first cylce want to make sure iam on right track

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:31 PM

iam 28 been training hard naturally for 5 years. iam 200 pounds 10% bodyfat.looking to bulk up.this is my first cycle

Week1: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week2: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week3: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week4: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week5-12: 500mg Test E
Week15-18: Clomid - 100/50/50/50, Nolva - 40/20/20/20

calories
3393
protain
324g
carbs
382g
fats
45g

diet link :help with diet for cycle

any help would be great guys

**Western Man** · 08-28-2009, 05:33 PM

Most would say that the d-bol is superfluous on your first cycle.

***D7M*** · 08-28-2009, 05:34 PM

how tall are you?

that's waay too short of a cycle for a long estered test. Minimum I'd run that is 10-12 weeks.

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

how tall are you?

that's waay too short of a cycle for a long estered test. Minimum I'd run that is 10-12 weeks.

He is running it 12 weeks - he just layed it out strangely.

How tall are you OP?

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

how tall are you?

that's waay too short of a cycle for a long estered test. Minimum I'd run that is 10-12 weeks.

iam 6.0ft

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-28-2009, 05:36 PM

i think that will be a very sick first cycle. looks good man. glad to see someone who does a lot of research first once and a while. cheers.

**jason bourne** · 08-28-2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Western Man

Most would say that the d-bol is superfluous on your first cycle.

i would agree to disagree.....Test beginner cycle info

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:37 PM

Also - your fats seem a little low for a bulking cycle - I always recommend a 40pro/40carb/20fat ratio.

**Matt** · 08-28-2009, 05:37 PM

He is 6'2 and i agree with D7M

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:39 PM

Most would say that the d-bol is superfluous on your first cycle.

Seriously? You couldn't just say "Dbol isn't necessary"... You had to say superfluous ? You could always have come out of the closet by just saying 'I'm gay'.

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:39 PM

His cycle IS 12 weeks - readddd.

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Also - your fats seem a little low for a bulking cycle - I always recommend a 40pro/40carb/20fat ratio.

yeah i know i need to bump it up . maybe some more nuts and some good fats from salmon etc.also think i munch on the old almonds during the day

**jason bourne** · 08-28-2009, 05:39 PM

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***D7M*** · 08-28-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

He is running it 12 weeks - he just layed it out strangely.

good eye, Jut.

OP, cycle looks good to me.

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-28-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Seriously? You couldn't just say "Dbol isn't necessary"... You had to say superfluous ? You could always have come out of the closet by just saying 'I'm gay'.

lol.

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

yeah i know i need to bump it up . maybe some more nuts and some good fats from salmon etc.also think i munch on the old almonds during the day

Good to go - IMO Flaxseed is really good fats. Personally I prefer it over Fish Oil - good luck though.. Cycle looks fine to me.

Do you have any AI?

**Matt** · 08-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

yeah i know i need to bump it up . maybe some more nuts and some good fats from salmon etc.also think i munch on the old almonds during the day

I would go and see a doctor lol, since you made this thread you have shrunk 2 inches...

first cycle need help to make sure i on the right path

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Good to go - IMO Flaxseed is really good fats. Personally I prefer it over Fish Oil - good luck though.. Cycle looks fine to me.

Do you have any AI?

i dont have any ai what do u recommend i have on hand

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by 007

I would go and see a doctor lol, since you made this thread you have shrunk 2 inches...

first cycle need help to make sure i on the right path

haha iam 6.2

***D7M*** · 08-28-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Good to go - IMO Flaxseed is really good fats. Personally I prefer it over Fish Oil - good luck though.. Cycle looks fine to me.

fyi...fish oil is a much superior fat source for body builders....

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by 007

I would go and see a doctor lol, since you made this thread you have shrunk 2 inches...

first cycle need help to make sure i on the right path

LOL. Wow... I can't believe I didn't remember... With all these new people coming in I guess I just overlooked it.

Well... he's persistent. Haha.

Adex - but I also recommend holding off on this cycle as you've been lying to us so we cannot give accurate advice.

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

fyi...fish oil is a much superior fat source for body builders....

I've heard that by so many people... Jamy, Nark, everyone. Maybe it's a mental thing but I agree to disagree in regards to myself

**Matt** · 08-28-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

LOL. Wow... I can't believe I didn't remember... With all these new people coming in I guess I just overlooked it.

Well... he's persistent. Haha.

Adex - but I also recommend holding off on this cycle as you've been lying to us so we cannot give accurate advice.

Its ok lol, ive just got this habit of checking peoples public profiles and reading through their previous posts...

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

LOL. Wow... I can't believe I didn't remember... With all these new people coming in I guess I just overlooked it.

Well... he's persistent. Haha.

Adex - but I also recommend holding off on this cycle as you've been lying to us so we cannot give accurate advice.

holding off cause i was lying i think that unfair but ok cheers for the help u gave up to this point

***D7M*** · 08-28-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

I've heard that by so many people... Jamy, Nark, everyone. Maybe it's a mental thing but I agree to disagree in regards to myself

That's cool.

maybe your body can somehow make flax oil convert better to EPA/DHA than everyone else

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

holding off cause i was lying i think that unfair but ok cheers for the help u gave up to this point

Unfair? I'm not paid to be here and neither are the others.. We're here to help for free - you lying is only going to hurt yourself... Does it affect me if you **** your body's future up from using a cycle when you shouldn't? fvckkkkk no

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

That's cool.

maybe your body can somehow make flax oil convert better to EPA/DHA than everyone else

Maybe. I always did think God loved me a little bit more... hmmmm

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Unfair? I'm not paid to be here and neither are the others.. We're here to help for free - you lying is only going to hurt yourself... Does it affect me if you **** your body's future up from using a cycle when you shouldn't? fvckkkkk no

i just said 6ft as a ball pack .iam sorry i didnt say 6.2 ft. my weight is different cause i measured everything so i could give the correctdetails. dont get me wrong all advice help has been most appricated. and the speed of answers amazing. thanks for the help guys

***D7M*** · 08-28-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Maybe. I always did think God loved me a little bit more... hmmmm

I was being sarcastic. lol.

But God does love you more.

He loves all Marines more than anyone else. duh.

**TITANIUM** · 08-28-2009, 06:00 PM

I would run the test for the 12 wks.

I wouldn't run the D-bol first cycle.

Save it for the next one.

A-dex is an exceptional AI.

But for the cycle you are running(- the d-bol), you could run tamo if needed.

Having a good AI on hand is never a bad idea.

See how your body response to AAS ant PCT.

Keep it simple the first time around.

Best

Titanium

**Juturna** · 08-28-2009, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

I was being sarcastic. lol.

But God does love you more.

He loves all Marines more than anyone else. duh.

Haha so was I buddy - but yes, I think Einstein proves that in one of his theories.

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-28-2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

I would run the test for the 12 wks.

I wouldn't run the D-bol first cycle.

Save it for the next one.

A-dex is an exceptional AI.

But for the cycle you are running(- the d-bol), you could run tamo if needed.

Having a good AI on hand is never a bad idea.

See how your body response to AAS ant PCT.

Keep it simple the first time around.

Best

Titanium

thanks for the help titanium

**sigman roid** · 08-29-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by 007

He is 6'2 and i agree with D7M

Whats Wrong with his cycle or i have i missed something?He's running test e for 12 weeks looks good to me

**Matt** · 08-29-2009, 04:14 AM

Nothing is wrong, its a good beginers cycle, however he has no ai which i think is important to have on hand for every cycle and i was a little cocerned that he was shrinking...

**sizerp** · 08-29-2009, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Western Man

Most would say that the d-bol is superfluous on your first cycle.

You're avatar pisses me off.

**sigman roid** · 08-29-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by 007

Nothing is wrong, its a good beginers cycle, however he has no ai which i think is important to have on hand for every cycle and i was a little cocerned that he was shrinking...

He might want gyno...lol

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-29-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

He might want gyno...lol

yeah not really dont think tits would look good on me

ai has been purchased and researched thanks for the tips

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-29-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by 007

Nothing is wrong, its a good beginers cycle, however he has no ai which i think is important to have on hand for every cycle and i was a little cocerned that he was shrinking...

thanks for the help got ai this morning