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    Cool Primobolan / Winstrol

    Hi,

    This is my cycle:

    Winstrol Primobolan
    1st week: 50 mg 300 mg
    2nd week: 50 mg 400 mg
    3rd week: 50 mg 500 mg
    4th week: 50 mg 500 mg
    5th week: 50 mg 400 mg
    6th week: 50 mg 300 mg

    I am not sure how to do my PCT, what to take, when and for how long.
    Also can you help tell me about this cycle, I am not looking for huge gains...
    Age 28
    Years working out: 8
    Weight: 200
    Height: 6'1"


    Please help!!
    Thanks.

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    Much better place to educate you bro.

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    Brasileiro?

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    Sim im do Brasil.

    Voce fala Portugues?

    Lets keep this conversation to one thread.

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    sou brasileiro tb.
    what do u think about this cycle?

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    Bem vindo meu amigo!

    I think its a horrible cycle my brother.

    You havent been researching much have you?

    What are your stats?

    age
    height
    weight
    bf%
    diet summary/# meals per day
    years lifting / workout split
    cycle experience
    pct/estrogen control knowledge
    goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

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    Cool

    age 28
    height 6'1"
    weight 200
    bf% 15
    diet summary/# meals per day 4
    years lifting / workout split 8 years / 6 X week
    cycle experience begg/interm.
    pct/estrogen control knowledge begg.
    goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) more cutting but size is also welcome

    Thanks!!!!

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    Normally im a bit meaner to new guys who dont research, but since youre my conterraneo, ill be nice!

    Test Beginner Cycle Guide
    Test beginner cycle info

    WARMachine's thread on Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    "Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"

    Drummerboys PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control
    PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

    Diet Help
    Diet help

    Diet Section
    http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

    Choosing Diets
    http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

    Steroid Profiles
    http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

    This is about everything you will need to run a successful cycle and PCT.

    Please take some time to read these threads and perfect your diet before cycling.

    You will benefit in the long run my friend.

    If you have any questions while you are researching, feel free to ask me. Im here to help!

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    Wink

    Valeu mesmo cara!
    Since you are helping me, can you tell me whats wrong with thi cycle?
    Thanks again!!!

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    Well the main problem with this cycle is that it doesnt contain Testosterone .

    Test is the base for ANY good cycle. As when you use other compounds, they shut down your natural Test levels.

    Thus requiring artifical Test to be taken. Not to mention, as you will read in the Test beginner thread, that you should begin your first cycle with one compound to see how your body will take to the drug.

    This way if there is a problem, it can be narrowed down to one specific compound.

    After you read, come back to this thread and post a new cycle with PCT and ill see how much youve learned.

    If you still have problems, ill be glad to help you.

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    Cool

    thanks again!
    Last edited by marcmoran; 04-16-2009 at 08:30 PM.

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    Cool

    What is the best Test?

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    Nao ha melhor teste meu irmao.

    A testosterona e testosterona. A unica diferenca e o ester nele.

    Leia atraves de links, e entao voltar para mim, mal te ajudar, mas nao as pessoas para pedir fontes, eles truque voce.

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    I appreciate the help!
    Last edited by marcmoran; 04-16-2009 at 08:31 PM.

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    Sua contra as regras deste Conselho, mas posso te orientar na direccao certa.

    No problem buddy.

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    Cool

    if I add 250 mg of test. per week to that cycle I mentioned before, what do you think?

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    I think that you should drop the Primo.

    Its not that great a compound anyway.

    Adding the Winny at the end of the cycle would benefit.

    Youre on the right track. Keep researching bro!

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    the reason why I decided to use Primo and Winny is side effects, like gyno.
    Do u think that if I take this test. 250mg week, i might get gyno?

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    Its doubtful.

    The higher your BF% the higher your risk. There are other factors, but that is the main one.

    Read my sticky.

    WARMachine's thread on Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    "Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"

    It will explain how to prevent gyno.

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    Good. To get my test at normal level after cycle is done, what do u do?

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    Run a proper PCT.

    Again bro, read the links i posted for you.

    They will explain everything in detail.

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    Thanks bro!
    Last edited by marcmoran; 04-16-2009 at 08:31 PM.

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    Eu disse que vai ajudá-lo.

    Im tentando educar o seu primeiro amigo. Você precisa aprender essas coisas antes de usar AAS.

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    Thanks!
    I am thinking about:

    drop the Primo use the Test instead

    Add the Winny at the end of the cycle.

    PCT as mentioned on the link!!!

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    Write it out for me in this format.

    EXAMPLE

    Test - ?mgs - Weeks?
    Winny - ?mgs - Weeks?

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    test. 500 mg week 1-10
    winny 250 week 6-10

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    What Test are you planning to run?

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    Testosterone Propionate 250

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    Ok you do know that Prop and Winny must be injected Everyday right?

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    i thought test was 2 X a week... and winny everyday

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    Lol see this is what i mean bro.

    You need to research more.

    Different esters require different injection schedules.

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    sorry man... thanks again.
    i can do everyday no problem, i need to use separate syringes, one is oils base and the other water right?
    Last edited by marcmoran; 04-16-2009 at 08:32 PM.

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    No you can use the same syringe.

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    ok, good.

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    youre a great helper
    Last edited by marcmoran; 04-16-2009 at 08:33 PM.

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    thats all
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