't get all that puffy, like i used to, so it actualy did the job, that i took it for today ( to make me breathe easier, while running ) so i'l have to put 1:0 on the Ephedrines side on that.

[JiGGaMaN]

yeah jiggaman i actualy did see that , because i ran 2.5 kilomiters, and actualy didn't get all that puffy, like i used to, so it actualy did the job, that i took it for today ( to make me breathe easier, while running ) so i'l have to put 1:0 on the Ephedrines side on that.

Word. I have expert powers when it comes to this sort of stuff. Just dont overdo it as ephedrine is not heart friendly. Anyone who has done higher doses of it will know what im talking about. I think thats the main caveat to it as well. I recommend limiting yourself to speed-walking while on any stimulant or B2-adrenergic agonists. It seems to limit the irregular heartbeat that I experience.

[Phate]

Word. I have expert powers when it comes to this sort of stuff. Just dont overdo it as ephedrine is not heart friendly. Anyone who has done higher doses of it will know what im talking about. I think thats the main caveat to it as well. I recommend limiting yourself to speed-walking while on any stimulant or B2-adrenergic agonists. It seems to limit the irregular heartbeat that I experience.

i'm with ya on that one, i can't run while on clen or my heartrate goes insane, i just walk at a high incline

[rokipoki]

well, that might be a problem, because i'm actualy going to take it for a test similar to the 2 mile army run, so i will have to do 2.4 kilomiters in about 10 mins or less , so i will have to do some fast running (today i did it in 10:30 ) so i actualy need to speed it up a little
When the test is done, i'm not using it anymore

[JiGGaMaN]

well you probably wont die, but keep it in mind for future reference not to do that. I have a friend in the army who claimed they had someone die with ephedrine in their system from heart attack.

[rokipoki]

yeah, but that is usualy conditioned on previous health records ( heart problems ) and so on and so on, which i do not have, plus i just had my heart checked, and it turned out great. So i'll have to take my chances

[magic32]

As alluded to by Jigga, not everyone feels everything in the same way. However, Eph especially in the stack (which is proportioned properly in yours) does have some very definitive physiological characteristics of which warmness is one. Here's the kicker, not all Eph blends have the same types of the chemical/herb (Ma Huang), nor are they all standardized to the same percentages. For example, in college we made our own stacks from Dymetadrine (Eph), later once the supplement companies produced it, I got similar effects from Diet & Ripped Fuel, Hydroxycut, Thermbuterol, etc. But with single product, Xenadrine, I simply didn't heat up. The peripheral effects were all present, but not the warming sensation.

In other words, the product is just as effective so please reduce your dosage back to safely recommended 25-30mgs per serving and continue to observe the 100mgs per 24hr period, but you might want to try another blend/manufacturer. PM me if you need some reliable Eph website resources.

Be safe!!!

[rokipoki]

As alluded to by Jigga, not everyone feels everything in the same way. However, Eph especially in the stack (which is proportioned properly in yours) does have some very definitive physiological characteristics of which warmness is one. Here's the kicker, not all Eph blends have the same types of the chemical/herb (Ma Huang), nor are they all standardized to the same percentages. For example, in college we made our own stacks from Dymetadrine (Eph), later once the supplement companies produced it, I got similar effects from Diet & Ripped Fuel, Hydroxycut, Thermbuterol, etc. But with single product, Xenadrine, I simply didn't heat up. The peripheral effects were all present, but not the warming sensation.

In other words, the product is just as effective so please reduce your dosage back to safely recommended 25-30mgs per serving and continue to observe the 100mgs per 24hr period, but you might want to try another blend/manufacturer. PM me if you need some reliable Eph website resources.

Be safe!!!

i'm actualy not using it now, but i will take it again on friday ( 50mg's E , 270mg's C and 100mg's A ) .
Are you saying, that i should take less than 50mg's of E for my test ? i really need the help, and 50mg's seemed to do the trick for me. It will only be one more time, do you think that it is really all that dangerous ?

Tnx,
R.

[MercyDog]

Aspirin is to thin the blood, don't go beyond 325 as its liver toxic. Ephedrine seems to start reversing its effects at 100mg., the caffine can be jacked very high however. Work your way up, also it works much better on an empty stomach

[rokipoki]

how can aspirine be liver toxic beyond 325mg's if they produce aspirine 500mg pills ?

[MercyDog]

how can aspirine be liver toxic beyond 325mg's if they produce aspirine 500mg pills ?

toxic was a bad choice of words, but aspirin generally is not healthy unless needed for heart conditions. Ask any doctor or read any pill description. Although it may not kill you its better not to take aspirin unless medically needed.

[MercyDog]

I think its very acidic is the reason but could be wrong. It can have many side affects like eating a whole in your stomach

Oh yea the don't go beyond 325 part was due to thats plenty enough for a eca stack as more will not make better results

[jtrance9]

good advice

[rokipoki]

oh ok, but what do you guys think on me taking 50mg's for the 2 mile run again ? safe or ris k ?

[MercyDog]

As far as dying goes my dumb butt took over 40 25's years ago, and I'm still here but At around 100mg. it seems to reverse its "energy" effects. 50mg. should be no prob. but I'd test the waters before actually competing

[PT]

good advice

next time you break our rules and post a website you'll be banned from here and the other board you posted

[TranscriptionFactor]

Aspirin is not liver toxic although it is predominantly metabolized in the liver to a form which can be excreted. Its main adverse effect is GI bleeding, but an overdose can cause various metabolic disturbances and has a mortality rate of about 2%. An overdose of aspirin acutely occurs somewhere above the 150mg per kilogram level (for a 70kg person that is about 30 tablets). Early symptoms are nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, dizziness and tinnitus (ringing in the ears). Treatment is activated charcoal in the ER.

There is a rare, idiosyncratic reaction called Reye's syndrome which occurs in the pediatric population which is associated with Aspirin and does involve liver injury. This is why aspirin is usually not given to anyone under 18.

I am appalled at the number of misinformed posts of people saying this or that is liver toxic when in fact it is not the case. If your taking a medicine, especially not prescribed, it is your responsibility to read up on its dosage, adverse effects, contraindications and so on.

[JiGGaMaN]

I think its very acidic is the reason but could be wrong. It can have many side affects like eating a whole in your stomach

Oh yea the don't go beyond 325 part was due to thats plenty enough for a eca stack as more will not make better results

That is a very stupid response. Liver damage occurs in the 7,000-10,000mg range. Up to several grams is safe as once, but not on a daily basis.

[MercyDog]

I suffered from chronic pain for 7 months and took bettween 6-10 325's everyday I was advised by several different doctors from several different fields not to take aspirin, take tyl or Ib instead as aspirin was not healthy. The only point I was really trying to make was that the ratio in an eca stack does not need to be treated equally with each part. If someone is going to take 75mgs. of ephedrine twice a day I'm simply saying its not a good idea to take or required to take 325x3x2=1950mgs. of aspirin everyday. Actually I think that the little 50mgs. work in a eca stack. Not trying to be dysfunctional and sorry if I offended anyone but my advice is still the same the less aspirin you can get away with the better.

[rokipoki]

well yeah, i actualy tried 50mg's on sunday, and got good feedback( i really had alot more air when i was running ) so i will take 50mg's again on wednesday( i said friday before, that was a mistake ) when the test will happen. I think that 50mg's won't really kill me

[JiGGaMaN]

I suffered from chronic pain for 7 months and took bettween 6-10 325's everyday I was advised by several different doctors from several different fields not to take aspirin, take tyl or Ib instead as aspirin was not healthy. The only point I was really trying to make was that the ratio in an eca stack does not need to be treated equally with each part. If someone is going to take 75mgs. of ephedrine twice a day I'm simply saying its not a good idea to take or required to take 325x3x2=1950mgs. of aspirin everyday. Actually I think that the little 50mgs. work in a eca stack. Not trying to be dysfunctional and sorry if I offended anyone but my advice is still the same the less aspirin you can get away with the better.

I think i just misread what you were saying. I thought you were trying to say beyond 325mg a day is bad for you. I agree much more with this response: the less aspirin the better.

Also, mercydog: They sell Tylenol with codeine over the counter.