Bunk Gear..... Switch up & Start over?

[jackjackson]

I have been on Test e 500mg for almost 4 weeks, 4 weeks monday.
If I do not start noticing any changes at week 5 should I use a differnet brand of Test E which I have.

My source that Im using now, I trusted and even posted the gear here and got good feedback.
If at the end of week 5 should I change to my other Test E brand and consider that week 1?

Not sure how the gear was made or if it is even underdosed.


Not sure just looking for some advice.

Thanks

[Mafiusu]

patience

[jackjackson]

I have patience, just planning ahead in case of.
I have heard from 1 Other that the gear I got is not that good, but then again that person is sort of queer.

[garbageman18]

im a week further then you into my test e cycle and still waiting. Some people dont feel the effects til week 7, patience,patience, patience.

[jackjackson]

im a week further then you into my test e cycle and still waiting. Some people dont feel the effects til week 7, patience,patience, patience.

Good to know, I thought it was always weeks 4-5.

[JinNtonic]

EDIT my bad.

[jackjackson]

EDITED I WILL PM YOU. Should be well know
I just saw another post almost regarding the same thing.

[JinNtonic]

Is it a no no to ask who makes it? If so I will edit my last post.

[jackjackson]

Yes
No lab names posting

[jackjackson]

8. There is to be no nameing of UGL labs, this includes the initials of those labs. This is for the protection of both the labs and the board.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

[Lightsout2184]

yeah this some people dont feel it until week 7 is bs. by the end of week 5 u should feel something. im not saying 100 percent kicked in but u should notice changes. i would switch to that other brand u have after 5 weeks and see how that goes. bunk gear sucks good luck

[alpmaster]

You should at least be horny as hell by week 3..

[doctorclaus]

My experience with test E..... i think a long ester like that really blows.... too long...
i switched to sust on week 6 i felt gains through out...now that im on sust i feel so much more anabolic ... quicker strenght gains and over all i even feel more fat being blocked.
I would switch it up to sustanon if i was you but im just speaking about my personal experience

[jackjackson]

no sus on hand, i have prop, deca , dbol
If i start over do i consider the week i change brands week 1 or week 6?

or take 2-4 weeks off and pct then start?

[hankdiesel]

If the gear is fake that when you start the legit stuff it would be week one. How many cycles have you done? How quickly has your test kicked in before?

[davidboy]

I would upper the dose if I were you, most likely gear you using is under dosed, and again its really hard to tell, I am on my end of fourth week and I am just starting to feel, dont forget diet plays big role!

[jackjackson]

Diet here

Test E Bulk Cycle Diet
This Is my first cycle.
Ahh this sucks

[jackjackson]

When I started my morning weight was 183 (after going piss and what not)
4 weeks today it is 196.2 (after going piss and what not)

[jackjackson]

Also going to try and get some blood work done today

[jackjackson]

UPDATE!!!!
Just got back from the doc and they said it is Cellulitis

What is cellulitis?

Cellulitis is a skin infection caused by bacteria. Normally, your skin helps protect you from infection. But if you have a cut, sore, or insect bite, bacteria can get into the skin and spread to deeper tissues. If it is not treated with antibiotics, the infection can spread to the blood or lymph nodes. This can be deadly.
Some people can get cellulitis without having a break in the skin. These include older adults and people who have diabetes or a weak immune system. These people are also more likely to develop dangerous problems from cellulitis. And they are more likely to get cellulitis again.
What causes cellulitis?

Cellulitis is caused by bacteria (usually strep or staph). Some people are at risk for infection by other types of bacteria. They include people with weak immune systems and those who handle fish, meat, poultry, or soil without using gloves.
What are the symptoms?

At first, the infected area will be warm, red, swollen, and tender. As the infection spreads, you may have a fever, chills, and swollen glands.
Cellulitis can occur anywhere on the body. In adults, it often occurs on the legs, face, or arms. In children, it is most common on the face or around the anus. An infection on the face could lead to a dangerous eye infection.
See a doctor right away if you have an infected area of skin and:

• The infected area is getting redder, more painful, or larger, or it has red streaks extending from it.
• You have a fever or chills.
• The infected area is on your face or your groin.

How do you get cellulitis?

There are many ways to get cellulitis. You can get it if you have:

• An injury to your skin, such as a cut, surgical wound, burn, or animal or insect bite.
• Skin problems, such as ulcers, eczema, psoriasis, or a fungal infection like athlete's foot.
• Certain medical conditions. These include diabetes, peripheral arterial disease, or a weak immune system.
• Fluid buildup (edema) in the legs or arms.
• Had liposuction to remove excess fat.
• Injected illegal drugs under your skin.

How is it treated?

Doctors use antibiotics to treat cellulitis. If the infection is mild, you may be able to take antibiotic pills at home. If the infection is severe, you may need to be treated in the hospital with antibiotics that go right into your bloodstream.
If your doctor prescribes antibiotics, it is important to take them as directed. Do not stop taking them just because you feel better. You need to take the full course of antibiotics.
It is very important to get treatment right away for cellulitis. If it is not treated, the bacteria can spread quickly through the body and cause sepsis, an extreme response by the body’s defense system. This can be deadly. Cellulitis on the face can spread to the brain and cause a dangerous infection (meningitis). Cellulitis can also cause other serious problems, such as blood clots in the legs (thrombophlebitis).
You are more likely to have these problems if you are an older adult, have a medical condition such as diabetes or peripheral arterial disease, or have a weak immune system. Your chances of the cellulitis coming back may be higher too.
How can you prevent cellulitis?

If you are at risk for cellulitis, you can take steps to help prevent it.

• Take good care of your skin. Keep it clean, and use lotion to prevent drying and cracking.
• Check your feet and legs often. This is especially important if you have diabetes.
• Treat any skin infection, such as athlete’s foot, right away.
• Ask your doctor if you need to take antibiotics on a regular basis to prevent cellulitis.
• If your doctor prescribes medicine, take it just the way your doctor says to.

I got 2 antibiotics and also am doing an ultra sound soon to rule out an abscess or blood clout.
I also got total and free test measured, was going to get LDL and HDL but needed to fast, cant fast when i east every 3 hours.

anyways they said its the luck of the draw, I explained how i do my injection everytime and I asked why this spot and not the others.
Also showed them my ass bruise and they ok'ed it saying it was what I said it was, just bruised now.
I told them I read up on how an abcess can grow and that is what scared me.
they did say ibprofen and benedryl helps
I told them I take benedryl nightly 50mg.
Let my lesson help anyone else on this forum because I have seen this in a few posts when I did search to find some info
I was very honest and made sure we had a patient/doctor confidentiality agreement before divulging what I did.
They tried saying why and the normal DOC stuff.
I will keep everyone updated after the ultra sound, I will also get my test results back thursday to find if the current gear im on is bunk!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

what is bunk gear usually? i know its fake gear but what kind of liquid is used instead? regular oil?

[jackjackson]

For all I know I might as well go lube my door knob or bicycle chain
At least im not dead.
I may send this in to maybe even get analyzed since its useless

[HIITB$]

For all I know I might as well go lube my door knob or bicycle chain
At least im not dead.
I may send this in to maybe even get analyzed since its useless

Wait for the test mayne, could find out your test is sky high man at least hopefully....the cellulitis or whatever it is could happen from anything man. It's pretty common actually but good you caught it!

[mult1pass]

I did some reading on this subject because I ran into the same problem from an online company a few months ago. ended up not taking any chance went to the ER and had them open the abscess and debris it. I followed the same protocol as i always have done but still man i think it was "bunk".

Oil based stuff should be clean because of A. the oil is hard for shit to grow in it and B. the BA in the solution is a strong antiseptic. Be wary of water based shit right now

[jackjackson]

Just did my other delt monday and now it is sore and warm.
Guess its the infection overall

[jackjackson]

My other sites before are fine.
Actually none of this shit started until I started hitting my delts now that i think about it.......
I normally hit the glutes, and they were fine, I really did not pay much attention because it did not bother me the way the delts do.
I pretty much just finished the first vial.
It was only the last 2 shots that this shit started.
I think the gear is bunk But I will find out in 2 days before my next night shot.
If it is I will take a few weeks off and cut up a little.
then start my new test

[HIITB$]

Just did my other delt monday and now it is sore and warm.
Guess its the infection overall

My other sites before are fine.
Actually none of this shit started until I started hitting my delts now that i think about it.......
I normally hit the glutes, and they were fine, I really did not pay much attention because it did not bother me the way the delts do.
I pretty much just finished the first vial.
It was only the last 2 shots that this shit started.
I think the gear is bunk But I will find out in 2 days before my next night shot.
If it is I will take a few weeks off and cut up a little.
then start my new test

Hey again man im no Doc but im just telling this to maybe ease your mind or just because it sounds so familiar but....i had the same thing happen to me. Glutes fine...right delt...redness went into my bicep and warm to the point whne i flexed it felt tight (no post workout) and then left delt close to the same but not as pink or warm feeling. Never had it happen in the glutes but got pain in the quads. I waited it out and never went to the Doc so i cant be sure what it was but i think (broscience) it was more "reaction" then it was the gear being bad. Just my body didnt completely agree with what i was putting in there. Both went away in under a week and i hae since pinned there with less problem, no medicines or anything. Now ive heard it could be the way it was made (most certainly in my eyes) and if it's EO based a lot of people have a problem with it and then the grade of EO they used comes into play as well.
Anyways thought id share and Thursday you'll know soon enough anyhow so im looking forward to hearing the results. G-luck man and until the results id keep acting and working out like you would anyother time!

[jackjackson]

Good to hear that.
The weird thing is out of all the shots most of them were smooth, very smooth except for one or 2 where it hurt at the end of the injection, not to bad.
I've read that normally Test E has a bit of pain and also could be due to the BA content.
So far its been really no pain has me wondering weather its real.
Time Will tell though.
I choice not to do quads because of all the nerves and I can see my veins in my legs as well, too much to hit.

Weird shit man, will post info, hopefully will get my ultrasound done today, not sure If i can get the results today but Im hoping I wont have to go under the knife.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yea when i start my cycle later this month, I plan on only hitting my glutes

[c-Z]

Glutes FTW. Give it time bro. 4-5 weeks may not be enough time for it to kick in. everyone is different.

[jackjackson]

My bloodwork shall be the final answer here today or tomorrow.

[jackjackson]

Bloodwork

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